Stewart did nothing wrong. Wrong place at the wrong time

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bultokid 2/28/2016 8:34am
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Watching Stewart now reminds me of watching my idol, Willie Mays, towards the end of his career
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Excaliburbmx 2/28/2016 8:47am
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early wrote:
If you watch the whole last 2 laps again, the blue flags are out in front of stewart in the turn before the triple FOUR STRAIGHTS...
If you watch the whole last 2 laps again, the blue flags are out in front of stewart in the turn before the triple FOUR STRAIGHTS BEFORE THE TURN IN QUESTION. This was a case of Stewart not wanting to get lapped then getting caught at the worst time in the whoops after the start. Also if you watch a bit more of the race Musquins line going into that triple on the laps before was the exact line Stewart was in. Yeah Marvin made the mistake but Stewart should not have been there, Marvin was putting it all on the line to win and didnt know what the fuck Stewart was thinking or where he was gonna go.
That's what I seen as well.
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Jimmy_Sloan 2/28/2016 9:04am
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fgb729 wrote:
The only nonsense here is the people who are defending Stewart. If this was a no name rider people would be flipping their lids.
People are flipping their lids if you haven't noticed. I'm not defending Stewart, I'm pointing out that every rider out there has made judgement errors on the track. However, when it comes to Stewart, it tends to be an opportunity for his non-fans to take some cheap shots at the guy.
ToolMaker 2/28/2016 9:10am
2/28/2016 9:10am
Who would have thought we would be talking about Stewart
having to learn the etiquette of being a back marker? Not me.
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burnside 2/28/2016 9:22am
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Here's a question...

Has James Stewart EVER been straight up lapped in a race before?
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mxb2 2/28/2016 9:24am
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burnside wrote:
Here's a question...

Has James Stewart EVER been straight up lapped in a race before?
Millville? Rc lapped the field, The Goat.
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ATKpilot99 2/28/2016 9:34am
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burnside wrote:
Here's a question...

Has James Stewart EVER been straight up lapped in a race before?
mxb2 wrote:
Millville? Rc lapped the field, The Goat.
That was a mud bog. I think he's asking if he's ever been lapped in normal conditions without having gone down or having any other issues and while I'm not sure I think the answer to that is probably no.
ToolMaker 2/28/2016 9:35am
2/28/2016 9:35am
burnside wrote:
Here's a question...

Has James Stewart EVER been straight up lapped in a race before?
mxb2 wrote:
Millville? Rc lapped the field, The Goat.
I'm guessing he meant without such a big mistake he went down.
However if the made the mistake that he went down it can still
be said that it was straight up. IE: take the position that had the rider
not been riding over his head he wouldn't have gone down or riding
fast enough to be where he was.
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Flip109 2/28/2016 9:46am
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He's bubbles. He doesn't know what being lapped is. Lol he was racing them a bit hard I think, not wanting to go a lap down. But at that point he had gotten out of the way to the inside. If anything he was blocking dungey's line and preventing a pass on Marvin. Then Marvin fucked up the section almost taking them all to the gutter. However I can see the point of some people that Stewart should have let them by sooner. Anyways we can bitch about it till we are blue in the face but it won't change it. If Marvin wasn't dungey's buddy/training partner/teammate, I think Dungey would have already passed him at that point.
travist198 2/28/2016 10:00am
2/28/2016 10:00am
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Steward clearly held his line, which is what you're supposed to do on a blue flag, not stop in the middle of the track. What more...
Steward clearly held his line, which is what you're supposed to do on a blue flag, not stop in the middle of the track. What more could he have done?
Umm, roll in through the whoops, roll inside the turns and let the leaders pass than continue racing. It's just proper etiquette.
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mxb2 2/28/2016 10:19am
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burnside wrote:
Here's a question...

Has James Stewart EVER been straight up lapped in a race before?
mxb2 wrote:
Millville? Rc lapped the field, The Goat.
ToolMaker wrote:
I'm guessing he meant without such a big mistake he went down. However if the made the mistake that he went down it can still be...
I'm guessing he meant without such a big mistake he went down.
However if the made the mistake that he went down it can still
be said that it was straight up. IE: take the position that had the rider
not been riding over his head he wouldn't have gone down or riding
fast enough to be where he was.
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Yea, i guess i didnt read that part, where he posted that .lol. All races are straight up.
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SmokinJoe439 2/28/2016 10:26am
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some seriously blind in denial js fans on here you can clearly see him pick up his pass once the leaders come around and he failed to yield. I hope he gets fined that was some stupid rookie bs there. I'm sure if it would been the other way around yall be screaming for mm's head blaming him for costing js the win - hypocrites.
Dan-The-Man 2/28/2016 10:31am
2/28/2016 10:31am
To the people saying Stewart should retire because of a 14th place finish. It's his first full race in how long? Let's not forget Chad Reeds 12th last week. Are you saying they should both retire? Reed has been on the bike all year.

As for what happened. Stew held his line as he should have. Should he have slowed up and let them by? Yea.
You can't blame Stew for MM going for the triple and casing it. That was his fault.


People listen to DV? All I ever remember is his slap fight.

https://youtu.be/L2EyqdAxAZg
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burnside 2/28/2016 10:50am
2/28/2016 10:50am
burnside wrote:
Here's a question...

Has James Stewart EVER been straight up lapped in a race before?
mxb2 wrote:
Millville? Rc lapped the field, The Goat.
ToolMaker wrote:
I'm guessing he meant without such a big mistake he went down. However if the made the mistake that he went down it can still be...
I'm guessing he meant without such a big mistake he went down.
However if the made the mistake that he went down it can still
be said that it was straight up. IE: take the position that had the rider
not been riding over his head he wouldn't have gone down or riding
fast enough to be where he was.
TM
Of course, I think there is a big difference mentally though between being lapped after a crash, and being lapped whilst keeping it on two wheels.

I think this fiasco is all about his pride.

On the positive side, thankfully Marvin and, or, Dungey didn't get injured... Now that would be a shit storm.
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burnside 2/28/2016 10:53am
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Dan-The-Man wrote:
To the people saying Stewart should retire because of a 14th place finish. It's his first full race in how long? Let's not forget Chad Reeds...
To the people saying Stewart should retire because of a 14th place finish. It's his first full race in how long? Let's not forget Chad Reeds 12th last week. Are you saying they should both retire? Reed has been on the bike all year.

As for what happened. Stew held his line as he should have. Should he have slowed up and let them by? Yea.
You can't blame Stew for MM going for the triple and casing it. That was his fault.


People listen to DV? All I ever remember is his slap fight.

https://youtu.be/L2EyqdAxAZg
You're missing out dude, he is an entertaining guest on Pulp, with vast knowledge, experience, stories and ain't scared to put his opinion out there.
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WFO! 2/28/2016 11:25am
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jndmx wrote:
For what it's worth I was at the race and sitting on the section opposite the side where the "incident" happened. James was getting the blue...
For what it's worth
I was at the race and sitting on the section opposite the side where the "incident" happened.
James was getting the blue flag from that section on, pretty much for an entire lap and he looked like he was trying to stay ahead of the battle and not get lapped.
This.
x 1 billion
ToolMaker 2/28/2016 12:05pm
2/28/2016 12:05pm
For shits and giggles, let's pretend it was Alessi instead of Stewart and see if we can get 20 pages.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
overthebars39 2/28/2016 12:33pm
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Straight before the 180 to finishline jump, he should have got out of the way. MM even revved his bike in that corner before the jump to tell JS to move out of the way. He was getting blue flags for a longer time before that without a doubt. He just kept on trucking... MM fucked his own triple up, but JS shouldn't be in the way either.

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mb60 2/28/2016 12:57pm
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MR. X wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/02/28/125984/s1200_20160228_092634_1.jpg[/img] I'll leave this here to refresh your memory ,if Marvin hits that section clean then he would have won the race no problem. He was...

I'll leave this here to refresh your memory ,if Marvin hits that section clean then he would have won the race no problem. He was no where near Stewart after he left the first jump until he came up short and got squirrelly .
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section he wins no problems. He came up short most likely because of the pressure of Dungey hounding him the whole race. Could have JS7 pulled over in the turn before yes. But costing someone the race because of this section no way.
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Prntscrn 2/28/2016 1:05pm
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mb60 wrote:
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section...
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section he wins no problems. He came up short most likely because of the pressure of Dungey hounding him the whole race. Could have JS7 pulled over in the turn before yes. But costing someone the race because of this section no way.
No. He came up short because Stew messed him up in the turn. Pretty sure Marvin was expecting Stewart to hug the inside in the corner, which would have been the right thing to do.


imo it was a really bad move by James
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cali11 2/28/2016 1:19pm
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mb60 wrote:
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section...
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section he wins no problems. He came up short most likely because of the pressure of Dungey hounding him the whole race. Could have JS7 pulled over in the turn before yes. But costing someone the race because of this section no way.
Prntscrn wrote:
No. He came up short because Stew messed him up in the turn. Pretty sure Marvin was expecting Stewart to hug the inside in the corner...
No. He came up short because Stew messed him up in the turn. Pretty sure Marvin was expecting Stewart to hug the inside in the corner, which would have been the right thing to do.


imo it was a really bad move by James
Looking at the picture above looks like MM25 had plenty of room to clear that triple. MM25 was on the outside of him in the berm, So why didn't he make the triple? James is not is his way. More like he is in RD5 way & he got by no problem. Now yes, James should of just let them by b4 the finish line, but that was all MM25 fault. He even said so on twitter. Said he made the mistake, but wished James would of let them by b4.
MillsHondaRider 2/28/2016 1:39pm
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TripleFive wrote:
If James did the right thing, then Canard, Weimer, and Friese must've done the wrong thing.
THIS!

He should have conceded the spot on the start straight and not been the in the bowl turn with the leaders after the whoops.
woody woodpecker 2/28/2016 1:46pm
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MR. X wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/02/28/125984/s1200_20160228_092634_1.jpg[/img] I'll leave this here to refresh your memory ,if Marvin hits that section clean then he would have won the race no problem. He was...

I'll leave this here to refresh your memory ,if Marvin hits that section clean then he would have won the race no problem. He was no where near Stewart after he left the first jump until he came up short and got squirrelly .
mb60 wrote:
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section...
All you have to do is look at this picture. If anything JS7 was going to slow up Dungey not MM25. If Marvin clears that section he wins no problems. He came up short most likely because of the pressure of Dungey hounding him the whole race. Could have JS7 pulled over in the turn before yes. But costing someone the race because of this section no way.
I don't understand, what is that picture suppose to show? That after half a lap, four blue flags, and having just blocked the leaders line, James finally decided it might be a good idea to get out of the way?






Nope, definitely no chance he slowed up Musquin! Dizzy
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BobbyM 2/28/2016 1:51pm
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Can you imagine the "implodnation" of this place if James moved over and took one or both down and out?


Afuckingmazing....
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Weimer
Canard
Stewart

Spot the difference







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Lucifa. 2/28/2016 1:58pm
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Holy shit. Are you Vitards still crying about this? Go outside and ride. Page 12, WOW.
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mxb2 2/28/2016 2:31pm
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Lucifa. wrote:
Holy shit. Are you Vitards still crying about this? Go outside and ride. Page 12, WOW.
Thanks for crying about crying. .lol.
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psychcle 2/28/2016 3:03pm
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#SMH cuz it's a race track... not a this or that lane freeway... bad luck for everybody but that "Wheaties" guy... just shayin lol imho

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KennyT 2/28/2016 3:08pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Can you imagine the "implodnation" of this place if James moved over and took one or both down and out?


Afuckingmazing....
Exactly Bobby! The smartest move a lapper can make is no move at all. Hold your pace and your line and that is what JS did. It is up to the leaders to make those move around the mapper without running into him...it is a talent that is pet of being a successful racer and MM simply blew it. And I am not nut hugging JS or Dungey...I wanted Marvin to win

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