What is a controversial Moto-related opinion you have?

TheGetFresh wrote:

Stiff boots are the reason knee injuries, particularly ACL injuries, have been so common in the modern era. The same thing happened to skiing when the...

Stiff boots are the reason knee injuries, particularly ACL injuries, have been so common in the modern era. The same thing happened to skiing when the leather Nordic style ski boots were replaced by the rigid shell modern alpine boots. Knee injuries were uncommon, but are now a cost of doing business for any long time skier.

The recent knee brace debate made it clear that knee safety and protection is a salient topic for riders in the lowly vet C ranks all the way to the elite levels of the sport, and no one has a clear understanding of the benefits or negatives of prophylactic knee bracing. All the while, riders are binding the entire structure of the foot and ankle into a makeshift walking cast (I’m looking squarely at you, tech 10). Furthermore, most ACL injuries do not involve any direct impact to the knee itself but rather the lower leg striking an object or getting stuck in an unnatural position in the ground. Knee injuries start at the foot, and binding the foot has shown to translate more energy to the knee in studies of other sports (I believe University of Vermont keeps a specific database on knee injuries in skiing and the causal relationship is clear), but here we are continuing to stiffen, overbuild and overweigh our boots while scratching our heads about why our knees are failing us.

mvd61 wrote:

Possibly but it’s mostly due to folks lack of mobility and lack of strength at end range of motion. The majority has been taught that the...

Possibly but it’s mostly due to folks lack of mobility and lack of strength at end range of motion. The majority has been taught that the knee never goes ahead of the toe and there’s no need to go below parallel. More weight training and less cycling.

Bosu ball belongs in the trash with the indo board.

sandtrack315 wrote:

It’s called the “phantom foot” phenomenon, where the tail of the ski, which acts like an alternate (or “phantom”) foot, combined with the stiff back of...

It’s called the “phantom foot” phenomenon, where the tail of the ski, which acts like an alternate (or “phantom”) foot, combined with the stiff back of a ski boot, functions as a lever to apply a singular blend of twisting and bending weight loads to the knee. The centrally located anterior cruciate ligament, which connects the femur and tibia bones and helps stabilize the knee, can’t handle the stress.

This isn’t a common occurrence in moto. I get that the force has to go somewhere, and stiff boots transfer more force, though.

m21racing wrote:

Bring back booze and tobacco sponsors!

MotoCoUSA wrote:

Ronnie Mac inhales

Radical wrote:

I think leaded fuel should be illegal at the amateur level, and even on practice days. If the pros don't need it, amateurs don't either. My...

I think leaded fuel should be illegal at the amateur level, and even on practice days.
If the pros don't need it, amateurs don't either.
My beef is that I don't want to be breathing lead in the exhaust fumes.

thatswhathappens wrote:

Most vet guys would be just as fast and might have more fun with a regular 250F instead of a factory edition 450.

Bruce372 wrote:

450s are not too fast or powerful.

rider41 wrote:

Ronnie Mac is lame. Being a white trash character is completely stupid and low brow.

TheGetFresh wrote:

Stiff boots are the reason knee injuries, particularly ACL injuries, have been so common in the modern era. The same thing happened to skiing when the...

Stiff boots are the reason knee injuries, particularly ACL injuries, have been so common in the modern era. The same thing happened to skiing when the leather Nordic style ski boots were replaced by the rigid shell modern alpine boots. Knee injuries were uncommon, but are now a cost of doing business for any long time skier.

The recent knee brace debate made it clear that knee safety and protection is a salient topic for riders in the lowly vet C ranks all the way to the elite levels of the sport, and no one has a clear understanding of the benefits or negatives of prophylactic knee bracing. All the while, riders are binding the entire structure of the foot and ankle into a makeshift walking cast (I’m looking squarely at you, tech 10). Furthermore, most ACL injuries do not involve any direct impact to the knee itself but rather the lower leg striking an object or getting stuck in an unnatural position in the ground. Knee injuries start at the foot, and binding the foot has shown to translate more energy to the knee in studies of other sports (I believe University of Vermont keeps a specific database on knee injuries in skiing and the causal relationship is clear), but here we are continuing to stiffen, overbuild and overweigh our boots while scratching our heads about why our knees are failing us.

wreckitrandy wrote:

The thread title says controversial opinion. Not, 'Total BS statement with absolutely nothing to back it up.'!!

deanwhite51 wrote:

Everts Lapped RC

Johnny Ringo wrote:

And RC repaid him by working him in the sand, in Belgium, with a blown out ACL, on an anemic CR250 (vs Evert’s 450)…. But like...

And RC repaid him by working him in the sand, in Belgium, with a blown out ACL, on an anemic CR250 (vs Evert’s 450)….

But like the thread title, that is a controversial take bro!

mvd61 wrote:

Possibly but it’s mostly due to folks lack of mobility and lack of strength at end range of motion. The majority has been taught that the...

Possibly but it’s mostly due to folks lack of mobility and lack of strength at end range of motion. The majority has been taught that the knee never goes ahead of the toe and there’s no need to go below parallel. More weight training and less cycling.

Bosu ball belongs in the trash with the indo board.

sandtrack315 wrote:

It’s called the “phantom foot” phenomenon, where the tail of the ski, which acts like an alternate (or “phantom”) foot, combined with the stiff back of...

It’s called the “phantom foot” phenomenon, where the tail of the ski, which acts like an alternate (or “phantom”) foot, combined with the stiff back of a ski boot, functions as a lever to apply a singular blend of twisting and bending weight loads to the knee. The centrally located anterior cruciate ligament, which connects the femur and tibia bones and helps stabilize the knee, can’t handle the stress.

This isn’t a common occurrence in moto. I get that the force has to go somewhere, and stiff boots transfer more force, though.

TheGetFresh wrote:

The “phantom foot” phenomenon is well documented because skiing injuries are studied to a greater degree than lower leg injuries in MX. Simply having a well...

The “phantom foot” phenomenon is well documented because skiing injuries are studied to a greater degree than lower leg injuries in MX. Simply having a well defined sequence and memorable name doesn’t mean that the contributing factors to those injuries are unique to the sport of skiing. There may be a “phantom foot” type injury in motocross that hasn’t been named so because the sport doesn’t command the same level of academic interest as skiing. The “phantom foot” in skiing damages the ACL because the ankle cannot move. I’m arguing that binding the ankle in motocross contributes to knee injuries also, albeit through different mechanisms.

And mvd61, I agree that the typical rider has poor mobility and strength in his knees and lower leg. I think that’s the reason for the popularity of super stiff boots.

deadlo wrote:

I’ll start I think 4 strokes sound better than 2 strokes (especially your average rider on a 2 stroke). I also think the low maintenance argument...

I’ll start

I think 4 strokes sound better than 2 strokes (especially your average rider on a 2 stroke).
I also think the low maintenance argument in favor of a 2 stroke is highly overrated and not very valid these days for an average speed rider.

Harry_Gray wrote:

There should only be 12 SX rounds. The 250 Class should be a full time series like the 450 Class. Bring back the 125 SX regional...

There should only be 12 SX rounds. The 250 Class should be a full time series like the 450 Class. Bring back the 125 SX regional series. No factory teams, only amateur support (i.e. Team Green, Orange Brigade, etc...) so it's an actual privateer class.

UpTiTe wrote:

Roger Decoster gets too much credit for Honda’s success.

Everyone who won with Aldon would’ve won without him

Magoo wasn’t as fast as his legend.