2022 Kawasaki KX450SR (KYB suspension, and more...)

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10/5/2021 12:16pm
FGR01 wrote:
Straight from the press release: "Also new and adding to its true race machine looks is a Hinson Billetproof® clutch cover featuring the Kawasaki Racing Team...
Straight from the press release:

"Also new and adding to its true race machine looks is a Hinson Billetproof® clutch cover featuring the Kawasaki Racing Team logo that improves heat dissipation..."

Seems legit... Grinning
Brent wrote:
…and I thought the Honda “Twin pipes for better balance” justification was a stretch.😄 Just another sign that the marketing department has taken precedence over R...
…and I thought the Honda “Twin pipes for better balance” justification was a stretch.😄

Just another sign that the marketing department has taken precedence over R & D…
Marketing Trumps R&D all the the time, everytime.

I'm assuming you have a KTM or two with cone valves, so why the distaste towards this new kawi?
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10/5/2021 1:05pm
Brent wrote:
More stunt marketing for fat old men with some spare cash to spend, like me. If history teaches us anything, you will see these bikes the...
More stunt marketing for fat old men with some spare cash to spend, like me.

If history teaches us anything, you will see these bikes the day they come out parked at the Pala and Glen Helen vet tracks, ( right next to the new KTM FE) and being ridden without so much as a tire pressure, spoke, or sag check.

Bike will be too much for a guy who’s last time on a dirt bike was a 125 back in 1998, and will go up for sale on cycle trader with about 4 hours on it- or become a 14,000.00 garage queen that will forever have the new nubs on the OEM Dunlop’s until the day he sells it for a 4000.00 loss.

Mid life crisis vehicle?


I spend every day hoping guys like that exist and do my best to buy used bikes of them....next up on the hit list is a Kailub Russell Edition that has lived a life like you described. I just need to wait a little longer and let the layer of dust get a touch thicker....
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10/5/2021 2:10pm
ML512 wrote:
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/First-Look-2022-Kawasaki-KX450SR-Special-Racer-Edition,7547 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513245/s1200_.jpg.jpg[/img]
If you don’t pick this to win the shootout…. I’m sending you back to the Pros 😀
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10/5/2021 2:21pm
Brent wrote:
Instead of these bullshit pretend “special racers” or whatever, Kawi should just start producing 125s again, they would sell every one they make at a fat...
Instead of these bullshit pretend “special racers” or whatever, Kawi should just start producing 125s again, they would sell every one they make at a fat profit…

And while I’m ranting, what exactly is the point of a Hinson cover without a Hinson clutch behind it ?

The Hinson cover looks better and doesn't wear as easily as a normal Kawi cover.
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10/5/2021 2:31pm
FGR01 wrote:
Straight from the press release: "Also new and adding to its true race machine looks is a Hinson Billetproof® clutch cover featuring the Kawasaki Racing Team...
Straight from the press release:

"Also new and adding to its true race machine looks is a Hinson Billetproof® clutch cover featuring the Kawasaki Racing Team logo that improves heat dissipation..."

Seems legit... Grinning
From Hinson: “Oversize covers increase oil capacity in transmission and direct oil back in clutch, both features greatly increasing heat dissipation.”

They’re not claiming the Kawi logo does this, but they do need to hire a better copy writer.
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No APP adjustable ECU like Yamaha and Suzuki. If you are real racer I'd take ECU and Showa 49mm over some forks bling.
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10/5/2021 3:23pm Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 3:24pm
Meister wrote:
So... What does this have over the Honda besides XTrigs and renthal sprockets? Any hinson stuff inside?
Thats about it, Hinson is cover only, no changed internals

And I dont think the SR has anodized rear shock shaft
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10/5/2021 3:30pm
Heggo wrote:
No APP adjustable ECU like Yamaha and Suzuki. If you are real racer I'd take ECU and Showa 49mm over some forks bling.
I’m more of a soul rider
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10/5/2021 3:42pm
kb228 wrote:
Can someone help me justify spending $13,000 on a dirtbike?
Life is short. Buy the bike
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10/5/2021 3:44pm Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 3:46pm
....I'm sure that Kawasaki will sell every one of these models, in fact I think they could have raised the price and still sold them all. If somebody buys this bike and is happy with it, who am I to criticize. For what its worth, Id take the standard KX 450 stocker with suspension set up for me and an ECU and be happy.

This is just my personal preference, and I may be too Old School, but I like to build my own "Factory Edition" bike with the components that help me get on the podium, I don't really care what the bike looks like.

All the other old men I line up with at REM or swapmoto or OTMX have bikes that look beat to shit from racing and practicing - scratched plastic, torn graphics, worn out clutch covers, black rims that have more scratches than black paint- but they all appear to be dialed in with whatever parts their riders need to be competitive.

I don't see too many of these garage queen shiny new factory editions on the gate though - In fact one of the fastest guys in my class races a 10 year old RMZ 450 with beat up white plastic, but he has that bike working for him like a moFo, no factory edition necessary for him to still kick everyones ass...
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10/5/2021 3:50pm
Meister wrote:
So... What does this have over the Honda besides XTrigs and renthal sprockets? Any hinson stuff inside?
kiwifan wrote:
Thats about it, Hinson is cover only, no changed internals

And I dont think the SR has anodized rear shock shaft
Rear is dlc coated
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10/5/2021 3:56pm
Brent wrote:
....I'm sure that Kawasaki will sell every one of these models, in fact I think they could have raised the price and still sold them all...
....I'm sure that Kawasaki will sell every one of these models, in fact I think they could have raised the price and still sold them all. If somebody buys this bike and is happy with it, who am I to criticize. For what its worth, Id take the standard KX 450 stocker with suspension set up for me and an ECU and be happy.

This is just my personal preference, and I may be too Old School, but I like to build my own "Factory Edition" bike with the components that help me get on the podium, I don't really care what the bike looks like.

All the other old men I line up with at REM or swapmoto or OTMX have bikes that look beat to shit from racing and practicing - scratched plastic, torn graphics, worn out clutch covers, black rims that have more scratches than black paint- but they all appear to be dialed in with whatever parts their riders need to be competitive.

I don't see too many of these garage queen shiny new factory editions on the gate though - In fact one of the fastest guys in my class races a 10 year old RMZ 450 with beat up white plastic, but he has that bike working for him like a moFo, no factory edition necessary for him to still kick everyones ass...
If you had to guess, how much did you spend, time ,money travel etc on helping the mxgp rider ? Lotta new bike parts or even a new bike?
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10/5/2021 6:09pm
mx_phreek wrote:
That looks sweet and good value, must be a bit annoyed Eli left as this was his replica bike.

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10/5/2021 6:48pm
Meister wrote:
So... What does this have over the Honda besides XTrigs and renthal sprockets? Any hinson stuff inside?
kiwifan wrote:
Thats about it, Hinson is cover only, no changed internals

And I dont think the SR has anodized rear shock shaft
mxb2 wrote:
Rear is dlc coated
They said it is…but unless it’s picture angle, that’s chrome…
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10/5/2021 7:21pm
MXer391 wrote:
Neither does this bike...
Guess you didn’t watch ML’s video..
Guess you didn’t watch ML’s video..
ML512 wrote:
I said anodized lugs, not billet. If I did say billet, I’m an idiot.
So they are cast aluminum? In that case, anodizing is unlikely to look worth a damn. Unless something has greatly changed in the anodizing world.
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So everyone likes the big green claw? Just wondering…..
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10/5/2021 7:40pm
Sandusky26 wrote:
I heard Suzuki is coming out with a Barry Carsten edition next year
Post of the year!
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10/5/2021 9:16pm Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 9:19pm
mxb2 wrote:
If you had to guess, how much did you spend, time ,money travel etc on helping the mxgp rider ? Lotta new bike parts or even...
If you had to guess, how much did you spend, time ,money travel etc on helping the mxgp rider ? Lotta new bike parts or even a new bike?
Way more than I had planned. Im probably missing some stuff here, but this is the rough total.


Bike - 11K
Performance and consumable parts, a shitload of tires - 9K
VP Fuel for bike 40 gallons - 1300.00
Entry fees for rider and crew - 1000
Team clothing 500
Gas for vehicles 2800
Food 1000
Class A RV rental for the week to drive to Hangtown 4,500
Misc 2,000
Covid Testing for return flights - 400
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$33,000.00


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10/6/2021 5:25am
If you are totaling what it would cost to build this, remember a couple things…

-Kawasaki’s are almost always available mid-year for 2+ thousand off MSRP.

-although some have referred to this as “A-Kit” suspension, the PR seems to only refer to coatings.

-It DOES appear to come with a legit Ti PC pipe, which is nice. My KTM only came with a slip-on that doesn’t match the Akra header (meaning id have to buy a full system).

-no WiFi/etc tunable ECU

-“polished intake ports”…BFD

Basically you’re getting a KX450 with some cool looking coatings and a pipe. Buy it if you wish, it looks really cool. But there’s no “bargain” there.

(Yes, I bought a 21 KTM FE-but unlike the Kawi, KTMs don’t get sold for big discounts later in the year that I’ve seen, and I wanted the orange frame and bling bits-but I also recognized I could likely have built a standard SXF for less with actual performance stuff since I’ll be reworking my FE suspension anyway).

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SLAPAHO wrote:
So everyone likes the big green claw? Just wondering…..
When they're pumping as much money into the sport as they are and have been for years, I don't mind seeing it everywhere. People are quick to complain about it but also easily forget they're the first to complain about getting more money into the sport.
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10/6/2021 6:12am
I like it! Would be great to get more detail on the suspension. If it's the same as Enzo A kit that's good stuff and more than justifies the price premium.
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10/6/2021 6:21am Edited Date/Time 10/6/2021 6:29am
PNWRider wrote:
If you are totaling what it would cost to build this, remember a couple things… -Kawasaki’s are almost always available mid-year for 2+ thousand off MSRP...
If you are totaling what it would cost to build this, remember a couple things…

-Kawasaki’s are almost always available mid-year for 2+ thousand off MSRP.

-although some have referred to this as “A-Kit” suspension, the PR seems to only refer to coatings.

-It DOES appear to come with a legit Ti PC pipe, which is nice. My KTM only came with a slip-on that doesn’t match the Akra header (meaning id have to buy a full system).

-no WiFi/etc tunable ECU

-“polished intake ports”…BFD

Basically you’re getting a KX450 with some cool looking coatings and a pipe. Buy it if you wish, it looks really cool. But there’s no “bargain” there.

(Yes, I bought a 21 KTM FE-but unlike the Kawi, KTMs don’t get sold for big discounts later in the year that I’ve seen, and I wanted the orange frame and bling bits-but I also recognized I could likely have built a standard SXF for less with actual performance stuff since I’ll be reworking my FE suspension anyway).

I think you forgot that the Standard KX450 wheels hold up 10x better than a KTM, and the DID dirt stars will be even better.

Regardless of how "works" the KYB's are , or if they're just coated production stuff, how many guys buy the factory edition and spend thousands for a KYB or cone valve conversion?



I dont see kawasaki dealers discounting a limited edition bike, and it may happen in the future, but i'd rather pay 2k less for a bike new, and sell it for 2k less, because I shelled out less money all along.
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mxb2 wrote:
If you had to guess, how much did you spend, time ,money travel etc on helping the mxgp rider ? Lotta new bike parts or even...
If you had to guess, how much did you spend, time ,money travel etc on helping the mxgp rider ? Lotta new bike parts or even a new bike?
Brent wrote:
Way more than I had planned. Im probably missing some stuff here, but this is the rough total. Bike - 11K Performance and consumable parts, a...
Way more than I had planned. Im probably missing some stuff here, but this is the rough total.


Bike - 11K
Performance and consumable parts, a shitload of tires - 9K
VP Fuel for bike 40 gallons - 1300.00
Entry fees for rider and crew - 1000
Team clothing 500
Gas for vehicles 2800
Food 1000
Class A RV rental for the week to drive to Hangtown 4,500
Misc 2,000
Covid Testing for return flights - 400
__________
$33,000.00


Well thats 2 fe ktm s with cone valves or 2 new kawy 450 sr models. Lol. I d rather have the bikes. Imo.
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SLAPAHO wrote:
So everyone likes the big green claw? Just wondering…..
Those other post had a new yz 250 monster edition , no complaints. Who cares ,their $$ their choice.
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10/6/2021 6:32am
there's no way they are selling a 12K bike with 7.5K suspension.
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10/6/2021 6:34am
PNWRider wrote:
If you are totaling what it would cost to build this, remember a couple things… -Kawasaki’s are almost always available mid-year for 2+ thousand off MSRP...
If you are totaling what it would cost to build this, remember a couple things…

-Kawasaki’s are almost always available mid-year for 2+ thousand off MSRP.

-although some have referred to this as “A-Kit” suspension, the PR seems to only refer to coatings.

-It DOES appear to come with a legit Ti PC pipe, which is nice. My KTM only came with a slip-on that doesn’t match the Akra header (meaning id have to buy a full system).

-no WiFi/etc tunable ECU

-“polished intake ports”…BFD

Basically you’re getting a KX450 with some cool looking coatings and a pipe. Buy it if you wish, it looks really cool. But there’s no “bargain” there.

(Yes, I bought a 21 KTM FE-but unlike the Kawi, KTMs don’t get sold for big discounts later in the year that I’ve seen, and I wanted the orange frame and bling bits-but I also recognized I could likely have built a standard SXF for less with actual performance stuff since I’ll be reworking my FE suspension anyway).

dmm698 wrote:
I think you forgot that the Standard KX450 wheels hold up 10x better than a KTM, and the DID dirt stars will be even better. Regardless...
I think you forgot that the Standard KX450 wheels hold up 10x better than a KTM, and the DID dirt stars will be even better.

Regardless of how "works" the KYB's are , or if they're just coated production stuff, how many guys buy the factory edition and spend thousands for a KYB or cone valve conversion?



I dont see kawasaki dealers discounting a limited edition bike, and it may happen in the future, but i'd rather pay 2k less for a bike new, and sell it for 2k less, because I shelled out less money all along.
I always had the perception that the Austrian bikes have shitty wheels. I have 90 hrs on my 19 350. No dings .bends.warps or flat spots. Previously rode yamahas and never made it past 30hrs without a wheel issue
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10/6/2021 6:49am
It appears that they took a page out of the WE with very similar upgrades to the standard model. They upped it by adding the clamps & dampener.
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yota wrote:
there's no way they are selling a 12K bike with 7.5K suspension.
This. I’m betting that suspension just has coatings on it. That’s it.
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10/6/2021 9:10am Edited Date/Time 10/6/2021 9:11am
mxb2 wrote:
Well thats 2 fe ktm s with cone valves or 2 new kawy 450 sr models. Lol. I d rather have the bikes. Imo.
OR - I could help a young pro racer that has talent with his career.
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Sandusky26 wrote:
I heard Suzuki is coming out with a Barry Carsten edition next year
Post of the year!
I enjoy posting dumb shit on vital.
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