Riding/racing MX and the risks...

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1/25/2019 6:25am
BikerScars wrote:
Wow, snowflakes everywhere.

Slow down and don't go for the triple if your not comfortable.
What a dumb reply.....

Not one place did I say anything about wanting to change the sport, change the tracks or expect others to share the same thoughts I had. I was simply wanting to see what everybody's opinions on it were. I'm sorry if talking rationally about stuff is over your head...EAD.


BTW, it's 'you're'...dummy!

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lostboy819 wrote:
I hit a moose on a snowmobile. Cool
I've never known moose to ride them! Tongue
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1/25/2019 6:57am Edited Date/Time 1/25/2019 11:05am
I'm not attempting to lessen the forested areas, but rather it is significantly more secure than mx as far as disastrous damage. The inconvenience is you become ill of it sooner or later and miss holding her open. https://xender.pro/ https://discord.software/ https://omegle.onl/
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1/25/2019 7:06am Edited Date/Time 1/25/2019 12:17pm
BikerScars wrote:
Wow, snowflakes everywhere.

Slow down and don't go for the triple if your not comfortable.
huck wrote:
What a dumb reply..... Not one place did I say anything about wanting to change the sport, change the tracks or expect others to share the...
What a dumb reply.....

Not one place did I say anything about wanting to change the sport, change the tracks or expect others to share the same thoughts I had. I was simply wanting to see what everybody's opinions on it were. I'm sorry if talking rationally about stuff is over your head...EAD.


BTW, it's 'you're'...dummy!

Agree! So everyone that isn't out there taking chances and riding over their heads is a snowflake. Sounds like a kid who can sit on mom's couch after he wads himself up and has no worries in life. For the vast majority of riders/racers out there, we need to get to work on Monday morning. That is a reality check.

The tracks are an issue. Natural terrain needs to come back. (Somehow the Euros have it right.) Last year a local track owner here in PA had to change his layout because a vintage organization refused to come back to his facility. Too jumpy and racers got hurt the previous year. It is one of his biggest weekends every year. Sometimes we need to be forced to make changes.
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1/25/2019 7:13am
This is a conversation that you need have with yourself before hand and be honest with yourself. If something does happen and you were not truly ok with what might happen, you're much more likely to be miserable if it does. I think for the most part, making sure the nut attached to the throttle is properly torqued goes a long way for safety.
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This is a conversation that you need have with yourself before hand and be honest with yourself. If something does happen and you were not truly...
This is a conversation that you need have with yourself before hand and be honest with yourself. If something does happen and you were not truly ok with what might happen, you're much more likely to be miserable if it does. I think for the most part, making sure the nut attached to the throttle is properly torqued goes a long way for safety.
This rings true on every word.

I'd also like to say ( and this goes for all vet guys 30+ and on up ) get your body in check before you even throw a leg over a bike. The older we get , the more important it becomes. Being some what healthy and fit before you ride not only helps your riding , but more importantly it helps protect you , when you hit the ground. Your body can handle the impacts a lot better , compared to just rolling off the couch. I swear by this rule more then anything else. And honestly.....it removes a lot of the " Risk " for us older guys.
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1/25/2019 8:39am
jeffro503 wrote:
This rings true on every word. I'd also like to say ( and this goes for all vet guys 30+ and on up ) get your...
This rings true on every word.

I'd also like to say ( and this goes for all vet guys 30+ and on up ) get your body in check before you even throw a leg over a bike. The older we get , the more important it becomes. Being some what healthy and fit before you ride not only helps your riding , but more importantly it helps protect you , when you hit the ground. Your body can handle the impacts a lot better , compared to just rolling off the couch. I swear by this rule more then anything else. And honestly.....it removes a lot of the " Risk " for us older guys.
Good point. A lot of crashes are caused partly due to fatigue too. I’m sure being out of shape/overweight effected me in both the cause of my crash and the sustained injuries.
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1/25/2019 9:20am
jeffro503 wrote:
This rings true on every word. I'd also like to say ( and this goes for all vet guys 30+ and on up ) get your...
This rings true on every word.

I'd also like to say ( and this goes for all vet guys 30+ and on up ) get your body in check before you even throw a leg over a bike. The older we get , the more important it becomes. Being some what healthy and fit before you ride not only helps your riding , but more importantly it helps protect you , when you hit the ground. Your body can handle the impacts a lot better , compared to just rolling off the couch. I swear by this rule more then anything else. And honestly.....it removes a lot of the " Risk " for us older guys.
nytsmaC wrote:
Good point. A lot of crashes are caused partly due to fatigue too. I’m sure being out of shape/overweight effected me in both the cause of...
Good point. A lot of crashes are caused partly due to fatigue too. I’m sure being out of shape/overweight effected me in both the cause of my crash and the sustained injuries.
How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better buddy.
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1/25/2019 9:22am Edited Date/Time 1/25/2019 9:24am
mina3500 wrote:
I'm not attempting to lessen the forested areas, but rather it is significantly more secure than mx as far as disastrous damage. The inconvenience is you...
I'm not attempting to lessen the forested areas, but rather it is significantly more secure than mx as far as disastrous damage. The inconvenience is you become ill of it sooner or later and miss holding her open. https://xender.pro/ https://discord.software/ https://omegle.onl/
I have ridden a lot of woods, there is plenty of hold it open if you gots the balls, + there is plenty of things to make you come to a complete stop. ,trees, rocks,stumps,etc
1/25/2019 9:23am
“Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once”.

William Shakespeare

“You can’t stop what’s coming. It ain’t all waiting on you. That’s vanity.”

Uncle Ellis (Barry Corbin) No Country for Old Men

Mostly I’m not a fatalist - what I’m trying to say is manage the risks as best as you can and do try to have some fun while doing so. You’ve only got so much time anyway.
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1/25/2019 9:33am
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How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better...
How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better buddy.
Doing good man, all things considered I really can’t complain much. Hope all is well with you too.
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1/25/2019 9:46am
I've always been slow, but at 34 I'm still trying to get faster. I try not to think about the consequences and if I'm on the fence about doing a jump, I usually don't. Just gotta be safe out there.

It's honestly why I love Glen Helen. Place gets bashed to hell for being unsafe when the reality is there's like 3 or 4 small (and very safe) jumps there on any given week and the rest is natural terrain. Such a blast to ride!

I want to ride until I'm too old to stand. People always say "there's nothing like it".... I agree. Spent 6 years off the bike due to financial reasons and it was the longest 6 years of my life.
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1/25/2019 9:52am
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1/25/2019 9:56am
jeffro503 wrote:
How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better...
How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better buddy.
nytsmaC wrote:
Doing good man, all things considered I really can’t complain much. Hope all is well with you too.
You still driving truck or did you get into sales ?
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1/25/2019 9:57am
jeffro503 wrote:
How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better...
How are you doing now Cam? Been meaning to check in with you. I know you went down pretty hard , and hope you're doing better buddy.
nytsmaC wrote:
Doing good man, all things considered I really can’t complain much. Hope all is well with you too.
Good to hear brother. Bummed me out when I heard you got banged up. Was hoping to hook up with you at Washougal again one day so we could go tear up some dirt together. Stay healthy man!
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1/25/2019 10:17am
Ever heard the saying "you gotta risk it to get the biscuit"?

In all seriousness, I am going to be getting back into riding here soon after nearly 8 years off the bike. I quit road racing for my family's sake at the age of 19. Then quit riding moto shortly after because without racing it didn't feel the same. So I gave up bikes completely. But for the past couple years I have been fighting not getting a bike again and am finally giving in. It's in my blood and I have this hole in my life I feel can't be replaced by any hobby or job. I've tried. But I am coming into it with the mindset of just getting out there and enjoy riding the bike and not going past my abilities. So in my mind I understand the risks of being on a bike itself, but am eliminating a lot of it personally by not having my pin it to win it mindset anymore and buying gear I feel comfortable with keeping me safe. Also riding tracks I'm comfortable with. If I show up to Perris one night and it's built up out of my comfort zone, Vet track here I come.

Although the risk will always be there, I feel you can manage it.
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1/25/2019 10:41am
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies, it's all part of the package. But once the bike clicks into gear, the brain does as well. It's that combination of physical and mental intensity that defines off-road motorcycle riding and racing. A rider's life becomes singularly focused on the task at hand, an orchestration of the body and mind, absorbing thousands of data points per second, and translating them into action. A perfect blend of physiological and psychological therapy, and the most addictive part of our sport.

Manipulating a mechanical marvel at high speeds through treacherous terrain in a competitive environment. There is no substitute.
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1/25/2019 11:02am
LoudLove wrote:
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies...
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies, it's all part of the package. But once the bike clicks into gear, the brain does as well. It's that combination of physical and mental intensity that defines off-road motorcycle riding and racing. A rider's life becomes singularly focused on the task at hand, an orchestration of the body and mind, absorbing thousands of data points per second, and translating them into action. A perfect blend of physiological and psychological therapy, and the most addictive part of our sport.

Manipulating a mechanical marvel at high speeds through treacherous terrain in a competitive environment. There is no substitute.
Hit the nail on the head.
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1/25/2019 11:05am
LoudLove wrote:
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies...
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies, it's all part of the package. But once the bike clicks into gear, the brain does as well. It's that combination of physical and mental intensity that defines off-road motorcycle riding and racing. A rider's life becomes singularly focused on the task at hand, an orchestration of the body and mind, absorbing thousands of data points per second, and translating them into action. A perfect blend of physiological and psychological therapy, and the most addictive part of our sport.

Manipulating a mechanical marvel at high speeds through treacherous terrain in a competitive environment. There is no substitute.
psg119 wrote:
Hit the nail on the head.
Yes and you get all that with outdoor mx. With outdoor sx you get all that plus a very stacked deck against you of do or die rhythms and one fraction of a mistake equals a helicopter ride out of the track.
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LoudLove wrote:
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies...
We have all been there: gearing up in the back of the truck, performing a mental checklist and trying to squelch negative thoughts. Sweaty palms, butterflies, it's all part of the package. But once the bike clicks into gear, the brain does as well. It's that combination of physical and mental intensity that defines off-road motorcycle riding and racing. A rider's life becomes singularly focused on the task at hand, an orchestration of the body and mind, absorbing thousands of data points per second, and translating them into action. A perfect blend of physiological and psychological therapy, and the most addictive part of our sport.

Manipulating a mechanical marvel at high speeds through treacherous terrain in a competitive environment. There is no substitute.
psg119 wrote:
Hit the nail on the head.
yz133rider wrote:
Yes and you get all that with outdoor mx. With outdoor sx you get all that plus a very stacked deck against you of do or...
Yes and you get all that with outdoor mx. With outdoor sx you get all that plus a very stacked deck against you of do or die rhythms and one fraction of a mistake equals a helicopter ride out of the track.
Do you guys have a lot of public SX tracks by you? I feel like we don't have any out here!
1/25/2019 11:58am
lostboy819 wrote:
I hit a moose on a snowmobile. Cool
MPJC wrote:
I've never known moose to ride them! Tongue
Exactly !!! I cant believe someone would sell a snowmobile to a moose in the first place. Pinch
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1/25/2019 12:37pm
lostboy819 wrote:
I hit a moose on a snowmobile. Cool
MPJC wrote:
I've never known moose to ride them! Tongue
lostboy819 wrote:
Exactly !!! I cant believe someone would sell a snowmobile to a moose in the first place. Pinch
I just pictured him walking up to a moose sitting on a snowmobile. the moose,maybe having a snack,trying to get wi fi or whatever. then boom! right hook to the moose face lol.
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1/25/2019 12:48pm
Trav138 wrote:
I would like to hear the opinions of guys who have life changing injuries from mx, and how they feel. I lost my lower right leg...
I would like to hear the opinions of guys who have life changing injuries from mx, and how they feel.
I lost my lower right leg due to a mx crash. i have asked myself that question a lot over the years, or i get asked that quetion when im struggling with certain things.
I have no regrets, it was worth it to me. Riding has been such a positive influence in my life, and i have valuable experiences from it. I take some solace that i got hurt doing what i loved, and it was my choice and what i wanted to do.

Edit*'i dont have kids and i think that family and income really influence people's decisions!
yes family is the biggest influence. It would be selfish of me if it wasn't. I broke my back cracked t3 and t4. fused 1-6 now. neck so sprained it grew lol green and purple. bruising of head and face.concussion etc. couldn't open my jaw fully. right arm went dead for 3 weeks. still not great. very lucky to get up and feel everything. pain is good. means it still works.6 days in trauma unit. tons of therapy still to go.busted ribs and kidney. honestly after all that pain. the worst is being a burden. if I was single and no kids. id load up asap. but im not and its awesome. I had 30 plus yrs of racing riding. im good. ride smooth boys.
1/25/2019 1:13pm
MPJC wrote:
I've never known moose to ride them! Tongue
lostboy819 wrote:
Exactly !!! I cant believe someone would sell a snowmobile to a moose in the first place. Pinch
I just pictured him walking up to a moose sitting on a snowmobile. the moose,maybe having a snack,trying to get wi fi or whatever. then boom...
I just pictured him walking up to a moose sitting on a snowmobile. the moose,maybe having a snack,trying to get wi fi or whatever. then boom! right hook to the moose face lol.
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1/25/2019 2:44pm
seth505 wrote:
If you do nothing with your life, you'll still die.
Sweetd31 wrote:
Yeah but no one got brain damage or spinal cord injury from wanking off on their couch all day either... at least I don’t think.
I heard you would go blind
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1/25/2019 3:12pm Edited Date/Time 1/25/2019 3:14pm
Touchy subject for sure. I have always struggled with this question when seeing other riders paralyzed. As that is my worst fear. I’d take death over that pretty much. When something like that does happen I like to figure out what kind of track they were on, how they were riding etc., try and learn from others mistakes if I can. Riding over my head has gotten me hurt more often than not. Arms pumped going for the glory so to speak. I try and stay as far away from that now as possible. It’s hard tho sometimes as I’m a very competitive person so you can really lose yourself out there racing with someone.

One thing is you can and will get hurt at some point. By being in really good shape and riding within your limits you can really limit a lot of the bigger get offs. There is always equipment malfunction or some idiot landing on your etc. but those are few and
far between if you don’t race much and keep on top of your maint.

One day we will all be laying on our deathbed. Most of us will have time to look back and reflect upon our lives. If we spent most of it in a wheel chair from a riding accident we may regret the hell out of that decision. On the other hand those that gave it up early out of fear of being injured badly may regret that decision also not having done something they truly loved. Guess the real question is do you really love it?? If so be smart about it and as safe as possible and enjoy it. There are plenty of dudes that have posted that are permanently injured that wouldn’t change anything. That should be a good enough answer for a lot of us.

How’d that quote go from Shawshank redemption “get busy living, or get busy dying”
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1/25/2019 3:34pm
When my Daughter was 10, she broke her tib/fib at the Des Moines ArenaCross. I wasn't sure if she would ever race again. We were eating at Chili's, and a waiter asked her what happened to her leg, she told him, he asked, will you ever race again, she replied, I would do it this weekend if I could. So, I knew it was worth it to her, so I was in. I'm happy to report, that after this she won multiple regional championships and made it to Loretta's 3 times. She still has a bike and is still a fan of our sport.
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mx317 wrote:
I wish others thought like this (as I do). I quit going to my closest MX track because it became an obstacle course instead of a...
I wish others thought like this (as I do). I quit going to my closest MX track because it became an obstacle course instead of a track. I'll drive 3 hours+ to ride a good track. There is no totally safe MX track, but be sensible with the prep and jumps and it will at least be safer.
I am 50, I have a wife, and kids and need to support them. I dont race. Dont really jump anything big either. Not worth the risk.

However, I do ride. Ride MX, Off-Road, ATV's, Harleys.

I cannot imagine not riding.
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1/25/2019 11:32pm
NvHermit wrote:
You still driving truck or did you get into sales ?
Still grinding gears. I was looking for a way out, thought it was a good opportunity to smash the reset button and try a different path but it was too easy to just slip back into my comfort zone in the trucking business as soon as I was able to. I’d sold most of the toys and the house was next up on the chopping block so I felt like I needed to get serious about getting back on my feet sooner rather than later.

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