Washougal Canceled?

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APLMAN99 wrote:
The press release said new restrictions. I can’t find any new state restrictions today, nor could I find any for Clark County. I think that’s just...
The press release said new restrictions. I can’t find any new state restrictions today, nor could I find any for Clark County.

I think that’s just a throwaway for not just wanting to say that it was too risky of a business decision. Which it probably is.

Not having the Washougal race is disappointing, but I understand why it was probably cancelled. But it doesn’t appear to have been because of any new restrictions, as was stated.
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That’s what I am saying. I just wish there was at least some transparency in this. And 810- it’s easy to not get pissed when your...
That’s what I am saying. I just wish there was at least some transparency in this. And 810- it’s easy to not get pissed when your vacation and thing you look forward to all year wasn’t taken away less than 5 days before you were supposed to leave.
How did you look forward to something all year that was planned for 30 days and clearly stated things could change at any time? I understand...
How did you look forward to something all year that was planned for 30 days and clearly stated things could change at any time? I understand it sucks, but challenging the promoter who busts their ass for us to have outdoor MX is not cool IMO. How much cash do you think they are hemorrhaging this year due to 9 rounds instead of 12 with half the fans or less?? Maybe the track owner didn't acquire the proper permit or the county pulled the rug out at the last minute? All kinds of things going on with this COVID BS and some of it makes no sense.
Pretty sure Washougal comes around every year and was never “off” the schedule. How am I challenging him? They didn’t list a reason other than the oems and rlt decided not to go. Washougal said they have the green light. Nothing changed in Washington state over the last week. Something seems off to most of us.
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How are these events still even being planned with Clark County still in phase 2? I haven’t looked at one of these graphs yet but these restrictions say “no contact with more than 5 strangers per week”. Man, this shit is bananas.
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8/15/2020 12:56am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2020 1:00am
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing LLQ's going to the supercross and nationals every year. This spring/summer I wanted so bad to attend those events in honor of our time together. Things like" this is the first year since 2004 that we haven't attended a national together". That year as come and gone with all my normal vacations shot to shit due to this covid shit. I feel ya on the vacation part. To make is even worse, I work in the ER so I deal with the stinking shit every-single-fucking day.

All that said I don't think mxsports is trying to "hide" the reason why they had to cancel the event. I am still hoping for a WW ranch race. Last years WW race was the last time I ever saw my son alive. I was really torn up when they didn't have the event. I went to Jacksonville anyway despite no race. But like you, I MF'ering hate this new world we are having to live in.
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Washougal is still doing the amateur national next weekend, so they aren’t completely shut down
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Washougal has long been a sore spot in the schedule for travel, which apparently had nothing to do with this. Perhaps this will help them fit...
Washougal has long been a sore spot in the schedule for travel, which apparently had nothing to do with this. Perhaps this will help them fit into a more logical West coast tour in the future. Common sense is not so common.
A large part of America wants nothing to do with WA and Portland right now and you can't blame them.
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With the rate people are moving here and the rate that houses are selling. I'll just say you're wrong Wink
Hopefully that trend continues long enough for me to sell my home at a ridiculous price and get the F out of the PNW.
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gharmon wrote:
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing...
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing LLQ's going to the supercross and nationals every year. This spring/summer I wanted so bad to attend those events in honor of our time together. Things like" this is the first year since 2004 that we haven't attended a national together". That year as come and gone with all my normal vacations shot to shit due to this covid shit. I feel ya on the vacation part. To make is even worse, I work in the ER so I deal with the stinking shit every-single-fucking day.

All that said I don't think mxsports is trying to "hide" the reason why they had to cancel the event. I am still hoping for a WW ranch race. Last years WW race was the last time I ever saw my son alive. I was really torn up when they didn't have the event. I went to Jacksonville anyway despite no race. But like you, I MF'ering hate this new world we are having to live in.

Sorry for your loss. Sounds like you made the most of your time together.
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gharmon wrote:
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing...
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing LLQ's going to the supercross and nationals every year. This spring/summer I wanted so bad to attend those events in honor of our time together. Things like" this is the first year since 2004 that we haven't attended a national together". That year as come and gone with all my normal vacations shot to shit due to this covid shit. I feel ya on the vacation part. To make is even worse, I work in the ER so I deal with the stinking shit every-single-fucking day.

All that said I don't think mxsports is trying to "hide" the reason why they had to cancel the event. I am still hoping for a WW ranch race. Last years WW race was the last time I ever saw my son alive. I was really torn up when they didn't have the event. I went to Jacksonville anyway despite no race. But like you, I MF'ering hate this new world we are having to live in.
Best wishes for everything you are going through right now. While many people are hurting, the hurt you must be dealing with is something many of us don't ever want to imagine.

Sincere good thoughts to your family.
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We haven't had a national in almost 10 years in TX.
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Nothing here at the "local level" caused this- I can tell you that.

No "new restrictions"- the track is still well inside of compliance parameters.

Track and crew have gone above and beyond to set an example for other area tracks to follow.

Races still going on at Washougal next week/weekend- conditions will be awesome.

Pro purse is at $8,000.00 and currently growing.

A lot of moving parts to this whole deal- but in my opinion, the timeframe on how all of this was handled was the really shitty part.

I'll be there next weekend. Supporting my local non-corpo racetrack.

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Nothing here at the "local level" caused this- I can tell you that. No "new restrictions"- the track is still well inside of compliance parameters. Track...
Nothing here at the "local level" caused this- I can tell you that.

No "new restrictions"- the track is still well inside of compliance parameters.

Track and crew have gone above and beyond to set an example for other area tracks to follow.

Races still going on at Washougal next week/weekend- conditions will be awesome.

Pro purse is at $8,000.00 and currently growing.

A lot of moving parts to this whole deal- but in my opinion, the timeframe on how all of this was handled was the really shitty part.

I'll be there next weekend. Supporting my local non-corpo racetrack.

THIS...Ryan talked to the state the day before MX Sports just decided to move the National. Everything was good to go. Had nothing to do with local agencies.
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8/15/2020 11:03pm
gharmon wrote:
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing...
This shit fucked up everyone's vacation. My son was killed july 2019 and spring was always busy with us going places like a ski trips, chasing LLQ's going to the supercross and nationals every year. This spring/summer I wanted so bad to attend those events in honor of our time together. Things like" this is the first year since 2004 that we haven't attended a national together". That year as come and gone with all my normal vacations shot to shit due to this covid shit. I feel ya on the vacation part. To make is even worse, I work in the ER so I deal with the stinking shit every-single-fucking day.

All that said I don't think mxsports is trying to "hide" the reason why they had to cancel the event. I am still hoping for a WW ranch race. Last years WW race was the last time I ever saw my son alive. I was really torn up when they didn't have the event. I went to Jacksonville anyway despite no race. But like you, I MF'ering hate this new world we are having to live in.
Wow, sorry for your loss man.
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DE262 wrote:
Nothing here at the "local level" caused this- I can tell you that. No "new restrictions"- the track is still well inside of compliance parameters. Track...
Nothing here at the "local level" caused this- I can tell you that.

No "new restrictions"- the track is still well inside of compliance parameters.

Track and crew have gone above and beyond to set an example for other area tracks to follow.

Races still going on at Washougal next week/weekend- conditions will be awesome.

Pro purse is at $8,000.00 and currently growing.

A lot of moving parts to this whole deal- but in my opinion, the timeframe on how all of this was handled was the really shitty part.

I'll be there next weekend. Supporting my local non-corpo racetrack.

Hudd_421 wrote:
THIS...Ryan talked to the state the day before MX Sports just decided to move the National. Everything was good to go. Had nothing to do with...
THIS...Ryan talked to the state the day before MX Sports just decided to move the National. Everything was good to go. Had nothing to do with local agencies.
That’s what makes me wonder why they would even say what they did.

Moving it probably makes very solid financial and logistical sense. Lots of us up here may be upset and not willing to accept the real reasoning because of our emotions, but putting out a false statement in the press release is not the right way to try to reduce that.

Just tell the truth, and stand by the reasoning.
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8/16/2020 9:13am
APLMAN99 wrote:
That’s what makes me wonder why they would even say what they did. Moving it probably makes very solid financial and logistical sense. Lots of us...
That’s what makes me wonder why they would even say what they did.

Moving it probably makes very solid financial and logistical sense. Lots of us up here may be upset and not willing to accept the real reasoning because of our emotions, but putting out a false statement in the press release is not the right way to try to reduce that.

Just tell the truth, and stand by the reasoning.
Be careful people will crucify you on here for asking these questions. What just happened to Washougal is a joke, they put out so much money to just get shit on at the last minute. Hopefully they make it right by them.
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PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections"

We are all speculating what is actually going on, I will add my .02. Last week, local (Washington) news made a complete COVID mockery of what was going on at Sturgis (lots of video), painting a very large brush stroke of how awful these people are and how this is going to cause a national outbreak. Our state governor (Washougal is in WA, not OR) has been well known to knee jerk and WAY over react, especially during the pandemic which has been really unfair to those not living in Seattle and places with low infection rates (like Washougal), and he is also in an election cycle so he isn't going to let anything 'bad happen' on his watch. This is a televised event (thus the difference between the amateur races), and if you think we are going to have televised sporting events happening in WA at this moment, you are nuts. The televised mockery of Sturgis I guarantee you did not help.

We won't find anything at the local or state level that says anything about new restrictions, any new restrictions would be unwarranted. However, I am betting my tail a mix of what I noted above, our governor does not want any televised sports showing WA state taking a single remote risk, especially during the election cycle. WA, CA, OR governors have mirrored efforts and restrictions through this whole mess, I fully expect the same to happen for PALA.

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PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections" We are all speculating...
PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections"

We are all speculating what is actually going on, I will add my .02. Last week, local (Washington) news made a complete COVID mockery of what was going on at Sturgis (lots of video), painting a very large brush stroke of how awful these people are and how this is going to cause a national outbreak. Our state governor (Washougal is in WA, not OR) has been well known to knee jerk and WAY over react, especially during the pandemic which has been really unfair to those not living in Seattle and places with low infection rates (like Washougal), and he is also in an election cycle so he isn't going to let anything 'bad happen' on his watch. This is a televised event (thus the difference between the amateur races), and if you think we are going to have televised sporting events happening in WA at this moment, you are nuts. The televised mockery of Sturgis I guarantee you did not help.

We won't find anything at the local or state level that says anything about new restrictions, any new restrictions would be unwarranted. However, I am betting my tail a mix of what I noted above, our governor does not want any televised sports showing WA state taking a single remote risk, especially during the election cycle. WA, CA, OR governors have mirrored efforts and restrictions through this whole mess, I fully expect the same to happen for PALA.

But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”.

That’s the point.

Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of the event being cancelled over the next 7-10 days, and live with it. As it’s written, there will be plenty of people who take it at face value and will believe that Inslee cancelled the event, which is simply not true.

It comes off as MXSports not believing that their own reasoning was solid enough to explain so they needed a scapegoat to “blame”.

For the record, I think that they probably made a correct decision, I’m just disappointed that they published a false reason to justify that decision.
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JeepnMike wrote:
PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections" We are all speculating...
PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections"

We are all speculating what is actually going on, I will add my .02. Last week, local (Washington) news made a complete COVID mockery of what was going on at Sturgis (lots of video), painting a very large brush stroke of how awful these people are and how this is going to cause a national outbreak. Our state governor (Washougal is in WA, not OR) has been well known to knee jerk and WAY over react, especially during the pandemic which has been really unfair to those not living in Seattle and places with low infection rates (like Washougal), and he is also in an election cycle so he isn't going to let anything 'bad happen' on his watch. This is a televised event (thus the difference between the amateur races), and if you think we are going to have televised sporting events happening in WA at this moment, you are nuts. The televised mockery of Sturgis I guarantee you did not help.

We won't find anything at the local or state level that says anything about new restrictions, any new restrictions would be unwarranted. However, I am betting my tail a mix of what I noted above, our governor does not want any televised sports showing WA state taking a single remote risk, especially during the election cycle. WA, CA, OR governors have mirrored efforts and restrictions through this whole mess, I fully expect the same to happen for PALA.

APLMAN99 wrote:
But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”. That’s the point. Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of...
But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”.

That’s the point.

Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of the event being cancelled over the next 7-10 days, and live with it. As it’s written, there will be plenty of people who take it at face value and will believe that Inslee cancelled the event, which is simply not true.

It comes off as MXSports not believing that their own reasoning was solid enough to explain so they needed a scapegoat to “blame”.

For the record, I think that they probably made a correct decision, I’m just disappointed that they published a false reason to justify that decision.
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are being sincere about new unwritten restrictions, Inslee is an easy target. Like I said, speculation, but not far fetched with the decisions being made around here (and massive lack of honesty).

As disappointed as I am we aren't getting our race, I fully understand not wanting to have to travel coast to coast as originally planned. I 100% commend their efforts to make a series happen this year though, I was going nuts without racing to watch., It is pretty much all I watch on TV anymore.
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JeepnMike wrote:
PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections" We are all speculating...
PR states the reason as "However, based on newly imposed restrictions within the state of Washington as it relates to COVID-19 infections"

We are all speculating what is actually going on, I will add my .02. Last week, local (Washington) news made a complete COVID mockery of what was going on at Sturgis (lots of video), painting a very large brush stroke of how awful these people are and how this is going to cause a national outbreak. Our state governor (Washougal is in WA, not OR) has been well known to knee jerk and WAY over react, especially during the pandemic which has been really unfair to those not living in Seattle and places with low infection rates (like Washougal), and he is also in an election cycle so he isn't going to let anything 'bad happen' on his watch. This is a televised event (thus the difference between the amateur races), and if you think we are going to have televised sporting events happening in WA at this moment, you are nuts. The televised mockery of Sturgis I guarantee you did not help.

We won't find anything at the local or state level that says anything about new restrictions, any new restrictions would be unwarranted. However, I am betting my tail a mix of what I noted above, our governor does not want any televised sports showing WA state taking a single remote risk, especially during the election cycle. WA, CA, OR governors have mirrored efforts and restrictions through this whole mess, I fully expect the same to happen for PALA.

APLMAN99 wrote:
But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”. That’s the point. Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of...
But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”.

That’s the point.

Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of the event being cancelled over the next 7-10 days, and live with it. As it’s written, there will be plenty of people who take it at face value and will believe that Inslee cancelled the event, which is simply not true.

It comes off as MXSports not believing that their own reasoning was solid enough to explain so they needed a scapegoat to “blame”.

For the record, I think that they probably made a correct decision, I’m just disappointed that they published a false reason to justify that decision.
JeepnMike wrote:
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are...
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are being sincere about new unwritten restrictions, Inslee is an easy target. Like I said, speculation, but not far fetched with the decisions being made around here (and massive lack of honesty).

As disappointed as I am we aren't getting our race, I fully understand not wanting to have to travel coast to coast as originally planned. I 100% commend their efforts to make a series happen this year though, I was going nuts without racing to watch., It is pretty much all I watch on TV anymore.
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”.

Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we are happy with them or not.

There were no new restrictions enacted during the time frame alluded to in the press release.

Our Chamber of Commerce alone puts out updates every time there is a hint of a revision, and there were none mentioned during that time frame. A google search doesn’t turn up any revisions either.

It’s simply disappointing to see an organization that you like spread an untruth like this.
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We haven't had a national in almost 10 years in TX.
I said the same thing when the were trying to schedule this series. Freestone is still alive and kicking as it was when it was on the schedule
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There are probably underlying issues but in the end, it probably all boils down to how much of this you can make or not make or lose if they run another round at their home track or move to WA. Its all about medigating risk and what can happen in 6 days is an unknown at this point.

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I understand that there are no new restrictions but is it possible local authorities asked them to cancel?
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I understand that there are no new restrictions but is it possible local authorities asked them to cancel?
It’s not. The staff have been in contact with the local authorities the whole time
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The teams/riders probably asked for the change and I dont blame them. Mxsports is taking the heat for them. Lighten up folks we will at least have a 2 round series. Im grateful for the efforts.
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SKIDLID wrote:
I understand that there are no new restrictions but is it possible local authorities asked them to cancel?
Hudd_421 wrote:
It’s not. The staff have been in contact with the local authorities the whole time
This.

No speculating going on around here.
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8/16/2020 2:33pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2020 6:00pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”. That’s the point. Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of...
But there were no “newly imposed restrictions”.

That’s the point.

Just be honest, say that it isn’t worth the risk of traveling with the possibility of the event being cancelled over the next 7-10 days, and live with it. As it’s written, there will be plenty of people who take it at face value and will believe that Inslee cancelled the event, which is simply not true.

It comes off as MXSports not believing that their own reasoning was solid enough to explain so they needed a scapegoat to “blame”.

For the record, I think that they probably made a correct decision, I’m just disappointed that they published a false reason to justify that decision.
JeepnMike wrote:
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are...
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are being sincere about new unwritten restrictions, Inslee is an easy target. Like I said, speculation, but not far fetched with the decisions being made around here (and massive lack of honesty).

As disappointed as I am we aren't getting our race, I fully understand not wanting to have to travel coast to coast as originally planned. I 100% commend their efforts to make a series happen this year though, I was going nuts without racing to watch., It is pretty much all I watch on TV anymore.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”. Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we...
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”.

Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we are happy with them or not.

There were no new restrictions enacted during the time frame alluded to in the press release.

Our Chamber of Commerce alone puts out updates every time there is a hint of a revision, and there were none mentioned during that time frame. A google search doesn’t turn up any revisions either.

It’s simply disappointing to see an organization that you like spread an untruth like this.
You are making this sound black and white. Someone is lying.. You can trust MXSports or you can trust your local government. One one hand, I have no reason at all to not trust Davey or MXSports. On the other hand, you have a governor who has lied and misled his state to the point of potentially turning back to red after 35 years. I am going to give MXSports the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Either way, we will never know. Davey can either say "Yeah, we later realized how much of a pain in the ass that race would be so we canned it, even on a shortened schedule" Or alternatively, "that state is run by nuts.. When they realized a large scale sporting even was going to be televised from their state during a pandemic and election cycle, they freaked out and told us to cancel it". We have two options, none of which would be wise to disclose.

I may be wrong, we will probably never know. As I said in my original post, we are all just speculating while upset about it, this is just my theory and I trust Davey.
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Good. Why the hell would anyone want to go near Portland/Washington right now
Portland airport is nowhere near downtown and Seattle is at the opposite end of the state. You wouldn't catch anything but it is all pointless now.
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JeepnMike wrote:
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are...
Oh I understand what you are saying. Either they are being dishonest about the reasoning behind the cancellation, or I am likely correct. If they are being sincere about new unwritten restrictions, Inslee is an easy target. Like I said, speculation, but not far fetched with the decisions being made around here (and massive lack of honesty).

As disappointed as I am we aren't getting our race, I fully understand not wanting to have to travel coast to coast as originally planned. I 100% commend their efforts to make a series happen this year though, I was going nuts without racing to watch., It is pretty much all I watch on TV anymore.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”. Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we...
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”.

Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we are happy with them or not.

There were no new restrictions enacted during the time frame alluded to in the press release.

Our Chamber of Commerce alone puts out updates every time there is a hint of a revision, and there were none mentioned during that time frame. A google search doesn’t turn up any revisions either.

It’s simply disappointing to see an organization that you like spread an untruth like this.
JeepnMike wrote:
You are making this sound black and white. Someone is lying.. You can trust MXSports or you can trust your local government. One one hand, I...
You are making this sound black and white. Someone is lying.. You can trust MXSports or you can trust your local government. One one hand, I have no reason at all to not trust Davey or MXSports. On the other hand, you have a governor who has lied and misled his state to the point of potentially turning back to red after 35 years. I am going to give MXSports the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Either way, we will never know. Davey can either say "Yeah, we later realized how much of a pain in the ass that race would be so we canned it, even on a shortened schedule" Or alternatively, "that state is run by nuts.. When they realized a large scale sporting even was going to be televised from their state during a pandemic and election cycle, they freaked out and told us to cancel it". We have two options, none of which would be wise to disclose.

I may be wrong, we will probably never know. As I said in my original post, we are all just speculating while upset about it, this is just my theory and I trust Davey.
I understand wanting to trust MXSports, but there have been no new restrictions put in place.

This isn’t a political discussion involving Inslee, it’s a discussion about canceling a race and using a reason that doesn’t seem to hold up to even basic scrutiny.

Unless someone wants to provide what “new restrictions” were imposed from the morning they were talking about until the afternoon.

Let’s face it, this excuse was used because they didn’t think that they could explain the real reasoning to folks who wouldn’t want to hear their logic. It was just easier to find a scapegoat to “blame” it on.
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They should reschedule a round at Tomahawk MX in West Virginia. The owner, Chad has greatly increased parking ( including the ability to go across the road) and the track is really like by pro, vet and mini riders. .

West Virginia has managed the pandemic well and Chad has been able to get permits for big races, including a wildly popular LL Regional this year. When he's been tasked with pulling off a big race he's come thru..

Not to late to get something scheduled there.

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8/16/2020 6:07pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2020 6:08pm
planter wrote:
They should reschedule a round at Tomahawk MX in West Virginia. The owner, Chad has greatly increased parking ( including the ability to go across the...
They should reschedule a round at Tomahawk MX in West Virginia. The owner, Chad has greatly increased parking ( including the ability to go across the road) and the track is really like by pro, vet and mini riders. .

West Virginia has managed the pandemic well and Chad has been able to get permits for big races, including a wildly popular LL Regional this year. When he's been tasked with pulling off a big race he's come thru..

Not to late to get something scheduled there.

Not going to happen. If they have any more can cancellations, they will continue to do multiple events at venues they do not have problems with. Not to mention they would not start with a new promoter for a first time race with little or zero notice.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”. Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we...
I’m not sure what you mean by “unwritten restrictions”. There was no mention of “unwritten restrictions”.

Our state hasn’t had a problem writing restrictions, whether we are happy with them or not.

There were no new restrictions enacted during the time frame alluded to in the press release.

Our Chamber of Commerce alone puts out updates every time there is a hint of a revision, and there were none mentioned during that time frame. A google search doesn’t turn up any revisions either.

It’s simply disappointing to see an organization that you like spread an untruth like this.
JeepnMike wrote:
You are making this sound black and white. Someone is lying.. You can trust MXSports or you can trust your local government. One one hand, I...
You are making this sound black and white. Someone is lying.. You can trust MXSports or you can trust your local government. One one hand, I have no reason at all to not trust Davey or MXSports. On the other hand, you have a governor who has lied and misled his state to the point of potentially turning back to red after 35 years. I am going to give MXSports the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Either way, we will never know. Davey can either say "Yeah, we later realized how much of a pain in the ass that race would be so we canned it, even on a shortened schedule" Or alternatively, "that state is run by nuts.. When they realized a large scale sporting even was going to be televised from their state during a pandemic and election cycle, they freaked out and told us to cancel it". We have two options, none of which would be wise to disclose.

I may be wrong, we will probably never know. As I said in my original post, we are all just speculating while upset about it, this is just my theory and I trust Davey.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I understand wanting to trust MXSports, but there have been no new restrictions put in place. This isn’t a political discussion involving Inslee, it’s a discussion...
I understand wanting to trust MXSports, but there have been no new restrictions put in place.

This isn’t a political discussion involving Inslee, it’s a discussion about canceling a race and using a reason that doesn’t seem to hold up to even basic scrutiny.

Unless someone wants to provide what “new restrictions” were imposed from the morning they were talking about until the afternoon.

Let’s face it, this excuse was used because they didn’t think that they could explain the real reasoning to folks who wouldn’t want to hear their logic. It was just easier to find a scapegoat to “blame” it on.
This. 100%.

The fact that we're still racing this coming weekend- with a ton of entries and a $9000.00 (and growing) pro purse speaks VOLUMES about these "new sanctions/regulations"

That track is dialed in with one- way tunnels, marked parking and extensive signage everywhere- not to mention no contact registration as well as temp. checks upon entering the facility.

All staff is required to wear masks when riding in buggies or in close contact.

We were all more than ready to go racing.

Still going to.
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