What is a controversial Moto-related opinion you have?

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MyBobbym 12/7/2021 6:32pm
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deadlo wrote:
I’ll start I think 4 strokes sound better than 2 strokes (especially your average rider on a 2 stroke). I also think the low maintenance argument...
I’ll start

I think 4 strokes sound better than 2 strokes (especially your average rider on a 2 stroke).
I also think the low maintenance argument in favor of a 2 stroke is highly overrated and not very valid these days for an average speed rider.
MyBobbym wrote:
Shit can the 2 moto 30 min races and switch to 3 20 minute motos plus 2 laps. More different winners and contenders.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
They tried that in the GPs .
So... And?
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RonSkj 12/7/2021 6:37pm
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JS7, while being one of the best riders ever, lacks the common decency to let his fans know whats going on. Just quits and ghost's everyone. -- I know fan boys.. "he doesn't owe us anything". I disagree.
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motokiwi 12/7/2021 6:43pm
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Jeremy McGrath changed the sport more than anyone else - and is the real G.O.A.T.



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cable 12/7/2021 6:45pm
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Ditch the "C" class at Loretta Lynns.
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Forty 12/7/2021 6:49pm
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Aftermarket 4-Stroke pipes are a huge waste of $. One of the great hoodwinks of the last 20 years in our sport.
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MyBobbym 12/7/2021 6:53pm
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bite_the_curb wrote:
the 3rd gen cr250 is an underrated bike the older KX 2-strokes were too long the level of talent is dropping off. jett lawrence is not...
the 3rd gen cr250 is an underrated bike

the older KX 2-strokes were too long

the level of talent is dropping off. jett lawrence is not the next james stewart
Huh? Nobody is the next Bubba.
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Sully 12/7/2021 6:56pm
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jambalaya wrote:
Factory kawi signing Weimer instead of Pourcel because he’s RV’s buddy robbed the fans of seeing Pourcel in the 450 class when he still cared about...
Factory kawi signing Weimer instead of Pourcel because he’s RV’s buddy robbed the fans of seeing Pourcel in the 450 class when he still cared about winning
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Pourcel came off of 2 sx series titles and wanted 700k a year, more than RV re signed for. They tried to negotiate, he told them...
Pourcel came off of 2 sx series titles and wanted 700k a year, more than RV re signed for. They tried to negotiate, he told them no.

He tested a Geico Honda, loved it but they only offered bonus money so he said no.

He tested the Valle Yamaha, hated it but they offered him a good salary so he took it.

They hired Wiemer because he rode for the right amount, they continued to rehire him because he was a great test rider.
jambalaya wrote:
Yeah and I don’t give a shit about how good of a teammate Weimer was or how much money he made. I want to see the...
Yeah and I don’t give a shit about how good of a teammate Weimer was or how much money he made. I want to see the best riders on the best bikes and Pourcel was a hell of a lot better than Weimer
Doesn't matter how much better Rider A is than Rider B, if Rider A goes to the contract table like they're Dr. Evil and immediately prices themselves out of the conversation.
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bite_the_curb 12/7/2021 6:58pm
12/7/2021 6:58pm
bite_the_curb wrote:
the 3rd gen cr250 is an underrated bike the older KX 2-strokes were too long the level of talent is dropping off. jett lawrence is not...
the 3rd gen cr250 is an underrated bike

the older KX 2-strokes were too long

the level of talent is dropping off. jett lawrence is not the next james stewart
MyBobbym wrote:
Huh? Nobody is the next Bubba.
there are peolpe out there who think jett is some sort of next level guy

tomac was/is the last of the 'next level' guys, IMO. even James himself said he would watch out for tomac becuase he was one of the few who had his speed

im not excited about the sports new entrants at all tbh..maybe im just getting older.
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Blue Groove 12/7/2021 7:05pm
12/7/2021 7:05pm
cheesehead420 wrote:
So your saying you like having a boss that makes 10x more then you, does 10x less then you, and is probably only in that position...
So your saying you like having a boss that makes 10x more then you, does 10x less then you, and is probably only in that position because his father was the last boss?
So your saying that you enjoy not having the power to dictate your working conditions or have bargaining power when it comes to wages?
So you are weak minded and like being told what to do?.. if that’s what your trying to say, it certainly doesn’t sound very “MAGA” to me... when working people unite and decide their lives for themselves; then maybe America becomes great.. and socialism isn’t a real thing. Educate yourself friend
I know better then to reply to this, but……

Unionized labor is socialism at its core. I don’t mean that in a derogatory way either. Some education may help with your understanding of that. People deciding for themselves can be interpreted as the opposite of what you are promoting as well.

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ATKpilot99 12/7/2021 7:11pm
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MyBobbym wrote:
Shit can the 2 moto 30 min races and switch to 3 20 minute motos plus 2 laps. More different winners and contenders.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
They tried that in the GPs .
MyBobbym wrote:
So... And?
It was in the early 90s and they abandoned it after a few seasons. That format was in place when Donny Schmit won the 250 World Championship . I didn't think it was bad .
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kage173 12/7/2021 7:14pm
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jambalaya wrote:
Yeah and I don’t give a shit about how good of a teammate Weimer was or how much money he made. I want to see the...
Yeah and I don’t give a shit about how good of a teammate Weimer was or how much money he made. I want to see the best riders on the best bikes and Pourcel was a hell of a lot better than Weimer
Jake Weimer after he beat Christophe Pourcel at the 2010 east/west shootout


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jambalaya 12/7/2021 7:34pm
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jambalaya wrote:
Yeah and I don’t give a shit about how good of a teammate Weimer was or how much money he made. I want to see the...
Yeah and I don’t give a shit about how good of a teammate Weimer was or how much money he made. I want to see the best riders on the best bikes and Pourcel was a hell of a lot better than Weimer
kage173 wrote:
Jake Weimer after he beat Christophe Pourcel at the 2010 east/west shootout [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/07/521663/s1200_Screenshot_20211207_211034_Chrome.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/07/521662/s1200_Screenshot_20211207_211056_Chrome.jpg[/img]
Jake Weimer after he beat Christophe Pourcel at the 2010 east/west shootout


So you think Weimer was a better rider than Pourcel?
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“Influencers” who do nothing more than strip a bike down, source all the cleanup/coating work, pay to have an engine and suspension built, and then bolt it back together ARE NOT bike builders.
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mxtech1 12/7/2021 8:22pm
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Factory bikes are sophisticated enough to actively manage the amount the rear wheel slip during closed course racing and the AMA rule book has not been amended properly to keep up with these technological advancements. Nor do they have the technical ability to inspect for violations.

The “traction control” rule was written decades ago when the powers-at-be determined such technology could only be implemented with the use of wheel speed sensors.
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Meister 12/7/2021 8:25pm
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Opinion: Over 80% of people posting on vital shouldn't be giving advice to anyone because they're most likely a goon, or don't even ride at all. The other 20% are legit moto people with history.
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SLAPAHO 12/7/2021 8:26pm
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The 2008 CRF450 wasn’t all that
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ACBraap 12/7/2021 8:55pm
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Forty wrote:

Aftermarket 4-Stroke pipes are a huge waste of $. One of the great hoodwinks of the last 20 years in our sport.
I’d love to see somebody knowledgeable explain why they cost so much more than a 2 stroke aftermarket pipe and silencer when they appear easier to produce.
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sumdood 12/7/2021 9:25pm
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Forty wrote:

Aftermarket 4-Stroke pipes are a huge waste of $. One of the great hoodwinks of the last 20 years in our sport.
ACBraap wrote:
I’d love to see somebody knowledgeable explain why they cost so much more than a 2 stroke aftermarket pipe and silencer when they appear easier to...
I’d love to see somebody knowledgeable explain why they cost so much more than a 2 stroke aftermarket pipe and silencer when they appear easier to produce.
Material cost maybe ? Aren't most 4 strokes pipes titanium vs stamped steel for 2 stroke pipes ? 100% a guess....
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devindavisphoto 12/7/2021 9:35pm
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just because someone is faster than another rider doesn't make them a better rider.
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sumdood 12/7/2021 9:41pm
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devindavisphoto wrote:
just because someone is faster than another rider doesn't make them a better rider.
I'll take "Things slow riders say for 100 Alex"
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scott_nz 12/7/2021 11:18pm
12/7/2021 11:18pm Edited Date/Time 12/7/2021 11:28pm
Not quite moto

But the Britten would have been a much better bike with a set of forks
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Broseph 12/7/2021 11:25pm
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Meister wrote:
Opinion: Over 80% of people posting on vital shouldn't be giving advice to anyone because they're most likely a goon, or don't even ride at all...
Opinion: Over 80% of people posting on vital shouldn't be giving advice to anyone because they're most likely a goon, or don't even ride at all. The other 20% are legit moto people with history.
As part of the 80%, I concur.
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kpersonius264 12/8/2021 12:32am
12/8/2021 12:32am
Supercross only riders should easily smoke everyone else who focuses half the year on mx.
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blockhead17 12/8/2021 1:17am
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The following jokes on vital are played out and need to stop;
Looks comfortable
Torque sprocket bolts
About tree fiddy
Stews ECU
Chads tablecloth
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Motofinne 12/8/2021 1:34am
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Once you are getting lapped the second time in SX, you automatically get the black flag.
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robkinuk 12/8/2021 2:31am
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Revving the shit out of your bike or burnouts after winning a championship are stupid and lame, disrespectful to the mechanics who build these bikes and to the factory/team they represent!
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Cortami79 12/8/2021 3:16am
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The RMZ250 is a great quality bike and handles/turns better then a KTM. Too bad it's heavy, slow and not updated since 2009
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Dutch348 12/8/2021 3:30am
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The newest Shoei is the ugliest one of all. Mouthpiece is waaaay too big
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queen of spodes 12/8/2021 6:57am
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Canes Chicken is better then Chick-Fil-A
Guthries > Canes > Zaxby's > McDonalds > Chikfila
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Pakoyz250f 12/8/2021 9:24am
12/8/2021 9:24am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2021 9:26am
kage173 wrote:
Jake Weimer after he beat Christophe Pourcel at the 2010 east/west shootout [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/07/521663/s1200_Screenshot_20211207_211034_Chrome.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/07/521662/s1200_Screenshot_20211207_211056_Chrome.jpg[/img]
Jake Weimer after he beat Christophe Pourcel at the 2010 east/west shootout


Wow... comparing Weimer with Pourcel??? Nothing against Weimer but Pourcel was way way better than Weimer in SX and MX c´mon...

Another story is what happened on the negotiations but just no point comparing them in their riding and accomplishments...
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