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Good for them. AMA needs to feel a little heat on this one.

Dear Honda, Please sue these flakey donkeys clown show into never never land. Signed : Almost everyone.

Damn, Honda is seeing red

If the riders and/or teams knew about this lead in light nonsense, Pierces statement wouldn't have been "I didn't see any lights" it would have been, yeah I saw the lead in lights but there was no flag on the finish line so I jumped. Him saying he didn't see the lights, whether he actually did or not, is him making a very public statement of ignorance to the lights (which is the smart thing to do in his case) Bottom line, to me, is if the AMA can't cite a specific WRITTEN rule, then IDGAF what they say on...

The rule clearly states one or the other and not both

Your fatal flaw is the fact you're assuming they had this figured out prior to the events in the race. This entire thing is pure damage control and reverse engineering to justify them not issuing any penalties at all. Think about this for a second...you now have current and former RACERS pissed off that no penalties were issued. How wild is that? If this wasn't a tremendous and obvious failure, the racers would be arguing the opposite side.

Well, Filthy is in…

So Jo didn’t have to roll because there was no flag but the 450 boys didn’t have to roll because there was no warning light?

Who does Brown ride for? Who is the Series Title Sponsor? It all sounds fishy to me.

Do you not see the dumb complexity of these situations and decision making by flag waivers and button pushers where as you are having to dig deep to explain situations that riders have to decide and react in milliseconds so they themselves don’t crash. Have the lights or the flag, not both, mean what they mean and apply and enforce accordingly. The riders racing MUST be given consideration to see and react with the least amount of additional thought. I.e. where is the light? How many were on? (While I’m racing, watching my line) is there a flag to go...

What does Jo or Hunter do now when they see a red light or Red Cross flags? It’s complete BS

The AMA's logic is off the planet absurd.. they think they are clever by reinterpreting the rules so they don't have to take any action or admit any fault, but they seem so f'n dumb that they don't recognize how illogical and stupid their explanation is on the 250 situation, Shimoda got screwed for doing the right thing. This makes our sport look bad. AMA is not qualified to oversee even a grade school kickball game.

Yet we have riders losing 5 points over sound testing. Something they have no control over. Make it make sense.

They had lead in lights in the playoffs. They tested them there. The Rulebook doesn't designate lead in light, triple lights, quad lights. It says a Red Cross Flag OR a Red Flashing Light. We are gonna have to agree to disagree with this bullshit. For the record, I have no idea who you are but have an idea who you work for. Stop hiding behind an anonymous screen name, say it with your whole chest. You lose almost as much credibility as the AMA does when they rule on something! I wish ML and the powers that be here...

So if Hunter didn't jump and the others did, it will suck mightily if Hunter lost a potential championship by a gap decided by no points penalty given to riders for a red cross flag jump. And same for Joe. What was the penalty Jett got for fouling the gate? Was it docked 17 positions or something? You cant have supposed strict rules where riders are penalised for safety breaches if broken, then in this case you've got riders complying and others breaching and the rules makers coming out and saying "well yeah no rules broken this time". If it...

Hunter didn’t jump, but Eli did, that’s why it appeared Tomac was charging and catching up. However it was just the result of different reactions to the red cross flag. Afterwards Hunter pulled the lead back out.