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My dealer never charges freight, set-up or doc fees and still get me the bike for less than list/gives break on parts. sometimes less than I can buy the stuff online.
YMMV!
Don't assume a dealer is fucking you with extra fees. We're trying to make enough to keep the lights on. We ARE charged freight, we do have to pay someone to put it together and check it over, we do have to pay the salesmen their commission and we do have massive overhead to deal with
There's a ton of money in powersports, but there's not a lot of money IN powersports
Why?
It's cushy work. It pays the same as ass busting.
Let the rookies and others work on the PITA bike-in-a-box and the perpetually broken ATV stuff.
The Shop
My brother is a longtime, multi line dealer. My dad started the business in 1974, and it's still going strong to this day.
He has never tacked on any of those bogus fees, The price they quote you is plus tax out the door. He does charge a $35 doc fee. Which is quite fair for what they have to do.
Shop around and quit being stupid, getting sucked in by all the dishonest dealers advertising low prices online with fucked up hidden fees. Then come here and complain about it.
Reward the good guys! They're out there if you look.
Btw, there's very little profit in dirtbikes. Sad but true.
And yes...we’d be forced to pay the MSRP...which is what we pay now...but we wouldn’t have to drive to the dealer, pay all their other fees on top of it. Cutting out the middle man knocks 10%-20% off the MSRP right there which covers most of the freight charge. So we get the bike delivered to our door, for less money.
And I don’t mind paying freight...as long as it’s a legit cost (my OP was a question as to whether they are legit...and it sounds like it is). But if I have to pay it, I’d rather it be directly to my house than to you the dealership.
All I use them for now is to buy a bike...and if I could do that online, direct from the manufacturer, I wouldn’t even need them for that?
Un-crated
Put together
Already rode wheelies
(The full factory Graphics Kit was “no charge” 🤣)
Pit Row
But hes right in one aspect about “needing” a dealer, there wasn’t dealers back in the day there were mail order catalogues straight from factory!
There are already companies around me that only sell parts and oils and chemicals not bikes, and there making a shit ton more than anydealer i have ever seen, hell they might be familiar to you guys i think they go by the name Rocky mountain atv mc.
Here's an actual invoice for a 2021 50SX. Gross value, shipping and "added value margin" are what we are billed. For a grand total of $4263. The bike at full retail on KTM's website is 4399. After we sell the bike, we get the "added value margin" back as a credit to our parts bill. So technically, we pay 3863 for a bike, and if we sell it at FULL retail, and we only received one, yes ONE of these for the entire 2021 season, and we ordered 4, we make about $500.00 profit before expenses.
And that's if we sell at FULL retail, now we have to pay the tech (maybe an hour to two real time to uncrate, do an accurate PDI-pre delivery inspection, test ride, rejet and tune (yes we jet them), then the sales people do the paperwork and DMV papers, so maybe an hour to two depending on if they are doing financing on the unit also. And before you say "it takes 5 minutes to put the bars and wheel on!", an accurate PDI from a tech that does a good job is a checklist from KTM that is usually about 40 - 70 items you have to check. Torque specs, oil level, air filter, jetting, test ride, spokes, basically put a wrench on every single nut and bolt. And they log in and sign their name and check each box after each item is complete, you can't do one of these in 5 minutes, sorry. So after the "employee" cost gets taken care of, maybe closer to $350.00 profit on a bike we sold at FULL retail.
That's about 8%, give or take. And rent isn't free. Utilities aren't free. Liability insurance isn't free. And a couple of the smaller street bikes, the actual invoice is MORE, yes MORE than full retail on the bike. So if we don't add freight we would lose money by selling at retail. So we are forced to add our "bullshit" fees, because if we just sell at retail, we will lose money. Sounds crazy, but that's the business. I will post the invoice of those smaller street units if I can find one, but yes, on delivery day we pay more than retail on the unit.
Titan1, guys like you are the customers we don't ever want to see in our shop. And like the other guy asked you but you never answered, would like like to pay MSRP plus freight with ZERO chance of negotiation direct through an OEM? Or have a relationship with a dealer who will sell you bikes and parts at a discount, no freight, no set up, and give you some free goggles or a free bike stand, help you fix your bike on a Friday night by taking a part from a bike on the floor, letting you take parts home and pay later, and staying till 9:00 at night to fix your bike, and saying hi to you by first name when you walk in? By the way you talk, most dealers to you are horrible, but with our experience, if you come in acting like an asshole and your a bad person, you get treated that way also. I'm guessing your the type of customer that pissed off every shop you walked into by being unreasonable to work with.
Titan1, your the type of guy who gets his lawn mowed by a 12 year old for $10 then tries to weasel him down to $5.00. And I know, your not gonna change who you are.......
Come on, i bet you wont post that shit up!
350.00 profit on a ktm50sx lmao!!!!!
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