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It’s pretty embarrassing to see where Women’s MX has ended up here in the US. When I look at other pro action sports I see women thriving. Not Moto. We killed their Pro division. It’s sad. I’m sure the Pattersons, Geigers, Fioleks and Baus of the world are disappointed looking at the sport nowadays…
Is it actually possible or feasible? Fuck knows.
A womens class and a true 125 class - whether televised or not - should be a part of the schedule.
I'm not huge on Luongo and Co and I know anyone can pick holes with certain rules and parts of their programme all day long, but simply looking at classes / structure, look at what MXGP manage to do.
Amateur kids, womens, 125's, amateur 250's, premier championships... can't knock that aspect of what they do.
Not really fair as a comparison as one is a legit world championship and one is a national championship, albeit the biggest and best, but still food for thought and makes you wonder, Simple point said long I guess, sorry.
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Be objective vice emotional and its pretty easy to figure out.
Oh and saw Hannah Hodges at pax a month a ago, be far the fastest on the track ALL DAY
So anyway, why don’t humans with vaginas compete against humans with penises again? I’m confused.
I think it's pretty safe to say that the EMX series have been great in terms of developing talent. And if talent development isnt a reason to add this to the outdoors then there is also the financial benefits. WMX and EMX125 brought in 35K in entry fees alone on saturday, and that is excluding income for additional camping spots & tickets to the race.
I don’t think we want to put down WMX by comparing lap times or play the gender card.
I watched WMX at Hangtown and was impressed by the top riders intensity and clearing big Pro-day only doubles. Ashley Fiolek whipping it over the finish line jump for the win.
As a spectator I enjoyed the Nationals more when there was a two day format.
Amateur two days before that.
Gates were packed, had to be more money.
Oh, and I spent more money then too.
The women's class in just about any sport, unfortunately, is not as entertaining. Even at its height, the only women they would feature was fiolek and that was cuz she was deaf and fast, but even then her speed could only match guys in the back 40. (Checked lap times from hangtown in last year)
For the series, they simply weren't marketable. It would be like trying to get a TV package for local pros, not the best of the world.
But I'll echo what others have said, the ama should at least be matching what mxgp does with an emx women's, 125 and 250 class
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Tickets to a pro moto event are sold to people that want to see the best compete, nothing more. If the best happens to be a woman, great. If not, too bad.
Fire away!
I watched Jordan Jarvis at Washougal, she was flying and I can appreciate the obstacles she’s overcome to get to her level.
On those days , every class gets covered in both Motos ( on the MXGP package ). Besides the main two classes , MXGP and MX2 , the rest of the classes run on Saturday.
It's not politically driven.....it's just that the vast amount of coverage that goes out to the rest of the world , are the fastest classes.
One other thing.... motorsports are and will always be different. Do you see a woman's class in Formula 1 , 2 , 3 or 4 , GT racing , V8 supercar , Nascar , ect.....?
If anything , MX gives women a big push in GP. They helped quite a bit here to for a while. Name other motorsport which have done that.
During LL's this year, a bunch of us were talking about how cool would it be to have some amateur racing at ALL the outdoor nationals. Certainly all the classes that are racing at LL would be impossible to pack into a Sunday, but perhaps select classes at select events could incorporate the vast majority over the entire schedule. Maybe a different type of Championship for the amateurs?
You can stick with only showing up to watch 2 motos and then running home for the AC.
It’s like the WNBA player who thought that their contracts should mirror NBA contracts, without regard to the revenue generated by the different leagues.
The USWNT (women’s soccer) had somewhat of a point, but I disagreed with their timing. At the time that their contract was signed the women’s team was generating quite a bit less income than the men’s team, but that changed and the women wanted their pay to increase before the next contract negotiations. I didn’t agree with that reasoning but I think that they won what they did because they were all part of the same organization whereas the NBA and WNBA are separate, even if some NBA teams own WNBA franchises.
For Women’s MX, the answer is simple. Hold events with only women’s classes and riders. That will tell you how big of a draw it is. I think that it will be sparse right now.
Hold a women’s professional tennis event and it will probably be packed.
The paying customers/spectators are the metric to use.
Saturday:
Qualifications
Future amateur
Amateur kids
Pro women
Pro Vets
Vendors
Sunday:
Pro Motocross
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