Malcolm?

11/6/2017 7:53am
mb60 wrote:
Funny to see all these post as if they are flat broke. The Stewart's might have been difficult to work with. But I take it as...
Funny to see all these post as if they are flat broke. The Stewart's might have been difficult to work with. But I take it as they were wise with the money James has made in the past. They don't seem to be asking for anything but to be left alone.
Big James was hard to work because he always wanted what was best for his boys, even though it bit him a few times you can't fault him for it.
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11/6/2017 10:22am
mb60 wrote:
Funny to see all these post as if they are flat broke. The Stewart's might have been difficult to work with. But I take it as...
Funny to see all these post as if they are flat broke. The Stewart's might have been difficult to work with. But I take it as they were wise with the money James has made in the past. They don't seem to be asking for anything but to be left alone.
UpTiTe wrote:
Big James was hard to work because he always wanted what was best for his boys, even though it bit him a few times you can't...
Big James was hard to work because he always wanted what was best for his boys, even though it bit him a few times you can't fault him for it.
Nope, not a bit. I'm sure Ryan Dungey's Dad, Ken Roczens Dad, Eli Tomac's Dad & the fathers of all the top riders want what's best for their sons. I have seen him in a pit shirt in tons of photos of either one of his sons, with the logo of whatever team they were on at the time...so Big James is probably very visible and hands-on. That might not be cool with some teams, as they have team managers paid to run the show.
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James and Big James are hard to satisfy because James can ride faster than any bike can handle. As a result they get a bit lost in bike setup.
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11/6/2017 10:54am
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James and Big James are hard to satisfy because James can ride faster than any bike can handle. As a result they get a bit lost...
James and Big James are hard to satisfy because James can ride faster than any bike can handle. As a result they get a bit lost in bike setup.
Seemed like Ferry doing testing help was a big benefit for James.

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"Gulfstream" at 2 p.m.-----on any Tuesday.

EDIT: ...or Javier's any time of the week.
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Not seeing Malcolm show his potential on a 450 is a bummer. I always felt like that was where he would shine. Good personality too, you would think he would be a sponsors dream, kind of like KRoc.
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11/6/2017 1:43pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
James and Big James are hard to satisfy because James can ride faster than any bike can handle. As a result they get a bit lost...
James and Big James are hard to satisfy because James can ride faster than any bike can handle. As a result they get a bit lost in bike setup.
imoto34 wrote:
Seemed like Ferry doing testing help was a big benefit for James.
The problem is they get it “fixed”, James likes it for 2 laps, turns the wick up faster, then thinks it’s broken again!
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11/6/2017 6:01pm
The real question that everyone is afraid to ask is would he have a ride if he was white? We the good ole boy culture, it...
The real question that everyone is afraid to ask is would he have a ride if he was white? We the good ole boy culture, it really makes me wonder if it doesn't play in at least to a small degree. Look at guys like Weimer and Barcia that seemed to really land rides better than they deserved at times based only on results.
^^ 100% This I'm afraid
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11/6/2017 6:44pm
The real question that everyone is afraid to ask is would he have a ride if he was white? We the good ole boy culture, it...
The real question that everyone is afraid to ask is would he have a ride if he was white? We the good ole boy culture, it really makes me wonder if it doesn't play in at least to a small degree. Look at guys like Weimer and Barcia that seemed to really land rides better than they deserved at times based only on results.
PFitzG38 wrote:
^^ 100% This I'm afraid
Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the other off season events doesn't help.

He did put effort in putting a team together to go racing but in my opinion he should have done things on a much smaller scale like Wilson did. Had he done things that way he could have saved money which in turn would of allowed him to race some of the outdoor rounds. He did 15 SX races in 2017 and finished 15th overall with his best result being a 9th in St. Louis. His average finish was 15th. The last time Malcolm rode outdoors was 2014 and he did 7 races (450). Sure he won a regional SX title but he's a 450 rider now and he doesn't exactly have the greatest stats.

Then there's the fact that he had 7-8 months to get in really good shape which he failed to do. That alone shows that he's not fully commited. He's got one of the best riding facilities out there so he's got no excuses.

Ignoring calls and text messages for a month from a legit team like MCR who's got factory support is not a good way to go about business.

I understand that Malcolm maybe wants to be on a team with James but at one point or another he needs to think about himself and his career if he really wants to do this for a living.

He's obviously made money winning the regional SX title but at his age he's far from being set for life. It's known that the average payout for a 250 SX title is 500k, add in taxes and it's easy to see that he's far from being "set". Obviously James has made a lot of money and he might be okay with supporting the entire family. That's something we'll never know and frankly doesn't concern any of us. They seem to be a really close family so it's not that far fetched that James could be completely okay with it.

As for Barcia and Weimer having rides, well they put in the effort and line up. Weimer is a low-key guy with no drama and he works hard. Barcia might not of had the best results these past few years but he's a high profile rider and has a good following. Malcolm also has a big following but there's no denying having big James around does not help his case.
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Mookie would make SX and MX more exciting but only if he is in it to win it. Maybe do what Dean Wilson did. Hell he could race out of a van or pick up if needed. Just need a good bike, Mookie in good shape and that he really wants to win. I would think he could get sponsors to help out with product. Or just go fishing if he wants too and have fun. It is up to Mookie, not Vital what he decides to do. Remember what Dungey said "It is only a dirt bike race".
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11/6/2017 9:52pm
Free The Stewarts! Come on someone has the real story on their 2018 deals!? Someone will spill the beans soon and break the internet!

Does anyone know the truth?
11/6/2017 10:17pm
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Free The Stewarts! Come on someone has the real story on their 2018 deals!? Someone will spill the beans soon and break the internet! Does anyone...
Free The Stewarts! Come on someone has the real story on their 2018 deals!? Someone will spill the beans soon and break the internet!

Does anyone know the truth?
I think the truth is James won't race and Malcolm might race. It's November now, just about two months from the opener, and while there is definitely still time to get something together, things would need to start moving awfully fast, and I just don't see it.
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Mookie is training and riding.. so he is putting work in like others but people still talk sh.t about just fishing. He is racing 2018 and that is good news for fans.
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11/7/2017 3:14am
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Mookie is training and riding.. so he is putting work in like others but people still talk sh.t about just fishing. He is racing 2018 and...
Mookie is training and riding.. so he is putting work in like others but people still talk sh.t about just fishing. He is racing 2018 and that is good news for fans.
Mookie is done.
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11/7/2017 5:41am Edited Date/Time 11/7/2017 5:42am
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Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the...
Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the other off season events doesn't help.

He did put effort in putting a team together to go racing but in my opinion he should have done things on a much smaller scale like Wilson did. Had he done things that way he could have saved money which in turn would of allowed him to race some of the outdoor rounds. He did 15 SX races in 2017 and finished 15th overall with his best result being a 9th in St. Louis. His average finish was 15th. The last time Malcolm rode outdoors was 2014 and he did 7 races (450). Sure he won a regional SX title but he's a 450 rider now and he doesn't exactly have the greatest stats.

Then there's the fact that he had 7-8 months to get in really good shape which he failed to do. That alone shows that he's not fully commited. He's got one of the best riding facilities out there so he's got no excuses.

Ignoring calls and text messages for a month from a legit team like MCR who's got factory support is not a good way to go about business.

I understand that Malcolm maybe wants to be on a team with James but at one point or another he needs to think about himself and his career if he really wants to do this for a living.

He's obviously made money winning the regional SX title but at his age he's far from being set for life. It's known that the average payout for a 250 SX title is 500k, add in taxes and it's easy to see that he's far from being "set". Obviously James has made a lot of money and he might be okay with supporting the entire family. That's something we'll never know and frankly doesn't concern any of us. They seem to be a really close family so it's not that far fetched that James could be completely okay with it.

As for Barcia and Weimer having rides, well they put in the effort and line up. Weimer is a low-key guy with no drama and he works hard. Barcia might not of had the best results these past few years but he's a high profile rider and has a good following. Malcolm also has a big following but there's no denying having big James around does not help his case.
Maverick nailed it. I agree with everything you wrote.
11/7/2017 7:59am
The real question that everyone is afraid to ask is would he have a ride if he was white? We the good ole boy culture, it...
The real question that everyone is afraid to ask is would he have a ride if he was white? We the good ole boy culture, it really makes me wonder if it doesn't play in at least to a small degree. Look at guys like Weimer and Barcia that seemed to really land rides better than they deserved at times based only on results.
Stupid.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the...
Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the other off season events doesn't help.

He did put effort in putting a team together to go racing but in my opinion he should have done things on a much smaller scale like Wilson did. Had he done things that way he could have saved money which in turn would of allowed him to race some of the outdoor rounds. He did 15 SX races in 2017 and finished 15th overall with his best result being a 9th in St. Louis. His average finish was 15th. The last time Malcolm rode outdoors was 2014 and he did 7 races (450). Sure he won a regional SX title but he's a 450 rider now and he doesn't exactly have the greatest stats.

Then there's the fact that he had 7-8 months to get in really good shape which he failed to do. That alone shows that he's not fully commited. He's got one of the best riding facilities out there so he's got no excuses.

Ignoring calls and text messages for a month from a legit team like MCR who's got factory support is not a good way to go about business.

I understand that Malcolm maybe wants to be on a team with James but at one point or another he needs to think about himself and his career if he really wants to do this for a living.

He's obviously made money winning the regional SX title but at his age he's far from being set for life. It's known that the average payout for a 250 SX title is 500k, add in taxes and it's easy to see that he's far from being "set". Obviously James has made a lot of money and he might be okay with supporting the entire family. That's something we'll never know and frankly doesn't concern any of us. They seem to be a really close family so it's not that far fetched that James could be completely okay with it.

As for Barcia and Weimer having rides, well they put in the effort and line up. Weimer is a low-key guy with no drama and he works hard. Barcia might not of had the best results these past few years but he's a high profile rider and has a good following. Malcolm also has a big following but there's no denying having big James around does not help his case.
Good response and it all makes sense. No doubt James lost some desire along the way and I could be completely wrong but I just feel somewhere along the line James just got fed up with the slight racist overtones not only in the sport but in the entire country - and now he has enough Fu*k You money to do what he wants, which turns out to be not riding motorcycles - I just have to ask why, you would think if he really wanted to race he could put something together.

He could possibly be misconstruing aversion to James Sr as something else. I couldn't even pinpoint anything or ever heard JS7 say anything right out - however I swear I've heard him and Mookie allude to it and cut themselves off - like its something they don't want to talk about. I know they see everyone as the same with their helmets on but what do they think people think of them - especially with all the bullshit and overt racism he has had to put up with from some of the hillbilly's at the tracks in the south?

Either way I'm bummed for the sitch. I don't feel he got the respect he deserved - I also feel he was taken advantage of for marketing purposes. I wish he was a little easier to work with and I'm bummed he's not into it and bringing alot onto himself, and I'm bummed he got taken out by Dungey.
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We want mookie

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11/7/2017 12:19pm
davistld01 wrote:
You know...if I was a major team, or a strong sponsor-driven team manager...and had a spot open and a bike, I'd go after one or both...
You know...if I was a major team, or a strong sponsor-driven team manager...and had a spot open and a bike, I'd go after one or both of the Stewarts with a vengeance...especially JS7. Why? Even if James can't break the top-5, and Mookie lingers in the lower-half of the pack each race...the autograph lines will still be down the block, every moto-zine on the rack will have the story on their covers & will be shooting videos where the team logo will be clearly displayed, and there will be a huge buzz over just the fact that one of the Stewarts is racing, as well as the team that snagged him. Bottom line...win, lose or draw...my team colors and name will get MAJOR traction that money can't buy!

I'll always remember the time, several years ago, when I was in the press section at the Houston SX with a friend of mine (who was legitimate press) and was conversing with a guy who I was told was a top guy for Feld. The subject of James Stewart came up and what he meant to SX racing, and the guy told me that in Feld's estimation James Stewart was the most influential ticket draw ever. People would buy tickets based on whether JS7 was racing or not. They figured he would either win or crash trying...and either way, he would put it all out there, and that made for exciement.

Whether that was/is true, or complete BS...I'd love to see one or both of the guys out there and swinging for the fence. Like so many have said...our sport is better with the Stewart brothers on the track.
Thought this thread was about Mr. Smith ... Do u think it did Suzuki any good, or just waste a lot of their moolah ???
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11/9/2017 7:03am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the...
Don't think skin color has anything to do with him not having a ride. Lining up for half the races out of 29 not counting the other off season events doesn't help.

He did put effort in putting a team together to go racing but in my opinion he should have done things on a much smaller scale like Wilson did. Had he done things that way he could have saved money which in turn would of allowed him to race some of the outdoor rounds. He did 15 SX races in 2017 and finished 15th overall with his best result being a 9th in St. Louis. His average finish was 15th. The last time Malcolm rode outdoors was 2014 and he did 7 races (450). Sure he won a regional SX title but he's a 450 rider now and he doesn't exactly have the greatest stats.

Then there's the fact that he had 7-8 months to get in really good shape which he failed to do. That alone shows that he's not fully commited. He's got one of the best riding facilities out there so he's got no excuses.

Ignoring calls and text messages for a month from a legit team like MCR who's got factory support is not a good way to go about business.

I understand that Malcolm maybe wants to be on a team with James but at one point or another he needs to think about himself and his career if he really wants to do this for a living.

He's obviously made money winning the regional SX title but at his age he's far from being set for life. It's known that the average payout for a 250 SX title is 500k, add in taxes and it's easy to see that he's far from being "set". Obviously James has made a lot of money and he might be okay with supporting the entire family. That's something we'll never know and frankly doesn't concern any of us. They seem to be a really close family so it's not that far fetched that James could be completely okay with it.

As for Barcia and Weimer having rides, well they put in the effort and line up. Weimer is a low-key guy with no drama and he works hard. Barcia might not of had the best results these past few years but he's a high profile rider and has a good following. Malcolm also has a big following but there's no denying having big James around does not help his case.
You nailed it. I'm not 100% on the racial side of things. I think the impression some people have of Big James might inhibit some things. But anyone that has ever actually talked to him knows he is a nice guy and cares deeply about his boys. Have to respect him for that.

It's hard to know for sure, but based on what Genova said it seems like Malcolm had at least one opportunity but it fell through. It sure sounds like James is the one screwing him up. But who knows. This poor horse has been beat to hell and back. When do we give up? A1? Daytona? Hangtown? MEC? RBSR? Will we ever know?

Logic tells me Malcolm will show up after a few rounds in a similar rig and on a similar bike as last year. I'd imagine that Suzuki was chosen because of the availability of good parts left over? No idea. Sure hope he is back out there.
11/9/2017 8:22am
davistld01 wrote:
You know...if I was a major team, or a strong sponsor-driven team manager...and had a spot open and a bike, I'd go after one or both...
You know...if I was a major team, or a strong sponsor-driven team manager...and had a spot open and a bike, I'd go after one or both of the Stewarts with a vengeance...especially JS7. Why? Even if James can't break the top-5, and Mookie lingers in the lower-half of the pack each race...the autograph lines will still be down the block, every moto-zine on the rack will have the story on their covers & will be shooting videos where the team logo will be clearly displayed, and there will be a huge buzz over just the fact that one of the Stewarts is racing, as well as the team that snagged him. Bottom line...win, lose or draw...my team colors and name will get MAJOR traction that money can't buy!

I'll always remember the time, several years ago, when I was in the press section at the Houston SX with a friend of mine (who was legitimate press) and was conversing with a guy who I was told was a top guy for Feld. The subject of James Stewart came up and what he meant to SX racing, and the guy told me that in Feld's estimation James Stewart was the most influential ticket draw ever. People would buy tickets based on whether JS7 was racing or not. They figured he would either win or crash trying...and either way, he would put it all out there, and that made for exciement.

Whether that was/is true, or complete BS...I'd love to see one or both of the guys out there and swinging for the fence. Like so many have said...our sport is better with the Stewart brothers on the track.
magoo1982 wrote:
Thought this thread was about Mr. Smith ... Do u think it did Suzuki any good, or just waste a lot of their moolah ???
I think people have a hard time separating Malcolm from James. I went a lot of supercross races this year and stood and talked to Malcolm on several occasions because his line was non existent.

I like the kid a lot, but he is far from the draw James is/was.
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11/9/2017 8:25am
I'm so sick of people throwing out the race card. It has zero to do with James or Malcolm not having a ride. James, Sonia, and Big James for sure have come in contact with some racists, it's been documented. I've only been to west coast races so I've never seen it but I have no doubt it exists. But as for the industry and hardcore fans, come on. We watched him grow up, we watched his first crush on Dee Dee Burns. For any negative from some random industry person, there's ten who have gone above and beyond to make sure they weren't being. I lived in a very segregated, racist East Bay town for the first 10 years of my life. It wasn't the south but I know what it looks like.

They are in the position they are for a few different reasons.

1: James wouldn't slow down. The guy is crazy talented, he should own every record in the book with the length of time his career has lasted. Had he managed, and kept the injuries down he put in 5 or 6 seasons years longer than RC(assuming that today he announced his retirement).

2: They believed the hype, Ralph had a lot to do with this but he isn't the only one, I think the fanboys put a lot of pressure on James. The whole FMOTP thing which was pushed from lots of people but hardest on the broadcast I believe put James in a position to try and live up to it every time. Fact is, James was never that much faster than the comp 90% of the time. There were those moments, but day to day he was a tick faster or a tick slower, be it Reed, RV, RD or any of the others who had their moment. When he was a tick slower he wouldn't take that, he rode over his head until he crashed. He wasn't ever going to beat RC for the big prize, he's not of this planet.

3: Big James was a little much, this has nothing to do with color. Same with Tony Alessi and others, they love their sons, they brought them to that point and it's hard to let go. Happens in every sport, motocross is just less structured than just about anything else which allows parents more access. Name one stick and ball sport where friends and family interact with the athlete during the pregame and game.

4: As for Malcolm, I love the hell out of the guy and I really wish he wanted it but I don't believe he ever did. I think his career is 100% the doing of Big James. I don't doubt that he loves to ride motorcycles and all the perks that come along but I don't believe deep down he wants it like a Reed, Dungey, Musquin, etc.

James is done, let it be unless you see a press release directly from him. I hope he doesn't try a comeback because I don't think it will end well. He's got a child(ren) who needs him to be a father.

Malcolm, I'd love to see him out there this year but the industry doesn't owe him anything until he proves he wants it.
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11/9/2017 8:32am
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I'm so sick of people throwing out the race card. It has zero to do with James or Malcolm not having a ride. James, Sonia, and...
I'm so sick of people throwing out the race card. It has zero to do with James or Malcolm not having a ride. James, Sonia, and Big James for sure have come in contact with some racists, it's been documented. I've only been to west coast races so I've never seen it but I have no doubt it exists. But as for the industry and hardcore fans, come on. We watched him grow up, we watched his first crush on Dee Dee Burns. For any negative from some random industry person, there's ten who have gone above and beyond to make sure they weren't being. I lived in a very segregated, racist East Bay town for the first 10 years of my life. It wasn't the south but I know what it looks like.

They are in the position they are for a few different reasons.

1: James wouldn't slow down. The guy is crazy talented, he should own every record in the book with the length of time his career has lasted. Had he managed, and kept the injuries down he put in 5 or 6 seasons years longer than RC(assuming that today he announced his retirement).

2: They believed the hype, Ralph had a lot to do with this but he isn't the only one, I think the fanboys put a lot of pressure on James. The whole FMOTP thing which was pushed from lots of people but hardest on the broadcast I believe put James in a position to try and live up to it every time. Fact is, James was never that much faster than the comp 90% of the time. There were those moments, but day to day he was a tick faster or a tick slower, be it Reed, RV, RD or any of the others who had their moment. When he was a tick slower he wouldn't take that, he rode over his head until he crashed. He wasn't ever going to beat RC for the big prize, he's not of this planet.

3: Big James was a little much, this has nothing to do with color. Same with Tony Alessi and others, they love their sons, they brought them to that point and it's hard to let go. Happens in every sport, motocross is just less structured than just about anything else which allows parents more access. Name one stick and ball sport where friends and family interact with the athlete during the pregame and game.

4: As for Malcolm, I love the hell out of the guy and I really wish he wanted it but I don't believe he ever did. I think his career is 100% the doing of Big James. I don't doubt that he loves to ride motorcycles and all the perks that come along but I don't believe deep down he wants it like a Reed, Dungey, Musquin, etc.

James is done, let it be unless you see a press release directly from him. I hope he doesn't try a comeback because I don't think it will end well. He's got a child(ren) who needs him to be a father.

Malcolm, I'd love to see him out there this year but the industry doesn't owe him anything until he proves he wants it.
WTF Randy?!???!?! don't be bringing reality and facts and common sense to a stewart thread........you new here?!??!Whistling Whistling
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11/9/2017 12:34pm
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I'm so sick of people throwing out the race card. It has zero to do with James or Malcolm not having a ride. James, Sonia, and...
I'm so sick of people throwing out the race card. It has zero to do with James or Malcolm not having a ride. James, Sonia, and Big James for sure have come in contact with some racists, it's been documented. I've only been to west coast races so I've never seen it but I have no doubt it exists. But as for the industry and hardcore fans, come on. We watched him grow up, we watched his first crush on Dee Dee Burns. For any negative from some random industry person, there's ten who have gone above and beyond to make sure they weren't being. I lived in a very segregated, racist East Bay town for the first 10 years of my life. It wasn't the south but I know what it looks like.

They are in the position they are for a few different reasons.

1: James wouldn't slow down. The guy is crazy talented, he should own every record in the book with the length of time his career has lasted. Had he managed, and kept the injuries down he put in 5 or 6 seasons years longer than RC(assuming that today he announced his retirement).

2: They believed the hype, Ralph had a lot to do with this but he isn't the only one, I think the fanboys put a lot of pressure on James. The whole FMOTP thing which was pushed from lots of people but hardest on the broadcast I believe put James in a position to try and live up to it every time. Fact is, James was never that much faster than the comp 90% of the time. There were those moments, but day to day he was a tick faster or a tick slower, be it Reed, RV, RD or any of the others who had their moment. When he was a tick slower he wouldn't take that, he rode over his head until he crashed. He wasn't ever going to beat RC for the big prize, he's not of this planet.

3: Big James was a little much, this has nothing to do with color. Same with Tony Alessi and others, they love their sons, they brought them to that point and it's hard to let go. Happens in every sport, motocross is just less structured than just about anything else which allows parents more access. Name one stick and ball sport where friends and family interact with the athlete during the pregame and game.

4: As for Malcolm, I love the hell out of the guy and I really wish he wanted it but I don't believe he ever did. I think his career is 100% the doing of Big James. I don't doubt that he loves to ride motorcycles and all the perks that come along but I don't believe deep down he wants it like a Reed, Dungey, Musquin, etc.

James is done, let it be unless you see a press release directly from him. I hope he doesn't try a comeback because I don't think it will end well. He's got a child(ren) who needs him to be a father.

Malcolm, I'd love to see him out there this year but the industry doesn't owe him anything until he proves he wants it.
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WTF Randy?!???!?! don't be bringing reality and facts and common sense to a stewart thread........you new here?!??!Whistling Whistling
First week, sorry.
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11/9/2017 1:44pm Edited Date/Time 11/9/2017 1:46pm
Very segregated east bay town?

There is nothing tough about the towns here. But please continue painting that picture so that it can fit your story. Silly

If you don't mean the east bay area (SF), then carry on..


The Stews are a marketing machine. All they have to do is be silent, and they garner the most interest.
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11/9/2017 3:38pm
norcal3737 wrote:
Very segregated east bay town? There is nothing tough about the towns here. But please continue painting that picture so that it can fit your story...
Very segregated east bay town?

There is nothing tough about the towns here. But please continue painting that picture so that it can fit your story. Silly

If you don't mean the east bay area (SF), then carry on..


The Stews are a marketing machine. All they have to do is be silent, and they garner the most interest.
Vallejo 1962-1972. My street had a line of demarcation, north side of Springs Rd was white, south side of Springs Rd was black. My school was 100% white, at least every class picture I have is despite being one block from Springs Rd. I was told never to cross the street because that's where the coloreds were. If that offends anyone I'm sorry, there are worse words the kids on our street heard, I used the most harmless one to make a point. A few years after moving 30 miles away one of those kids who lived not far from me but that I would never have known became one of my best friends and business partner. My parents and from what I know of most of the parents on our street eventually came around and lost the bulk of it. I know my parents later on had black friends, and I never heard anything from them in later years but that's not how they were raised, that's not the world they grew up in. I'm not writing all this to try to prove to anyone "look at me, I'm not a racist, I have a black friend". Because I could care less what anyone thinks. Like I said, it wasn't the south but I've seen plenty of it, it has really made me strive to not have it around me. It still exists on both sides to some extent but it has nothing to do with either of the Stewarts struggling to find a ride.
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11/9/2017 4:04pm
"Stewarts fill seats and raise click counts"

19,000 views and counting. Who the hell would want to be his sponsor?

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11/9/2017 4:19pm
I think I remember Mickaël Pichon's dad wasn't exactly a favorite over at Honda.
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11/9/2017 4:45pm
"Stewarts fill seats and raise click counts"

19,000 views and counting. Who the hell would want to be his sponsor?

obviously no one or this thread wouldn't be hereWoohoo Woohoo Woohoo

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