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'I shop around, find the dealer willing to sell me a bike for the lowest OTD price' You do understand with your train of thought that would no longer be an option right?
The UTV guys you are calling rednecks don't do that garbage and appreciate they have a retailer that helps them have a blast and get outside doing cool shit. Or maybe you are jealous of these "rednecks" that work their ass off during the week to afford 30K UTV's and goosenecks and they dont have to complain about $100.
Some of you desperately need to understand the value of relationships and how to build those. Team Greens example in this thread is a great example of that.
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And if threads about "BS dealer fees" are popping up on here every other week...then maybe the industry should take note, and stop charging them?
When i used to work in the motor trade in the 90's , it was £435 to get a car to the dealer from the factory, and it was 8 miles as the crow flew. The same £435 would get it anywhere in the UK... and guess what ..even if we went to fetch one, which we did , we still had to pay the £435. .
Everyone who thinks its easy, and they are getting ripped off should go and work in a dealers for a week, just to see, then shut the fuck up. Its a mugs game.
Or would you sleep better if a the MSRP wasnt 9399 for a new 450 and was a clean 10,000 but you didnt get charged the fee?
Shipping and transportation costs are in everything. Why is it that oems are transparent and your mad bro?
lol
Gone are the days when the only place to get parts and service was the local dealer...back then, it was important to have a good relationship with them so they'd take good care of you. Not any more! Dealers need to realize this and adjust their model...or keep complaining about their customers.
Ahhh just f-n with ya, i think dealers are a good thing as long as they are bending the people over enough to where they dont notice!
Doesnt that make any cents? No okay well the will bend you over untill they do, cause they take their REAL EYES and Realize the sport is going no where fast! Except into people with good credit scores hands!
Not cash!
The sport wont accell this way. It hit its peak 15-20 years ago, good luck fellas!
If there was money in it, you might get an enthusiastic and knowledgeable guy, but there isnt , so you are stuck with guys who think working in a bike dealers is cool, until it isnt.
Do some dealers add a percentage? Most likely. Because they know someone is going to want to negotiate that fee as well...
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So the "need" vs "want" isn't really a valid issue.
Let's just say that the dealer spends $8K for a bike that he hopes that he can sell for $10K. Call it 25% mark up, 20 % margin, whatever angle you choose.
As an HVAC guy, if you are buying $8K in parts you are probably going to charge about $12-$15K for those parts, correct? Maybe a little bit more or less depending on the product mix, obviously, but most hardware type of stuff I've seen from working as a manager at a Big Box hardware store is marked up at least 50%, sometimes MUCH more. Most actual HVAC companies sure seem to mark up more than the retail stores do, in my experience.
Personally I think that MOST dealers are a lot like a local HVAC supply store. Sure, you may be able to get some of your stuff cheaper through Home Depot or Lowe's, but there are specialty items that those places just don't carry and won't ever. When the local HVAC store goes out of business, that doesn't mean that Lowe's or Home Depot will carry those specialty items, it will mean that you will have to search harder to find it or order it from someone who may ship you everything wrong and then deal with shipping it back, etc.
Let's put it this way, if Walmart suddenly decided to start selling Alpinestars boots, Bell Helmets, and Hinson clutches in their stores for 10-20% less than a local dealer, it wouldn't make me want to rush out and get those things from Walmart because there are still TONS of things that Walmart just will never stock that the local dealer will.
But then again, even as bad as some dealers can be our 2 local ones that are left always seem to have the basics on hand, even if some model-specific parts can't really be stocked and sat on for years at a time.
As to buying it directly from the manufacturer, who would take care of the problems that are in that new bike when it is uncrated? Who would do the repairs under warranty? Maybe there are a lot of people here that wouldn't care or could do the repairs but what about all the street bike, atv and utv customers? mx bikes are a very small part of most dealers sales and profits and usually there because the principal (owner) likes dirt bikes. They could make a lot more money using the space to sell other products. Every square foot of space is supposed to have a return on capital, if it's not measuring up, that space needs to be changed to some other product.
Have fun, if you can buy your dirt bike from someone that's there for you, give them a change when you needs parts or accessories. When your bike won't run right or it grenades you may wish they were there next year to help you out.
Enjoy the ride.
That’s what buying bikes is like.
Advertised the bikes for $5999 then when it comes time to actually pay its $7877.
Just advertise the actual price - plus tax if applicable - nothing else.
I’ve found dealers who operate that way, and that’s who I do business with.
The retail plus anal lube fee, plus doc fee, plus prep fee, plus plus plus can suck a fat one.
You nickel and dime dealer charges, on top of complaining about the price itself (or that you have to buy a four stroke), then you nickel and dime the parts and accessories, while you actually just order it off of the internet anyway
Then you complain when they go out of business
Most people say that they just want a set price on a car, but very few of them actually mean that. You may be one of the few, but you are very much in the minority.
New cars always have the price on them, but virtually no one ever offers to pay that listed price and be on their way.
And I'm not talking about "other fees", our stores here don't list the total cost of the item including tax, and neither do cars. Same with licensing fees, because those can vary depending on where the buyer lives not on where they actually purchase.
But the Monroney sticker lists the MSRP and the Freight charge, and most buyers absolutely ignore that even though 90% of new car dealers will be more than happy to accept that as the purchase price for a new vehicle.
If dealer A had a yz250f at $8500 OTD online and Dealer B saw that and changed it their price to $8499 OTD where is billy going to go buy the bike? Dealer B right. People will drop their pants for whomever they believe is giving them the best deal. The pricing is modeled to get people in the store. There is so much more that goes into it. It sucks that consumers think it is a way to "F" them in the "A" but really it's just cutting throats between competing dealers.
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