New FIM World Supercross Championship

Cool now we can watch overseas riders switch between Mx/sx twice a year. I really do hope they succeed but until their top guys show up it will be cool off season racing. I do hope they have a good tv package for us in here in Merica We still have the prestige of having the world vets!

Here’s how I see it. An Oceania SX championship with 2-3 races in Europe starting mid-late September. They gotta get in bed with Paris & Geneva, the only 2 places size-wise worth going, since they’ve organized a race for decades. Those races would be interested getting that type of series because it’ll come with a decent rider line up. They’ll never fill a football (soccer) stadium in Europe without top SX riders racing in the US. I don’t see the #1 riders of US team going (teams have to preserve their investments for AMA SX) but it could be a fun series even with second tier factory guys and regular SX “bounty hunter” and with US sized tracks with US track builders. Let’s hope it doesn’t turn out like the SX World Championship I won. I’m kinda ashamed to say I’m a world champ haha

And I’ll add one more thing… Brayton World Champ, stamp it… 😂

They going to Pasadena again?

can't wait for the slew of cancellations.

If you’re not a factory guy, and your schedule isn’t dictated to you, and- you think you can make (more) money racing internationally, you’re traveling. Let’s face it, since it would be more expensive for the Americans to compete overseas, start money and lucrative potential purses, are crucial.

That's the first thing that crossed my mind, lol...

You gotta have big balls to invest so much with the current situation of shutdowns and all that going on

Quick Internet research provides a selected view of enclosed stadiums (outside the U.S) with a capacity of greater than 50,000 spectators : Jakarta, Indonesia, Wales U.K, Amsterdam, Düsseldorf Germany, Toronto & Montreal Canada, Petersburg Russia, Warsaw Poland, Vancouver, Tokyo, Singapore, Frankfurt, Germany, Melbourne Australia….

Gotta wonder why you'd book a 50000+ stadium with all the top level guys racing another championship...

Last sx event we had before covid did alright

I think the AMA Supercross being there to set the standard will hurt the world championships allure. Also, what Dirt Wurx does week in and week out is insane, I really don’t see the FIM series doing any of this on a Supercross scale without major growing pains. Building these tracks is one thing, but doing it right inside a week to week series is not just for any good track builder, unless they go the very basic route, no whoops etc.

Hope they are successful though, more off season race the better.

Anybody who knows of these guys and their organisational skills, as demonstrated by their resume, will be looking forward to seeing what they produce.
Be prepared to be impressed.

That's a thing of beauty right there.

If the riders got paid F-1 salaries, they would jump ship in a minute. Hamilton makes 60,000,000 million $ a year.
https://salarysport.com/motorsport/formula-1/lewis-hamilton/

The US open of Supercross won in court that the name "Supercross" was not owned by the the AMA Supercross series or promotors and that is how they were able to use it for the US open. When they were putting the race together someone tried to stop them from use the name "Supercross" so the courts set a precedent for any future lawsuits. This is when PACE had the series, here are some of the quotes from the racer x story.


"Todd Jendro: Riding off the popularity and the coattails of supercross, it surely didn’t meet the definition of a modern-day supercross. It was more of an arenacross at the time. So there was a little bit of angst there about the use or the term. Of course, through time and the definition, it is a bit public domain where the use of supercross can be used, but it certainly didn’t meet the definition, really, what supercross was at the time.

Charlie Mancuso (President, Pace Motorsports): In that time period, we couldn’t really be pissed off about them using the name supercross because we had already established that the name supercross by itself is a generic term. We were always aware and concerned about our competition, and welcomed it, but we took it seriously. I wouldn’t say we were pissed off. I don’t remember being pissed off.The AMA had a definition of supercross, and that’s what we all lived by for all these years. We had to protect it, so I went after Eric. I sued him for a dollar."
GARY BECKER
Gary Becker: But [Eric] was calling it supercross, and supercross has a distinct definition, and his event did not meet that definition. By that time, in ’98, I’ve been doing it three years, and at the time we just invested millions of dollars into our track and the way we do business and everything we’re doing and things are great. Then Eric comes in and calls it U.S. Open of Supercross [laughs].Eric Peronnard: Once again, my wife and I, we’re on the bubble of naiveness. We know Roy Janson is not happy and Mancuso and those guys, but whatever. We’re doing our job. We don’t feel like we’ve stepped on anybody. The AMA gave us a supercross sanction!

Gary Becker: I don’t doubt that Eric had that sanction, but the AMA had a definition of supercross, and that’s what we all lived by for all these years. We had to protect it, so I went after Eric. I sued him for a dollar.

Eric Peronnard: Let me explain to you the case. The case was very simple. AMA had made a deal with Pace for the term AMA Supercross. The definition of AMA Supercross was the stadium was at least 30,000 seats. I’ve got total respect for that deal being done, but we were not made aware of it. The AMA sold us the same supercross sanction, same price, with 15,000 seats. So technically we were an arenacross.

Pete Fox: Hell yeah I remember that fight over that word of supercross. That was mind-boggling to me. It was such an education and such an experience. How could they own that word?Eric Peronnard: The month before the race, we had an injunction from Pace. We’re like, holy shit. They said, “You can’t use the word supercross.” A couple weeks before, we received the injunction—most likely Carol received it at the dealership—saying, “You can’t use the word supercross.”

Gary Becker: I think arenacross was starting to get pretty popular in the mid-nineties as well. I think Mike Kidd was doing some arenacross. So this was arenacross. This wasn’t a supercross. The definition of supercross is in a stadium with 25,000-plus people.

Eric Peronnard: Everything is done. We had a good, young lawyer and he basically attacked the project and went and went and went. We finalized, I think it was the day before the race. We won that case. So we were concerned, but I don't think they could have been shutting us down completely.

Pete Fox: Whoever it was, was trying to shut it down. That was pretty wild.

Eric Peronnard: Pace tried to sue us. They sued both Mike and I. We had absolutely no…. It’s like I always said, I went to McDonald’s. They sold me a Big Mac that you’re telling me it’s not a Big Mac. Yes, you’re the competition, but you’re telling me what I got is not a Big Mac? But I paid McDonald’s for the Big Mac. So it’s like, where is the point? So without being so basic, that was the case, and they lost. So they lost and the race went on. I’m fighting Pace in court and it’s so expensive. You discover how much those things cost. We’re talking every time it’s $10,000. They were bottomless. They could spend all the money they wanted. I think they couldn’t believe what was going on. It was just very upsetting to them, but more on the pride level than anything else.

First year could be a shorter schedule, but hoping that it won’t end up shortening the AMA Nationals after it takes hold and grows.

I could see some sort of series with 2 Aus/NZ rounds, 2-3 European rounds, and 3-4 US rounds (8ish total).

Or perhaps a couple of US rounds will be combined AMA/FIM rounds.

Yeah? And if my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bicycle. What’re you getting at?

Good for them, and good riddance FIM

Can’t wait!

A few things I’ve discovered whilst doing a little “online research”: Approximately 433 million motorsports fans worldwide. 15 million here in the U.S . Countries with the highest percentage of Motosports fans ; 1. Italy 2. Japan 3.Spain 4. USA 5. Germany Obviously, not all “Motorsports “ Fans, are into MX and SX, but I think it’s solid info….

based on history of which riders can do these races, most factory guys wont be allowed so most likely the B team riders from places like HEP, Smarttop, fast guys who need checks etc

The guy behind it, Tony Cochrane, is the creator of the V8 Supercar series (Australian racing series known all over the world), he bought also the Aus-X because he saw potential. The V8 Supercar series he started from zero and sold it back in 2012 for 300 million Aussie dollars or about 213.5 million US Dollar or 190 million Euro. He can create something. He's now also in Aussie Football (AFL) and does some other stuff but it feels that he is a petrolhead at first.

PS: If they can create a schedule like back at the start of the ninties with a race in Japan, France, Swiss, Holland. Maybe one in Germany and two or three Australia.

PS2: The second question is, do you wanna race for 50 to 70k people (because that kind of stadiums are pretty rare in Europe) or do you aim on Paris (30k people), Montpelier (7k people), Geneva (7k people), ...

I said this before aus open got the rights.
They should use all the 1 off races to make a world sx.
Aus x
Paris sx
Monster cup
Add maybe a nz race
And other race in Europe or Canada and u have a series. It's a small series but it will be most successful that way

If the conditions of the late-90s are replicated and the "World Championship" is a collection of off-season races, I can't see it being a bad thing.

Those were always cool and had a good following. It was a great opportunity to see the guys on new bikes with less pressure.

If they have ambitions beyond that I think they are in for a much tougher time.

Ok, paywalled in US.
Basically what your snippet covered. Cochrane, the principal is well known and quite successful.
What he knows about SX as opposed to gathering investors who know less, would be a point of discussion.
Notable that there does not appear to be a figure head rider involved.

Link to your source please.

1. I am almost positive that Feld owns the name “Supercross”. I have read the comments above but I’ve been involved in Supercross in one way or another for years and truly believe they do from what I’ve heard. (Guess we’ll find out soon, or I could ask a guy).
2. Few months ago at the Vurb classic event, Chad and I chatted for a few min and I asked him about this subject and if he would still be interested or want to be involved in SX and he said ‘absolutely’. Said he had some guys to invest too.
3. A fall series could possibly work, but I just don’t see it working while overlapping our current series. (Money, logistics, tv coverage).
Thinking of some privateer buddies of mine, they would need good start money just to make the trip overseas. Too expensive and difficult to do it on their own unless the purse was ridiculously high.
I’m not against another series and have thought about a fall series and mentioned it to friends for years, but two series at the same time just won’t work. (Jam sports).
DD

But will the field without Feld be stacked?