Handlebar width?

zippytech
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Edited Date/Time 6/4/2025 5:25pm

I was just watching this past weekends race in full, but does Tomac's bars look short?

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6/4/2025 6:52pm

Have noticed the same thing. Thought they looked narrow and a little tall for several years.

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6/4/2025 8:27pm

I clicked the thread without context and the first thing that came to mind was that this thread might be about how narrow Tomac bars look

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6/4/2025 8:41pm

I’ve noticed this since he’s been on the Yamaha. I can’t tell if they’re cut slightly shorter (maybe around 31”, or if he’s broader than most other guys on the gate and he’s making them look smaller. 

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6/4/2025 8:41pm

Heard he has to cut them down because he was tired of dragging them in every corner😎

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6/4/2025 8:50pm Edited Date/Time 6/4/2025 8:54pm

IMG 3117 0Prados bars looked wide and tall at hangtown , also caught my eye 

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6/4/2025 8:53pm

They've been that way since his Kawi days...

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6/4/2025 8:58pm Edited Date/Time 6/4/2025 9:02pm

Some of you guys got a sharp eye! I think someone mentioned in one of the race threads that Deegan's bars looked wider than everyone's as well.

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zippytech wrote:

I was just watching this past weekends race in full, but does Tomac's bars look short?

Agreed!! I have always thought they looked similar to what Windham ran   

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6/4/2025 9:45pm

aways thought so too. might have come from his dad racing old school mountainbikes. theyre super wide now (780mm +/- 20) but they used to be quite short. i think shorter bars help you get on top of the bike a little better in corners and what not. yeah there's less "leverage" but i dont think he lacks for strength. 

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Yeah, MTB bars have gotten much wider. 
MX bars have stayed about the same since the ‘70s?

I do seem to remember some wide chrome bars on early 70’s bikes. 

Some trail riders I know cut their bars a little. I just run stock width. Do aftermarket bars come in different widths?

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I've noticed this as well. It looks comfortable though. Should be about shoulder width when you reach for the handlebar.

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skypig wrote:
Yeah, MTB bars have gotten much wider. MX bars have stayed about the same since the ‘70s?I do seem to remember some wide chrome bars on early...

Yeah, MTB bars have gotten much wider. 
MX bars have stayed about the same since the ‘70s?

I do seem to remember some wide chrome bars on early 70’s bikes. 

Some trail riders I know cut their bars a little. I just run stock width. Do aftermarket bars come in different widths?

Most bars are 800-814mm wide. Ktm and the Euros in general use an 811-813mm bar which might explain Prado. 

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I remember Gary Bailey saying to do a push up and have someone measure where your hands are and that's where they should be on the handlebars. He said you would have the most strength at that point. I use to measure to the outside of my hands and add a little for the grip end and cut my bars that length.  

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mx317 wrote:
I remember Gary Bailey saying to do a push up and have someone measure where your hands are and that's where they should be on the...

I remember Gary Bailey saying to do a push up and have someone measure where your hands are and that's where they should be on the handlebars. He said you would have the most strength at that point. I use to measure to the outside of my hands and add a little for the grip end and cut my bars that length.  

Exactly inside measurement for inside of grip distance.

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i cut 4mm off each end of my 996 twin walls and was 1. surprised i could tell a difference, and 2. I noticed i seem to be able to turn down into inside ruts easier. I thought it was placebo but i have uncut 996s on my 2006 KX 250 and when i rode that the other weekend i was shocked at how weird it felt! 

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mx317 wrote:
I remember Gary Bailey saying to do a push up and have someone measure where your hands are and that's where they should be on the...

I remember Gary Bailey saying to do a push up and have someone measure where your hands are and that's where they should be on the handlebars. He said you would have the most strength at that point. I use to measure to the outside of my hands and add a little for the grip end and cut my bars that length.  

I teach that in my MX & roadrace schools now :-) I got it from Gary's book, way back when ;-)

 

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6/6/2025 4:49pm

I've always thought something looked different about Chase's bars. I dont know if its an optical illusion from his hand positioning or his bars are shorter. I feel like its looks different than every other rider on the gate

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6/6/2025 5:19pm Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 5:24pm

I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once. 
 

Side story…

Didnt go in to the Dr for a few days since it was the holiday weekend. 
They had to do surgery and used a dead blow to rebreak my jaw since it already started fusing back together, at the wrong angle. 
when I came to after surgery and my father ( I was 30 when this happened) dropped me off at my house, I realized I couldnt take the claustrophobia of having my mouth wired shut. 
I ended up cutting all the wires holding my mouth shut. 

The following week I went for a post op, Im yapping away at the dr and dude wasn't happy.  I had to sign off on the repair as the health system was no longer responsible. I totally understood. 

Did I recover, yea.  There was still a sore apot on the jaw joint 16 years later. All good now. 


 

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Ive noticed Eli's for awhile. Too scared to try for myself tho lol. 

6/6/2025 7:15pm
yardsailor wrote:
I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once.  Side story…Didnt go in...

I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once. 
 

Side story…

Didnt go in to the Dr for a few days since it was the holiday weekend. 
They had to do surgery and used a dead blow to rebreak my jaw since it already started fusing back together, at the wrong angle. 
when I came to after surgery and my father ( I was 30 when this happened) dropped me off at my house, I realized I couldnt take the claustrophobia of having my mouth wired shut. 
I ended up cutting all the wires holding my mouth shut. 

The following week I went for a post op, Im yapping away at the dr and dude wasn't happy.  I had to sign off on the repair as the health system was no longer responsible. I totally understood. 

Did I recover, yea.  There was still a sore apot on the jaw joint 16 years later. All good now. 


 

Jesus, you savage. Did the handlebar hit you in the helmet so hard it broke your jaw?

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Face planted with such impact that my chin strap pulled on my lower jaw so hard that it snapped. 
Everytime I strapped on a helmet after that, that area that broke was very tender.  We’re talking even 15 years later.

I have pics of crash somewhere. Some stranger was randomly taking photos and somehow somewhere somebody that they knew -knew who I was and got the pics to me. 

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yardsailor wrote:
I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once.  Side story…Didnt go in...

I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once. 
 

Side story…

Didnt go in to the Dr for a few days since it was the holiday weekend. 
They had to do surgery and used a dead blow to rebreak my jaw since it already started fusing back together, at the wrong angle. 
when I came to after surgery and my father ( I was 30 when this happened) dropped me off at my house, I realized I couldnt take the claustrophobia of having my mouth wired shut. 
I ended up cutting all the wires holding my mouth shut. 

The following week I went for a post op, Im yapping away at the dr and dude wasn't happy.  I had to sign off on the repair as the health system was no longer responsible. I totally understood. 

Did I recover, yea.  There was still a sore apot on the jaw joint 16 years later. All good now. 


 

What did they do to repair it without the wires in your mouth? 

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6/6/2025 11:09pm
yardsailor wrote:
I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once.  Side story…Didnt go in...

I always seemed to tangle bars with guys 30 feet down from the gate on the start. Ended in a broken jaw once. 
 

Side story…

Didnt go in to the Dr for a few days since it was the holiday weekend. 
They had to do surgery and used a dead blow to rebreak my jaw since it already started fusing back together, at the wrong angle. 
when I came to after surgery and my father ( I was 30 when this happened) dropped me off at my house, I realized I couldnt take the claustrophobia of having my mouth wired shut. 
I ended up cutting all the wires holding my mouth shut. 

The following week I went for a post op, Im yapping away at the dr and dude wasn't happy.  I had to sign off on the repair as the health system was no longer responsible. I totally understood. 

Did I recover, yea.  There was still a sore apot on the jaw joint 16 years later. All good now. 


 

A broken Jaw and having my mouth wired shut, is one of my Greatest Fears.

I've been bolted to beds / into machines, had a lot of metal 'fitted' to me, through a Lot of Operations, but not being able to open my mouth just brings on so much fear, and, as you said , Claustrophobia. Just thinking about it now, give me the Heebie Jeebies

When I broke  my jaw, decades ago, they debated wiring it shut - well, I (stupidly, I know) just got up and exited the  ER. It wasn't displaced, but I made damned sure I only ate Yogurt etc / Liquid meals for around a month after. 

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