Deegan bike claimed? Everyone, please stop now

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Haven’t read the whole thread and don’t plan to but after reading about possibly building another bike for the next moto if one gets claimed, it raises the question of could one race up to 3 different bikes/VINs at LL’s in one class during the week? Just curious, had never thought about it. That could save a mechanic a lot of work.,.

Sorry for the long run-on sentence/question.
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Listen Deegan is legit and the real deal. Props to the family for raising great kids.
If you were in his class this year and had an opportunity and cash to claim this bike I would. Considering what this could do in this sport you could have a piece of history. Then probably sell it back to him after hopefully a hall of fame career in 15-20 years. I wish him and the rest of the field great careers.
The hate this family gets is just silly. The amount of eyes they bring to the sport with their family YouTube page is special and that’s Hailee included. It’s like when Connor Mcgregor fights, it’s better for the sport cause more eye balls. Let’s appreciate these guys.

Anyone know how much the numbers jumped for viewing during his motos on the stream?
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FastEddy 8/6/2022 2:28pm
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88FYNN88 wrote:
First time I have ever heard of this rule so, if someone puts a “Claim” on a bike a racer has to sell that person the...
First time I have ever heard of this rule so, if someone puts a “Claim” on a bike a racer has to sell that person the bike for 2X MSRP?
This happened in 2003 at LL's.



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https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Mike-alessi-and-the-claiming-rule-back-in-his-mini-days,1344242?exclusive_forum_user=false&page=1

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Alessi-03-Claimed-Super-Mini-FOUND,997443?exclusive_forum_user=false&page=1

https://racerxonline.com/2021/07/28/30-stories-from-the-ranch-mike-alessis-last-supermini

https://www.flickr.com/photos/34396295@N07/sets/72157624520834062/with/4801283563/


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olds cool wrote:
Haven’t read the whole thread and don’t plan to but after reading about possibly building another bike for the next moto if one gets claimed, it...
Haven’t read the whole thread and don’t plan to but after reading about possibly building another bike for the next moto if one gets claimed, it raises the question of could one race up to 3 different bikes/VINs at LL’s in one class during the week? Just curious, had never thought about it. That could save a mechanic a lot of work.,.

Sorry for the long run-on sentence/question.
Nope. The Chassis cannot be changed and has to be the same VIN that is qualified with at regionals. Motors can be swapped and anything else but the frame must be the same.
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olds cool wrote:
Haven’t read the whole thread and don’t plan to but after reading about possibly building another bike for the next moto if one gets claimed, it...
Haven’t read the whole thread and don’t plan to but after reading about possibly building another bike for the next moto if one gets claimed, it raises the question of could one race up to 3 different bikes/VINs at LL’s in one class during the week? Just curious, had never thought about it. That could save a mechanic a lot of work.,.

Sorry for the long run-on sentence/question.
drivrswntd wrote:
Nope. The Chassis cannot be changed and has to be the same VIN that is qualified with at regionals. Motors can be swapped and anything else...
Nope. The Chassis cannot be changed and has to be the same VIN that is qualified with at regionals. Motors can be swapped and anything else but the frame must be the same.
Does not have to be same bike as Regionals.

Once at LL same frame has to be run in all 3 motos.
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mb60 wrote:
Hell I'm more curious about him turning pro and racing Iron Man.
Is he turning pro or doing another moto combine?
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drivrswntd wrote:
Nope. The Chassis cannot be changed and has to be the same VIN that is qualified with at regionals. Motors can be swapped and anything else...
Nope. The Chassis cannot be changed and has to be the same VIN that is qualified with at regionals. Motors can be swapped and anything else but the frame must be the same.
It is always so interesting to me that people jump into a thread and post complete nonsense and inaccurate information when it is obvious they don't know what they are talking about.
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The kid is fast..he got (3)1st a 2nd and DNF that wasnt his fault. Thats impressive. Just watch his style and lines, he is on a good team ya but he deserves it.
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/6/2022 3:40pm
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DonM wrote:
Jesus you people jumping to conclusions is insane!! why the F would someone pay for a claim if they suspected cheating when they could protest for...
Jesus you people jumping to conclusions is insane!! why the F would someone pay for a claim if they suspected cheating when they could protest for a fraction of the money and get their money back if there was something illegal...maybe they just wanted the bike because to build one just like it themselves would cost more that the $17k....as BobbyM would say....unfuckingbelievable.....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to...
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment.

If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to keep it so nobody could see it.

DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
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inthebadboycorner 8/6/2022 3:53pm
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tek14 wrote:
Lame. But why it was retracted.. did Star pay to guy who made claim?
sebastianer wrote:
Sound like shit to me, why the hell didnt the guy that claimd it keep it ? the big dogs can always pay there way out...
Sound like shit to me, why the hell didnt the guy that claimd it keep it ? the big dogs can always pay there way out of it.
dingo wrote:
Exactly. “Claim was retracted” AKA Star paid them
So what is the true value of the bike?
I'm sure the engine must be superb. Let alone nice pieces in the suspension.
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to...
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment.

If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to keep it so nobody could see it.

DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
You keep assuming that Star has done something illegal or has something in the motor that is unobtanium…We don’t know that is was claimed or retracted or anything…Bomerslang says the bike wasn’t claimed and he would know…the conclusions that you and many are jumping to on this is ridiculous….more than likely there is nothing to see here as it’s nothing but rumors.
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FastEddy 8/6/2022 4:04pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."

How much was paid?
Who exactly from Star handed money to who?
Anyone...anyone...anyone know?
This thread is very confusing and there's a lot of bullshit in it.
Just trying to clear things up in a simple manner with actual facts and names and numbers. Smile

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bite_the_curb 8/6/2022 4:14pm
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hate to derail this thread but mike alessis super mini bikes were rumored to be making 30+ hp

dont think a hotrod 250f is as special as a super modified 85/105 but it would def be a good piece of history for a serious moto fan
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aeffertz 8/6/2022 4:17pm
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FastEddy wrote:
[i]"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."[/i] How much was paid? Who exactly from Star handed money to who? Anyone...anyone...anyone...
"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."

How much was paid?
Who exactly from Star handed money to who?
Anyone...anyone...anyone know?
This thread is very confusing and there's a lot of bullshit in it.
Just trying to clear things up in a simple manner with actual facts and names and numbers. Smile

One person in this thread just assumed that Star paid off the person that claimed the bike since the claim was later retracted and now everyone is claiming that to be factual.
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
FastEddy wrote:
[i]"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."[/i] How much was paid? Who exactly from Star handed money to who? Anyone...anyone...anyone...
"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."

How much was paid?
Who exactly from Star handed money to who?
Anyone...anyone...anyone know?
This thread is very confusing and there's a lot of bullshit in it.
Just trying to clear things up in a simple manner with actual facts and names and numbers. Smile

Go back and read from the beginning…it started as a rumor and and snowballed…it’s actually quite funny to re-read it and how assumptions became quick facts….
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DerickYZ wrote:
Deegans getting DQ’d from events, cutting the track at LL years ago. But hey, just “BuY ThE MeRcH BrO”
Cygrace74 wrote:
People also haven’t mentioned the moto his wheel blew out, he got off the track and cut half of it to beeline to the mechanics area...
People also haven’t mentioned the moto his wheel blew out, he got off the track and cut half of it to beeline to the mechanics area, then pointed at his bike and pulled back on from the mechanics area. If the wheel had lasted he would of finished the moto after cutting multiple lanes of the track.
did he gain any places from that? no.
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MxKing809 8/6/2022 4:22pm
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FastEddy wrote:
Is there actually anyone on here that can indeed confirm that the #38 bike was claimed and by who?
Boomslang wrote:
The bike wasnt claimed.
Did someone not attempt to claim it? did it not get heated? Did law enforcement need to get involved? How is this not out there yet if people had to be pulled into private conversations to cool the situation down?

Where was his bike held over night?
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FastEddy 8/6/2022 4:26pm
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DonM wrote:
Go back and read from the beginning…it started as a rumor and and snowballed…it’s actually quite funny to re-read it and how assumptions became quick facts….
I read through it.
Only 1 reliable fact by Boomslang that it wasn't claimed.
The rest is fantasy at this point.





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FastEddy 8/6/2022 4:30pm
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aeffertz wrote:
One person in this thread just assumed that Star paid off the person that claimed the bike since the claim was later retracted and now everyone...
One person in this thread just assumed that Star paid off the person that claimed the bike since the claim was later retracted and now everyone is claiming that to be factual.
Everybody loves a good conspiracy. Laughing
Probably a great thread for the dumbgeon.

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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to...
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment.

If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to keep it so nobody could see it.

DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
idiot.
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DerickYZ wrote:
Deegans getting DQ’d from events, cutting the track at LL years ago. But hey, just “BuY ThE MeRcH BrO”
Cygrace74 wrote:
People also haven’t mentioned the moto his wheel blew out, he got off the track and cut half of it to beeline to the mechanics area...
People also haven’t mentioned the moto his wheel blew out, he got off the track and cut half of it to beeline to the mechanics area, then pointed at his bike and pulled back on from the mechanics area. If the wheel had lasted he would of finished the moto after cutting multiple lanes of the track.
yota wrote:
did he gain any places from that? no.
That guy is in every Deegan thread making the same claims…dude has some serious hate Deegan complex problems…
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DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
DonM wrote:
You keep assuming that Star has done something illegal or has something in the motor that is unobtanium…We don’t know that is was claimed or retracted...
You keep assuming that Star has done something illegal or has something in the motor that is unobtanium…We don’t know that is was claimed or retracted or anything…Bomerslang says the bike wasn’t claimed and he would know…the conclusions that you and many are jumping to on this is ridiculous….more than likely there is nothing to see here as it’s nothing but rumors.
I agree with 100% what you have been saying. They might wanted to buy it to copy the engine specs ? So much goes into the Star, PC, Honda, KTM etc with Dyno, testing mods etc. Porting, cams, valve seats, springs etc etc. You can gain allot from just that.

Average Joe blow would be able to afford that. If you rode Yamaha you could get that spec copied. And learn where they gain the performance from.

Would have nothing to do with Cheating..
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/6/2022 5:30pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
FastEddy wrote:
[i]"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."[/i] How much was paid? Who exactly from Star handed money to who? Anyone...anyone...anyone...
"Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off.."

How much was paid?
Who exactly from Star handed money to who?
Anyone...anyone...anyone know?
This thread is very confusing and there's a lot of bullshit in it.
Just trying to clear things up in a simple manner with actual facts and names and numbers. Smile

Rewind yourself to my very first post in this thread- what was the first word I used?? “IF”

“IF”.
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/6/2022 5:32pm
8/6/2022 5:32pm
DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
DonM wrote:
You keep assuming that Star has done something illegal or has something in the motor that is unobtanium…We don’t know that is was claimed or retracted...
You keep assuming that Star has done something illegal or has something in the motor that is unobtanium…We don’t know that is was claimed or retracted or anything…Bomerslang says the bike wasn’t claimed and he would know…the conclusions that you and many are jumping to on this is ridiculous….more than likely there is nothing to see here as it’s nothing but rumors.
Show me where I’m assuming Star has done something illegal?! I haven’t said that once.

I have laid down two viable reasons why Star wanted to keep the bike. But not made a single assumption they’ve done something illegal.
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Thisusernameisavailable 8/6/2022 5:36pm
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DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
yota wrote:
idiot.
This probably goes down as your greatest contribution to the forum. Keep offering leading content- you may get a badge.
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That’s it! I seen enough in the thread!

I CLAIM Deggan’s bike is indeed, a star racing motorcycle!!
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This thread is grade AA vitard. Good stuff guys
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to...
I think you’ve misunderstood my comment.

If I’m jumping to ANY conclusion, it’s that the motor IS very special and that’s why Star were desperate to keep it so nobody could see it.

DonM wrote:
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is...
Probably has more to do with the financial investment into that bike is greater than the claim...you did use the term illegal which if it was/is a protest is what you do not a claim....
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it. We know the bike was...
I understand perfectly the difference between a claim and a protest. I don’t understand why you think I DONT understand it.

We know the bike was CLAIMED.
It was claimed because someone wants to look inside it.

Star didn’t want to let it go, so they alledgedly paid them off..
WHY did they pay them off??
Was it because the motor is very special?
Or was it because the motor illegal?
Only the guys at Star know.

This isn’t about the claimant’s motivation, it’s about Star’s motivation.
If you want to look inside an engine you PROTEST the bike and it gets torn down.

If you want to own the bike you CLAIM the bike and if you are the winning claimant you take the bike home with you.

They are two very different and distinct processes.
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peltier626 8/6/2022 6:01pm
8/6/2022 6:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/6/2022 6:02pm
No, I claim it. It is mine! And if I can't have it I shall protest!
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