LA ICE protest

Chain ChaTTer wrote:

You dont know an America without them.I say that as a positive!Bring the change! Adios motherfucker!Country of laws.When they plow into your family in their car and...

You dont know an America without them.

I say that as a positive!

Bring the change! 
Adios motherfucker!

Country of laws.

When they plow into your family in their car and drive off,let me know who your calling.

prozach wrote:

Between Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.  Who deported the most? Who the least?  

prozach wrote:

Between Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.  Who deported the most? Who the least?  

EVH4Ever wrote:

I was recently informed it was Clinton by a mile folkowed by Obama. Where was the outrage then?

prozach wrote:

Between Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.  Who deported the most? Who the least?  

EVH4Ever wrote:

I was recently informed it was Clinton by a mile folkowed by Obama. Where was the outrage then?

Jeffro802 wrote:

Is someone going to tell him that republicans aren’t the only ones who are for immigration reform? The protests and outrage is for HOW it’s being...

Is someone going to tell him that republicans aren’t the only ones who are for immigration reform? The protests and outrage is for HOW it’s being done. It blows my mind that I just had to explain that to an adult. 

JAFO92 wrote:

That Barbara Jordan clip isnt surprising.   Liberals used to be level headed and were all about taking care of the American citizen, air, water and...

That Barbara Jordan clip isnt surprising.   Liberals used to be level headed and were all about taking care of the American citizen, air, water and other common sense objectives.  While the Conservatives were all about Big Money and screw the common man in the name of profits.

The left has been hijacked by progressive wack-jobs and its been a slow-drip of that poison to get where we are now.   A little bit at a time.   And older, traditional liberals are all like,  WTF,   what happened to the Democratic Party?    Its become nothing but kooks, violent activists, mentally unstable basement dwellers and wannabe socialists.     And Conservative are the ones looking out for Joe Sixpack, capitalism and the American Dream.

You guys on the left really need to side with us and call out the wack-jobs that have taken over the DNC and get rid of these kooks. Seriously.

If you can see the logic in that,  well,  you must be on of those kooks too.

 

LungButter wrote:

Lets not act like the Republicans don't have some wack job ideas too though.  Such as the dip shits that the fine folks in Utah elect...

Lets not act like the Republicans don't have some wack job ideas too though.  

Such as the dip shits that the fine folks in Utah elect that are hell bent in selling off our Public Lands.

The moral of the story is, there are idiots on both Teams, the biggest problem in America is that most folks are so gawd damn brainwashed to blindly follow that they can't see that.

prozach wrote:

Between Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.  Who deported the most? Who the least?  

Kenny Banyan wrote:

Joey Bridges wrote:

Now about that, "they do the jobs that Americans won't"...

Now about that, "they do the jobs that Americans won't"...

Kenny Banyan wrote:

EVH4Ever wrote:

This is an outrage!

Kenny Banyan wrote:

EVH4Ever wrote:

This is an outrage!

Kenny Banyan wrote:

EVH4Ever wrote:

This is an outrage!

MXMattii wrote:

Obama send people back who where in the United States for a few days to a few weeks, weren't a part of the US economic system...

Obama send people back who where in the United States for a few days to a few weeks, weren't a part of the US economic system neither social system... He didn't gave the command to raid Mexican, Ecuadorian, Venezuelan... communities to seek for illegals who where already, for years a part of the economic system. Something Trump realizes himself now, hopefully it will change his way at looking to illegal immigrants who are part of the American society and economy.

His original command to raid those communities and even siege those cities with high numbers of possible illegals has a terrifying resemblance with Adolf Hitlers hunt on Jews. For Hitler, Germany could only get "Great Again" if they got rid of the Jews. For Trump all illegal immigrants are criminals and to create his "MAGA dream" he needs to get rid of his "Jews" and those are the illegal immigrants in his eyes. Sending them to jails in El Salvador, threaten to send them to Guantanamo bay detention camp... Do you see the resemblance?!

prozach wrote:

I wouldn't say that trying to exterminate an entire ethnicity is the same as looking for people who circumnavigated a country's laws and legal system and...

I wouldn't say that trying to exterminate an entire ethnicity is the same as looking for people who circumnavigated a country's laws and legal system and are according to the countries long standing immigration laws in the country illegally; anything remotely close to the same things.  

Imagine if Biden had just enforced the boarder the same as Trump did his first term. This might not even be an issue or a thing.  

The tact could be better.  Who is targeted maybe more thought out.  But it's ridiculous to compare what is being done to the Holocaust.  

So are you saying that people shouldn't be held to the law if they have gotten away with breaking it for a period of time?  What is the cut off.  2 months, 2 years, 10 years?  

prozach wrote:

I wouldn't say that trying to exterminate an entire ethnicity is the same as looking for people who circumnavigated a country's laws and legal system and...

I wouldn't say that trying to exterminate an entire ethnicity is the same as looking for people who circumnavigated a country's laws and legal system and are according to the countries long standing immigration laws in the country illegally; anything remotely close to the same things.  

Imagine if Biden had just enforced the boarder the same as Trump did his first term. This might not even be an issue or a thing.  

The tact could be better.  Who is targeted maybe more thought out.  But it's ridiculous to compare what is being done to the Holocaust.  

So are you saying that people shouldn't be held to the law if they have gotten away with breaking it for a period of time?  What is the cut off.  2 months, 2 years, 10 years?  

MXMattii wrote:

Off course you want me to say a period, to response: "If a murder doesn't get caught in x-period he walks". But this isn't murder. You...

Off course you want me to say a period, to response: "If a murder doesn't get caught in x-period he walks". But this isn't murder. You could say that being illegal is a fraud, so after 5 to 10 years the case drops and they can walk. But the weird thing is that pedophiles can walk after 10 years (see below the statutes of limitations) but an immigration case hasn't statutes of limitations, weird. 

Also ICE plays a dodgy game by showing "ICE Form I-200" or "I-205" warrants but these aren't even signed by a judge, they are signed by themselves and are in fact not enough to enter a house. But they use them to leverage themselves into the houses of the immigrants. What happens next doesn't matter anymore because if you can't prove that you are legal, you're illegal. If you're one of them that look at being illegal as a criminal offense than this is probably the only criminal offense where the police or better said ICE can say: "I know he isn't an American, deport him" there is no prove needed of him being an illegal immigrant. It is the only criminal offense where a defendant, isn't guilty till proven, no he's illegal and guilty till he can prove that he's legal and even then ICE can say: "In his home country he has a criminal record" and again the defendant needs to prove otherwise. Again I can draw serious parallels to Nazi-Germany but why would I wast my time. 

Criminal Law – General Rules:

Federal crimes:

Standard time limit: 5 years for most federal crimes.
Fraud or financial crimes: often 5 to 10 years.
Terrorism, child pornography, or major corruption: up to 10 years or more.
Murder: no statute of limitations — can be prosecuted at any time.

State crimes (varies by state):
The statute of limitations varies by state, but many states follow similar guidelines:

Felonies: usually 3 to 10 years.
Misdemeanors: often 1 to 3 years.
Murder and other very serious crimes: usually no statute of limitations.

 

NOTE: This rule has been violated so much the last few days:

During an arrest or questioning by ICE:

ICE does not need to have full proof in advance that someone is undocumented — they are allowed to detain someone based on reasonable suspicion (probable cause) of an immigration violation. This can be based on:

* Not being able to present a valid visa or residency document.
* A criminal record that makes someone removable.
* Information from databases, tips, or prior immigration cases.

🛑 However: they are not allowed to detain someone arbitrarily or based solely on ethnicity — that would be a violation of constitutional rights.

Jeffro802 wrote:

Is someone going to tell him that republicans aren’t the only ones who are for immigration reform? The protests and outrage is for HOW it’s being...

Is someone going to tell him that republicans aren’t the only ones who are for immigration reform? The protests and outrage is for HOW it’s being done. It blows my mind that I just had to explain that to an adult. 

harescrambled wrote:

It's being done the way it is because Congress has refused to get off its collective ass and solve the problem. (It may be that it's...

It's being done the way it is because Congress has refused to get off its collective ass and solve the problem. (It may be that it's being done this way simply to illustrate the scope of the problem, and to force congress to act). The instant those clowns think they'll lose a vote, they're crapping themselves. They simply don't have the balls to tackle the real problems this nation is facing. It's much easier to just wring their hands and blame someone else. 

MXMattii wrote:

Off course you want me to say a period, to response: "If a murder doesn't get caught in x-period he walks". But this isn't murder. You...

Off course you want me to say a period, to response: "If a murder doesn't get caught in x-period he walks". But this isn't murder. You could say that being illegal is a fraud, so after 5 to 10 years the case drops and they can walk. But the weird thing is that pedophiles can walk after 10 years (see below the statutes of limitations) but an immigration case hasn't statutes of limitations, weird. 

Also ICE plays a dodgy game by showing "ICE Form I-200" or "I-205" warrants but these aren't even signed by a judge, they are signed by themselves and are in fact not enough to enter a house. But they use them to leverage themselves into the houses of the immigrants. What happens next doesn't matter anymore because if you can't prove that you are legal, you're illegal. If you're one of them that look at being illegal as a criminal offense than this is probably the only criminal offense where the police or better said ICE can say: "I know he isn't an American, deport him" there is no prove needed of him being an illegal immigrant. It is the only criminal offense where a defendant, isn't guilty till proven, no he's illegal and guilty till he can prove that he's legal and even then ICE can say: "In his home country he has a criminal record" and again the defendant needs to prove otherwise. Again I can draw serious parallels to Nazi-Germany but why would I wast my time. 

Criminal Law – General Rules:

Federal crimes:

Standard time limit: 5 years for most federal crimes.
Fraud or financial crimes: often 5 to 10 years.
Terrorism, child pornography, or major corruption: up to 10 years or more.
Murder: no statute of limitations — can be prosecuted at any time.

State crimes (varies by state):
The statute of limitations varies by state, but many states follow similar guidelines:

Felonies: usually 3 to 10 years.
Misdemeanors: often 1 to 3 years.
Murder and other very serious crimes: usually no statute of limitations.

 

NOTE: This rule has been violated so much the last few days:

During an arrest or questioning by ICE:

ICE does not need to have full proof in advance that someone is undocumented — they are allowed to detain someone based on reasonable suspicion (probable cause) of an immigration violation. This can be based on:

* Not being able to present a valid visa or residency document.
* A criminal record that makes someone removable.
* Information from databases, tips, or prior immigration cases.

🛑 However: they are not allowed to detain someone arbitrarily or based solely on ethnicity — that would be a violation of constitutional rights.

JAFO92 wrote:

That Barbara Jordan clip isnt surprising.   Liberals used to be level headed and were all about taking care of the American citizen, air, water and...

That Barbara Jordan clip isnt surprising.   Liberals used to be level headed and were all about taking care of the American citizen, air, water and other common sense objectives.  While the Conservatives were all about Big Money and screw the common man in the name of profits.

The left has been hijacked by progressive wack-jobs and its been a slow-drip of that poison to get where we are now.   A little bit at a time.   And older, traditional liberals are all like,  WTF,   what happened to the Democratic Party?    Its become nothing but kooks, violent activists, mentally unstable basement dwellers and wannabe socialists.     And Conservative are the ones looking out for Joe Sixpack, capitalism and the American Dream.

You guys on the left really need to side with us and call out the wack-jobs that have taken over the DNC and get rid of these kooks. Seriously.

If you can see the logic in that,  well,  you must be on of those kooks too.

 

MXMattii wrote:

Off course you want me to say a period, to response: "If a murder doesn't get caught in x-period he walks". But this isn't murder. You...

Off course you want me to say a period, to response: "If a murder doesn't get caught in x-period he walks". But this isn't murder. You could say that being illegal is a fraud, so after 5 to 10 years the case drops and they can walk. But the weird thing is that pedophiles can walk after 10 years (see below the statutes of limitations) but an immigration case hasn't statutes of limitations, weird. 

Also ICE plays a dodgy game by showing "ICE Form I-200" or "I-205" warrants but these aren't even signed by a judge, they are signed by themselves and are in fact not enough to enter a house. But they use them to leverage themselves into the houses of the immigrants. What happens next doesn't matter anymore because if you can't prove that you are legal, you're illegal. If you're one of them that look at being illegal as a criminal offense than this is probably the only criminal offense where the police or better said ICE can say: "I know he isn't an American, deport him" there is no prove needed of him being an illegal immigrant. It is the only criminal offense where a defendant, isn't guilty till proven, no he's illegal and guilty till he can prove that he's legal and even then ICE can say: "In his home country he has a criminal record" and again the defendant needs to prove otherwise. Again I can draw serious parallels to Nazi-Germany but why would I wast my time. 

Criminal Law – General Rules:

Federal crimes:

Standard time limit: 5 years for most federal crimes.
Fraud or financial crimes: often 5 to 10 years.
Terrorism, child pornography, or major corruption: up to 10 years or more.
Murder: no statute of limitations — can be prosecuted at any time.

State crimes (varies by state):
The statute of limitations varies by state, but many states follow similar guidelines:

Felonies: usually 3 to 10 years.
Misdemeanors: often 1 to 3 years.
Murder and other very serious crimes: usually no statute of limitations.

 

NOTE: This rule has been violated so much the last few days:

During an arrest or questioning by ICE:

ICE does not need to have full proof in advance that someone is undocumented — they are allowed to detain someone based on reasonable suspicion (probable cause) of an immigration violation. This can be based on:

* Not being able to present a valid visa or residency document.
* A criminal record that makes someone removable.
* Information from databases, tips, or prior immigration cases.

🛑 However: they are not allowed to detain someone arbitrarily or based solely on ethnicity — that would be a violation of constitutional rights.

vet323 wrote:

Belgium has an illegal population that's about .01% of it's total population. Our's is 3.5%.

 

EVH4Ever wrote:

You gave your word to do and be better. 

Now returning you to prior jackass status.

T-MAC wrote:

Noted, I will just refrain altogether.

Man of my word, try to be as best I can, at least.

akillerwombat wrote:

Take everything EVH has to say with a grain of salt; he's on his 3rd or 4th username now (that we know of) and...

Take everything EVH has to say with a grain of salt; he's on his 3rd or 4th username now (that we know of) and they have 1,400 posts in two months with 99% of them being half sentence insults.

I know a lot of people aren't enjoying your posts thus far but I do appreciate the personal experience you are bringing into the conversations. If more people did this instead of making all their responses based on assumptions about the other person, IE "I did" vs "You did", this place would be a lot more pleasant.