Osborne Vs. Forkner

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kb228 3/3/2018 9:00pm
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osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out...
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out forkner a couple weeks ago. All scenerios could have gotten someone hurt.
agn5009 wrote:
You're gonna blame Osborne for cleaning out Savatgy on the last lap for a championship? Sounds like you're the dumbass.
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres no denying osborne is over aggressive - a lot. Regardless, injuries are prone in all scenerios. Roczen broke his hand in a corner.
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greenmx5 3/3/2018 9:02pm
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kb228 wrote:
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out...
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out forkner a couple weeks ago. All scenerios could have gotten someone hurt.
agn5009 wrote:
You're gonna blame Osborne for cleaning out Savatgy on the last lap for a championship? Sounds like you're the dumbass.
kb228 wrote:
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres...
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres no denying osborne is over aggressive - a lot. Regardless, injuries are prone in all scenerios. Roczen broke his hand in a corner.
It's never okay to cross jump. But rules in passing with two wheels on the ground go out the window when it comes to a championship in the last race of the season.
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agn5009 3/3/2018 9:06pm
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kb228 wrote:
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out...
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out forkner a couple weeks ago. All scenerios could have gotten someone hurt.
agn5009 wrote:
You're gonna blame Osborne for cleaning out Savatgy on the last lap for a championship? Sounds like you're the dumbass.
kb228 wrote:
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres...
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres no denying osborne is over aggressive - a lot. Regardless, injuries are prone in all scenerios. Roczen broke his hand in a corner.
When exactly did Osborne cross jump anyone? Osborne and Savatgy came together in a turn.

Either way, if it's for a championship you do whatever you need to do that's not going to seriously hurt yourself or anyone else. I'll still by my statement that you're a dumbass if you honestly believe what Osborne did to Savatgy for a championship was bad.
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kb228 3/3/2018 9:19pm
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agn5009 wrote:
You're gonna blame Osborne for cleaning out Savatgy on the last lap for a championship? Sounds like you're the dumbass.
kb228 wrote:
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres...
So if the forkner situation was for a title its OK to cross jump? I didnt say whats right or wrong. Karma is karma and theres no denying osborne is over aggressive - a lot. Regardless, injuries are prone in all scenerios. Roczen broke his hand in a corner.
agn5009 wrote:
When exactly did Osborne cross jump anyone? Osborne and Savatgy came together in a turn. Either way, if it's for a championship you do whatever you...
When exactly did Osborne cross jump anyone? Osborne and Savatgy came together in a turn.

Either way, if it's for a championship you do whatever you need to do that's not going to seriously hurt yourself or anyone else. I'll still by my statement that you're a dumbass if you honestly believe what Osborne did to Savatgy for a championship was bad.
Explain the other 20 scenerios then. Ill let you slide on that one. Is it OK for him to put ac over a berm in qualifying? AC got hauled off from that.

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JB479 3/3/2018 9:23pm
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Osborne must be sick of getting beat/passed by teenagers.
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GuyB wrote:
Austin had caught a Tuf-Blox with his brake pedal earlier in the race. He didn't have a rear brake.
colintrax wrote:
So? What's that gotta do with cross jumping?
brimx153 wrote:
X 2
Maybe he felt it would give him a little more room if he overjumped it? Maybe he tried to scrub it a little harder because he came in to fast which made him drift left a little? They were pretty quick with pointing at the brake after when Sach confronted them.

I don't recall if it was a tripple-double, tripple-tripple(probably would destroy my theory lol) or however they did it. But racing without a rear brake trying to go a little over your head can be sketchy

Still on him to not ride over his head without a rear brake but don't think it was intentional
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Dmcc 3/3/2018 9:30pm
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JB479 wrote:
Osborne must be sick of getting beat/passed by teenagers.
How many people did he pass in the 3rd main? I didn t seeany teenagers pass him. If he didn t go down in 3 rd main he would have smoked Forkners punk ass.
thatswhathappens 3/3/2018 9:34pm
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Obsorne is 27 and racing in the 250 class or the "rookie" class and gets mad about someone making a rookie mistake? Hmm.
lol
Squirrelings 3/3/2018 10:09pm
3/3/2018 10:09pm
Zack drifted out and Forkner cut back. Racing incident. The way Forkner's bike was pitched in the air made it appear like he may have cross rutted, but the face didn't look too bad in the replay.
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slipdog wrote:
Shit happens when you're racing kids, sometimes you get jammed up in that shit. Forkner fucked up and Osborne was too close and got caught up...

Shit happens when you're racing kids, sometimes you get jammed up in that shit. Forkner fucked up and Osborne was too close and got caught up in it. Shit happens sometimes. Forkner's fault, yes, but it wasn't intentional so just get on with the racing.
brimx153 wrote:
Imo that's was 100% Intentional
Dmcc wrote:
I agree totally
I disagree totally

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Yeah he should have let savatgy just coast to the championship after battling back from a first turn crash. He's such a dickhead. I bet he...
Yeah he should have let savatgy just coast to the championship after battling back from a first turn crash. He's such a dickhead. I bet he hurt savatgys feelings really bad too.
Please try that yourself next weekend and see how it works out...
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gnarwhip 3/3/2018 10:13pm
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Forkner had the inside line and Osborne should've let off. Osborne is over aggressive and it caught up with him.
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Excaliburbmx 3/3/2018 10:13pm
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Cross jumping when you are in front is not like a take out from behind. No way one is worse than the other.
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kkawboy14 3/3/2018 10:14pm
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JB479 wrote:
Osborne must be sick of getting beat/passed by teenagers.
He’s about to send the tapes into the tv show PUNKED!
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kb228 wrote:
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out...
osbornes dumbass is learning what karma is. Punted AC over a berm last year at indy - in qualifying, cleaned out savatgy at vegas, cleaned out forkner a couple weeks ago. All scenerios could have gotten someone hurt.
Fuck Off, great racing by both
Squirrelings 3/3/2018 10:15pm
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Forkner has a vendetta against Osborne because of the way their season started. We saw multiple times where he made comments saying essentially "I'm coming for...
Forkner has a vendetta against Osborne because of the way their season started. We saw multiple times where he made comments saying essentially "I'm coming for ya, Zach" in interviews with media. I think that's why he drifted over more aggressively than he would've with another rider.
And that's cool with me. Zack slammed his way to a title all season last year. Nice to see the competition not roll over.
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agn5009 wrote:
You're gonna blame Osborne for cleaning out Savatgy on the last lap for a championship? Sounds like you're the dumbass.
Osborne took out Forkner in the first round of the series. Crappy move by Forkner on the pay back but Osborne had it coming.
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JM485 3/3/2018 10:16pm
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I did not look intentional, but imo its probably not a bad idea to start cross jumping Osborne. Make him a little more cautious to try...
I did not look intentional, but imo its probably not a bad idea to start cross jumping Osborne. Make him a little more cautious to try and pass. (As dog of a move it is)
Not a bad idea to start cross jumping? Look, I don't care who anyone is or what championship they're involved in, cross jumping is just an awesome way to seriously hurt people and there's absolutely no place for it. Mistakes happen and that's probably what happened here, but to say anyone should do it on purpose is just as asinine as it comes, no amount of money or championship is worth that risk. At the end of the day it's a damn dirtbike race, we don't need even more guys carted off due to completely avoidable moves, it's not worth it.

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diz330 3/3/2018 10:34pm
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Osborne has no trouble bullying guys around the track but sure doesn't like it when someone turns the tables on him a little bit
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FastEddy 3/3/2018 10:36pm
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Zack drifted out and Forkner cut back. Racing incident. The way Forkner's bike was pitched in the air made it appear like he may have cross...
Zack drifted out and Forkner cut back. Racing incident. The way Forkner's bike was pitched in the air made it appear like he may have cross rutted, but the face didn't look too bad in the replay.
That's the way seen it too.
Not sure of Forkners riding style and if he was dragging the rear break in that section at all previous to the incident...But just a guess - Possibly Forkner had no rear break to drag to stay straight for the rut,it could've caused him to cross rut a bit (or it could be good excuse for a dirty move). Who knows?
Should be interesting to hear what they both say during the press conference about it.
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greenmx5 3/3/2018 10:43pm
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Yeah he should have let savatgy just coast to the championship after battling back from a first turn crash. He's such a dickhead. I bet he...
Yeah he should have let savatgy just coast to the championship after battling back from a first turn crash. He's such a dickhead. I bet he hurt savatgys feelings really bad too.
Paul333 wrote:
Please try that yourself next weekend and see how it works out...
Try what? My post was full on sarcasm
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Drtbykr 3/3/2018 10:43pm
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Forkner was setting up to guard the inside line of the corner, me thinks, who knows?

Forkner certainly shows world class speed at times.
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mmcmx 3/3/2018 10:49pm
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Have you ever jumped rutted ramps? Bunch of keyboard jockeys.
NorCalRedRyder 3/3/2018 11:01pm
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slipdog wrote:
Shit happens when you're racing kids, sometimes you get jammed up in that shit. Forkner fucked up and Osborne was too close and got caught up...

Shit happens when you're racing kids, sometimes you get jammed up in that shit. Forkner fucked up and Osborne was too close and got caught up in it. Shit happens sometimes. Forkner's fault, yes, but it wasn't intentional so just get on with the racing.
Agreed
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B DUB 333 3/3/2018 11:41pm
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1. Without a rear brake, he may have been taking a different entrance to the turn, trying to get it to work, who knows, riding at their level missing one if the brakes has got to be sketchy. 2. Forkner wasn't looking back, do we know he knew ozzy was there? I highly doubt it. 3. Everyone- cross jumps once in a while, watch the race. Sometimes it causes major problems, most times it doesn't. 4. The pass for the championship was dirty, he looked like a Cat D-11 pushing 100 yards of soil over a cliff, it wasn't a clean block pass. It was more like a nuclear powered torpedo. 5. We've all seen Forkner ride, I've never seen him ride dirty. 6. We've all seen Osborne ride, he's, let's say aggressive, sometimes overly. I think it was just a racing incident, and I think you guys are discounting his lack of a rear brake, that's a big dealio
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hamncheeze 3/3/2018 11:43pm
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For sure Forkner cross jumped him but Zach also moved right a tiny bit as well. I bet Forkner did not expect Zach to be where he ended up. Not defending the move at all. I like both guys, I am fine with good hard racing and some block passing that might result in some dirt sampling, but cross jumping and cutting over in the whoops is not cool.
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mingham97 3/3/2018 11:52pm
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I seriously do not think Forkner meant to have Osbourne land on him. He cross jumped a little, probbaly to tell Osbourne to back off. There not much to it
Finnish_Flash_62 3/3/2018 11:55pm
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That’s all on Forkner. He probably just tried to cover the inside going in to the next turn, but that’s not an excuse to cross jump like that.
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jstein639 3/4/2018 12:11am
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It looked to me like Forkner simply got cross-rutted on the transition so I don't really buy the argument that the rear brake caused the incident. In the highlight video you can see Forkner landed the first jump a little sideways at around the 2:00 minute mark, and it looked his front and rear wheel were slightly sideways from there onwards.

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