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That's SF, fifty square miles. It makes up 0.03% of California. The only poo I might step in around here is from bear, or deer. And to be fair, bear poo probably looks a lot like hobo poo to the uninformed, so I can see how it would be confusing. We don't even have typical homeless people out here. The only "homeless" people we have are a few crusty old dudes that gold pan and camp. And they don't ask for anything except maybe a ride into town if you happen to be driving by.
Totally agree on everything else. The policies trying to hug the crime out of people, simply does not work. It sucks that people have lost the ability to see any nuance. Either you must want to throw them in the wood chipper, or give them a hug and an iphone. I don't want either of those things, and apparently that's just too complex these days.
Def still taking a risk. Enclosed trailers are easy to steal from. Less if a risk than just having them in the truck bed. But best bet would be to stay where you can bring them in with you.
Exactly.
This thread is all up in the feelings. Way too much for me bro.
Go lift some weights you soft sonofabitches!
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Do you actually not see the irony in what you're saying?
Gee, in all that sanctimony, you still didn't answer any of the questions I posed, instead you just chose to be an asshole. In your quest to be "right" and point out my fallacies you seem to completely missed the point of my post.
I do not argue with any of the points you've made.
What I was working at is why does the culture of our country so clearly value property over people. Not the medical industry, but our society. Because let's be real, if we as a society gave a fuck about the inherent value of people, there are so many avenues we're going about it wrong. Once "society" starts truly caring about the most at-risk populace, people get up in arms about socialism and communism, as if helping others will remove their agency.
You and I seem to be in agreement, that if you value life, you must also value their quality of life and stealing from another is to ignore all of that.
Get off your high horse talking about embarrassing. If you really gave a shit you'd be offering solutions instead of focusing on my lack of "philosophical reasoning."
Hug a criminal today folks.... everything gonna be all right.
Kum-bay-ya.....kum-bay-ya......
Given what you’ve just said, I’ve reread your post in a more charitable light and yes, I think I did miss your point. I apologize. I feel rather stupid but also pleased that you’re not actually arguing that life isn’t valuable.
Well I certainly value my hard earned property far more than some criminal low life who tries to steal it.
Speaking of social characteristics; This is what we as a society need more of....
A tip of that hat to both of you for showing everyone how to converse and debate properly.
I gotta wonder what the “people over property” folks will do when some dirtbag walks into their pits at the races and starts pushing one of their bikes away. Any answer other than “help yourself mr bike thief” is counter to the “people over property” thinking. Where do they draw the line? Is stealing their catalytic converter ok? Food? Bikes, cars, mortgage theft? Does insurance make theft ok, because it makes your loss into everyone’s loss?
I gotta think that virtually everyone will defend their property, pretty thoroughly, anytime possible.
Theft is pretty close to an absolute. If it’s not yours, you don’t take it. This is a requirement to live in a civilized world. If you want to give things away to make yourself feel better, do it. A lot of people need help, and a lot of us can afford to give it. But tolerance of theft isn’t charity.
You come across like an arrogant a-hole. I will offer no apology.
He’s actually one of the nicest guys on the forum.
Now, go brush your teeth with a sledgehammer.
Sooner of later you're gonna steal something from someone who isn't playing around....just saying..and I love to hear about it when they steal or fuck with the wrong guy....
How about a national televized execution once a week. Enough of the BS masked singer or america has talent. If it stopped one murder it would be worth it in my opinion.
Bingo, some dont care, kinda like the criminals.dont care. Oh well.
Ha, it's okay. Most people outside of CA don't know places like Nevada County exist, and that's the way I like it! People think the whole state is like LA, SF and San Diego (which it is, population-wise, but not geographically). Only 5 percent of Californians live in rural areas, compared to a national average of 19 percent.
Some interesting back and forth here.
Most people work hard for what the have, homes, vehicles exc. It feels personal when those things are messed with.
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As it should, shdbt even be back and forth. Thieves are pos and. Should get what they deserve. .
Back on topic and on this POS father.
I often wonder what is in these folks heads, like what is their future plan exactly? So he’s trying to make little Johnny, poor kid, a motocross star. At what point in the process was his plan to write the wrong with the birth certificate and the kids real age? No matter where or when it was going to go South for the kid and his “career”. Sad to see so many folks whose elevator doesn’t get off the ground floor…
I’ve had shit stolen and it’s a terrible feeling and hope this guy gets whatever is dealt, now and into the future.
Feel for the kid more than anything. His dad went from hero to Zero in one fell swoop. Embarrassing!
Well his post came across like an arrogant a-hole. I don’t know him from Adam but I definitely stand by my opinion.
also I’m going to pass on the teeth and sledgehammer. Weird comment.
He planned to pull out the right birth certificate when is kid is ready for the vet classes 😂
High Springs or Alachua are safer than Gainesville. But like we did in the old days, our bikes went in the room too. I'll be at that same race in January as well but live near High Springs. Sadly not much is safe anymore with weak laws.
Finally some logic.
It’s a simple concept. Don’t steal and keep your hands. Actions have consequences.
Looks like he’s got two counts of Grand larceny and two counts of modifying numbers (scratched vins, probably) all of which are felonies.
If vehicles were stolen in OK and transported over state lines as it sounds, he may get federal charges if the US attorney feels so inclined.
Personally, I would like to see thieves in a chain gang, dressed in orange overalls with THEIF written in big bold black letters on the front and back of said overalls.
Let them work in a chain gang cleaning pavements, public parks, parking lots etc...they need to give back to the law-abiding public...
Everyone will be able to see what their crime was.
A very polite public indeed. Laws like that are probably what Africa needs. Our thieves, burglars and armed robbers in Africa are draconian if you are unlucky enough to walk in on them whilst they are in your house.
My friend's dad was shot dead, his mother was repeatedly rapped and sodomised during a home invasion/robbery.
These guys are sitting in prison at our, the tax payers expense. That's fucking bullshit in my books.
According to this article he's already had a federal conviction. I wonder what for...
"he has out-of-state criminal convictions spanning 2000 to 2023 and a federal conviction from 2018"
https://alachuachronicle.com/south-dakota-man-charged-with-stealing-e-b…
Sounds like a solid dude!
Bike thieves in the pits dont deserve hands cutoff by the government. How impersonal. A hefty beatdown by some motodads is more appropriate.
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