Seven to Alta! (bike photo by Alta)

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JS7 doing redbull straight rythem on an alta? I could see that. Would be a good deal for both sides of that party.

Serious shit going on with those guys

It's a set of graphics guys. Chill.

yuck

JS, Trip and Casey. Sounds like a solid team

I like it!

Shet just got even wore expensive.

Finally a "Factory" ECU!
Or is it an MCU?

KC

It's not official until Ride365 posts up a pic of the semi!

TriRacer27 wrote:

It's a set of graphics guys. Chill.

No

Honestly it's pretty ugly looking

cameron96 wrote:

Serious shit going on with those guys

lol thanks for that Tony drop. Perfectly timed sir!

Brace yourself..... The JS7/Alta threads are coming....

It's for a video

I want to see an earbud accessory available. That firstly doubles as a set of earplugs for the other bikes around you. Secondly, that pipes in dirtbike engine noise (either 2T or 4T, your choice) that correlates with your throttle positioning/motor effort, at a frequency/decibel level that does not harm your ears.

At Monster Energy Supercross, they could even broadcast the sounds of all the machines through the PA. You'd be hearing each rider's personal preference and they could easily switch between the sounds of single bikes or the whole field. I understand the system would be susceptible to hacks. Guys would be making their bikes sound like literal fart machines or porn moaning. I would think at the professional level they would be able to keep that under wraps, by among other things, hefty fines.

loftyair wrote:

Shet just got even wore expensive.

No gas, no oil, no coolant. No top end kits, exhaust systems.... etc. Could actually be cheaper in the long run.

It's funny, this bike has been floating around since the original seven honda was posted. I posted the picture.

Roger Larson posted it.

MudPup545 wrote:

No gas, no oil, no coolant. No top end kits, exhaust systems.... etc. Could actually be cheaper in the long run.

Yup, just need to get the cost of the bikes down. After the 15K investment, all your spending money on is chains, tires, suspension rebuilds, and the occasional wheel bearing.
None the less, right now it takes a lot of top ends to make up the difference between 15K and 9K

How much when the motor burns out? Or batteries?

Electric bikes are coming and coming. Look a the hybrid developed for our special forces. I rode a Zero street bike and it was fun.

I agree though what happens when motor burns out, or battery loses capacity. Or even when next year's model has more power, weighs less, and more battery capacity. Think its hard to sell a used 250F? I think it would be hard to move an older electric.

To me right now its a consumer electronics disposable, albeit a very expensive one.

Be cool if they came with a 5 year motor warranty. Be a major incentive to buy

Think of 5 years of Moto without an engine rebuild or buying a new bike cause yours is timed out

Alta really needs to sit down in a chair and look at that design, come up with the next look. They need to see the value of a product that looks like the future, not something that looks old. From the middle of that seat forward it looks like the last ktm 125 I road in my career, it looks like an 05 white ktm 125. It looks old and heavy. That front fender and really just the whole bike doesn't say future it says ww2.

backinthesaddleagain wrote:

Electric bikes are coming and coming. Look a the hybrid developed for our special forces. I rode a Zero street bike and it was fun.

I agree though what happens when motor burns out, or battery loses capacity. Or even when next year's model has more power, weighs less, and more battery capacity. Think its hard to sell a used 250F? I think it would be hard to move an older electric.

To me right now its a consumer electronics disposable, albeit a very expensive one.

Unless they do the chemistry wrong you'll have no issues with the battery. Tesla and BMW both are seeing less than 2% degradation on vehicles used every single day for 4 and 5 years now. A motorcycle used for 4-6 hours a week should have no battery issues.

The motor should be solid as well but there's too many variables for me to make solid statements about it.

I work within high-end electronics (think 100k for a box) and we offer long warranty periods (min of 4 years). If the unit has an issue within this period, shipping to and from is free and the fix is free. Outside of this period, the work is billable unless it's a known factory fault that's systemic. We also offer pretty nice incentives to trade in and get the new unit or system.

I think Alta could really benefit from this in the battery department. Offer a prolonged warranty on the battery itself and then as long as the form/fit/function is the same on new generations, have trade-in incentives for people that bought the initial version. These people, after all, are your early adopters and you'll want to take care of them.

Jeff alessi wrote:

Alta really needs to sit down in a chair and look at that design, come up with the next look. They need to see the value of a product that looks like the future, not something that looks old. From the middle of that seat forward it looks like the last ktm 125 I road in my career, it looks like an 05 white ktm 125. It looks old and heavy. That front fender and really just the whole bike doesn't say future it says ww2.

You know I couldn't figure out what it was I didn't like about it, but that is what it is.

Jeff alessi wrote:

Alta really needs to sit down in a chair and look at that design, come up with the next look. They need to see the value of a product that looks like the future, not something that looks old. From the middle of that seat forward it looks like the last ktm 125 I road in my career, it looks like an 05 white ktm 125. It looks old and heavy. That front fender and really just the whole bike doesn't say future it says ww2.

The louvered "shrouds" need a better look, too:

From a functional standpoint, does it even need "radiator shrouds"? Maybe they can come up with a better, more knee-gripping assembly there... And if they are going to put shrouds on for traditionalism's sake: why did they pattern them after what I can only assume was the decidedly awkward-looking Suzuki RF900?

RhinoRider wrote:

How much when the motor burns out? Or batteries?

This is what I was wondering. People are acting like the things gonna be bulletproof aside from the regular wear and tear things like tires and chains etc.. but what are you going to do when the electric motor fails? I know people who won't dare to take the head off their 4 stroke let alone dive into an electric motor. Not to mention the cost from Alta to get it fixed would probably be through the roof.

RhinoRider wrote:

How much when the motor burns out? Or batteries?

jorgechavez wrote:

This is what I was wondering. People are acting like the things gonna be bulletproof aside from the regular wear and tear things like tires and chains etc.. but what are you going to do when the electric motor fails? I know people who won't dare to take the head off their 4 stroke let alone dive into an electric motor. Not to mention the cost from Alta to get it fixed would probably be through the roof.

Theoretically, if the market shakes it out, an electric motor should be a supremely low cost repair compared to what we are used to.

Way, way simpler, with fractional part count of an internal combustion, and significantly less inertial torque to mitigate compared with even a 2-stroke. Compared to a high performance 4-stoke: not even in the same galaxy of complexity, even electronically.