Damn coop!

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TAUTOG wrote:

If star benches Coop he'll be on a Husky next Saturday 

APLMAN99 wrote:
I don’t think it’d be quite that easy. If they bench him ‘for cause’, he’d still be under contract with Yamaha/Star. If Star truly wanted to ‘bench’...

I don’t think it’d be quite that easy. If they bench him ‘for cause’, he’d still be under contract with Yamaha/Star. 

If Star truly wanted to ‘bench’ him, their easiest option is to get his bike through tech inspection, then just before first practice cause a couple of wires to get rubbed through their casings….  

I think he’d still get into the motos, but they could come up with a different electrical/mechanical issue before the first moto. 

Not advocating for that to happen, but I could definitely understand Star wanting to keep him from taking Deegan out. 

Webb should have acted like nothing happened, then whispered what he said to Deegan just before the start of Moto 1. How big of a mind phuck would that be??? 

gt80rider wrote:
And webb could quit tomorrow and be dialed for this weekend.... we will see... but I just don't see webb not racing.... feld/ama could ground him...

And webb could quit tomorrow and be dialed for this weekend.... we will see... but I just don't see webb not racing.... feld/ama could ground him, but they hate the cringe lord camp so I don't see that happening... 

If Webb were to quit Star tomorrow, ride the Husky Saturday, AND somehow take out Deegan, Star would have very little difficulty winning a suit against him after he announced his plans last weekend. 

Another reason why he should have been sneakier about it!!!!!

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mx519cali wrote:

Seems like a lot to happen in the 10 seconds Webb went in trailer. How do neither rider have any marks on then

Probably because Brian was there inside the trailer. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

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I was listening to Blair’s Patreon show this morning and the story they said they heard yesterday was that Webb went into the trailer and told...

I was listening to Blair’s Patreon show this morning and the story they said they heard yesterday was that Webb went into the trailer and told Deegan basically what he said in his interview, how was going to make sure he won’t win next weekend, and Deegan jumped up and said something like “well won’t don’t we settle it right now?” So Webb hit him and Deegan’s security guard (not his UFC friend) grabbed Webb and restrained him with his hands/arms behind his back. While he was being held and pulled away, Deegan hit him back while the security guard basically shuffled Webb out of the lounge. 

Wild if true…


They also said Webb and Deegan had a conversation with each other in the parking lot at the end of the night on the way out. 

I don't trust anyone that wore LBZ.

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Prado needs third. 

Dang that’s a layup the way Prado is ripping. He better avoid the Danger zone. 🤣 Deegs will drop him like a bad habit if he...

Dang that’s a layup the way Prado is ripping. He better avoid the Danger zone. 🤣 Deegs will drop him like a bad habit if he has a chance, no choice.(Go Deegs!)

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I wonder if Cringe Lord will use some of that amazingly pathetic race craft he tried on Shimoda at the finale of last years SMX.  That...

I wonder if Cringe Lord will use some of that amazingly pathetic race craft he tried on Shimoda at the finale of last years SMX.  That was the most pathetic thing I've seen a pro motocross rider do.  Prado needs to stay safely away from the danger zone.

Apparently you haven’t seen Sorby or Roncada ride. 

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At Team Honda Roger did not let JMB race the last 125 National. If I remember correctly JMB and The Kid had issues.

Mike Kiedrowski raced and won the championship. 1989 or 1991?

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MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

Brent wrote:
...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as...

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

Not after what Webb said. They have every legal reason they need to park him. I want them to let Webb ride...I wanna see what happens.

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The amount of hypocrisy on vital is insane 🤣 

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MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

Brent wrote:
...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as...

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his inference (to put it charitably) and took out Deegan, perhaps costing Deegan up to 7 figures?  If that were to happen, it would be pretty difficult to argue that they had no idea what Webb's intentions were, no?

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MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

Brent wrote:
...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as...

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

APLMAN99 wrote:
Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his...

Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his inference (to put it charitably) and took out Deegan, perhaps costing Deegan up to 7 figures?  If that were to happen, it would be pretty difficult to argue that they had no idea what Webb's intentions were, no?

Lets say Webb takes out Deegan and in the process someone else gets hurt?

Legal action for sure.

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Brent wrote:
...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as...

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

APLMAN99 wrote:
Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his...

Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his inference (to put it charitably) and took out Deegan, perhaps costing Deegan up to 7 figures?  If that were to happen, it would be pretty difficult to argue that they had no idea what Webb's intentions were, no?

peanutt wrote:

Lets say Webb takes out Deegan and in the process someone else gets hurt?

Legal action for sure.

A civil suit can be brought for sure, and who knows how the ruling(s) would go.  Either way, Webb stating his intentions doesn't help if he were to be a defendant after physical contact, etc.  Unfortunately, he was obviously caught up in the heat of the moment Saturday night but he said what he said.  Hopefully he just races his heart out and finishes as close to the front as he can without any incidents causing anyone to fall, but the drama is definitely there until after the event is over.  Even if he were to come out now and say "water under the bridge", who is going to believe him?

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Jesus, it's just racin'... Coop needs to take a chill. This type of shit happens ALL THE TIME

"You know why?? Because people let 'em get away with it..." Ray

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqE2NyjugUw

Paul getting dragged in the comments. 

Friday pre race he was talking up Deegan helping him with his media content, looks like he should have kept the hissy fit at bay until he learned a bit more. Clickbait nonsense.

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No...racers can't sue for damages like what is being said. Too hard to prove. It's like in most contracts to race..."to the best of your ability every race". This has not always been done for various reasons by racers. Riders suing for incidental things like them being invovled or being damaged due to whatever reason would be 99.99999% impossible. 

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TAUTOG wrote:

If star benches Coop he'll be on a Husky next Saturday 

MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

Unless he shows up on a privately owned Yamaha like Rick Johnson, I think it was, did one time. It would be epic! 

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deegan went back and forth passing riders and battling and had no issues, was respectful and apologetic in his interviews, No one says a word...... made...

deegan went back and forth passing riders and battling and had no issues, was respectful and apologetic in his interviews, No one says a word...... made a tight pass on coop that had coop checked up even a little he would have filed in right behind deegan instead of ending up on the ground.  The same people that wanted to burn deegans house to the ground with him inside it for how he raced shimoda, are foaming at the mouth for cooper to blatantly Tbone him next weekend and applauding a physical assault (maybe?) in the trailer.  you people are insane, it is so fun to watch.  please dont ever stop🤣

imagine if deegan went to levi's trailer and punched him after the take out in the playoffs last year.. something tells me you guys wouldn't be making out and circle jerking like you are now.

Below a live look at vital posters after watching someone get mad at deegan

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I’m all for taking and receiving what you give on the track, but that is one thing. However physical assault off the track is another, typically...

I’m all for taking and receiving what you give on the track, but that is one thing. However physical assault off the track is another, typically people who cheer for or condone physical violence on others outside of self defense are generally uneducated, lowlifes, or just losers. They should ask themselves why they think it would ever be ok for someone to lay hands on someone else for racing within the rules or making you mad? If true super disappointed in Coop. 

I take it you dont like Hockey?

A lot of sports the players fight over stuff, id rather fight than take a 100mph to my head.

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ZinAZ wrote:
deegan went back and forth passing riders and battling and had no issues, was respectful and apologetic in his interviews, No one says a word...... made...

deegan went back and forth passing riders and battling and had no issues, was respectful and apologetic in his interviews, No one says a word...... made a tight pass on coop that had coop checked up even a little he would have filed in right behind deegan instead of ending up on the ground.  The same people that wanted to burn deegans house to the ground with him inside it for how he raced shimoda, are foaming at the mouth for cooper to blatantly Tbone him next weekend and applauding a physical assault (maybe?) in the trailer.  you people are insane, it is so fun to watch.  please dont ever stop🤣

imagine if deegan went to levi's trailer and punched him after the take out in the playoffs last year.. something tells me you guys wouldn't be making out and circle jerking like you are now.

Below a live look at vital posters after watching someone get mad at deegan

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I’m all for taking and receiving what you give on the track, but that is one thing. However physical assault off the track is another, typically...

I’m all for taking and receiving what you give on the track, but that is one thing. However physical assault off the track is another, typically people who cheer for or condone physical violence on others outside of self defense are generally uneducated, lowlifes, or just losers. They should ask themselves why they think it would ever be ok for someone to lay hands on someone else for racing within the rules or making you mad? If true super disappointed in Coop. 

kijen wrote:

I take it you dont like Hockey?

A lot of sports the players fight over stuff, id rather fight than take a 100mph to my head.

All for it on the track (rink, court, field, etc.) same as I replied to someone else earlier. When you participate in a sport you consent to physical contact while competing that may even go beyond the normally accepted amount, and as you mentioned, extra physical contact can be expected to enforce etiquette or unwritten rules of the sport as it’s used to deter purposely seriously injuring others competitors.

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It sucks, Cooper ran a clean race, had good speed and the mistakes by everybody else could have got him another podium. What Deegan did after falling was a dick move but, Webb really should have kept his intentions quiet because we all knew what was coming.

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peanutt wrote:
At Team Honda Roger did not let JMB race the last 125 National. If I remember correctly JMB and The Kid had issues.Mike Kiedrowski raced and...

At Team Honda Roger did not let JMB race the last 125 National. If I remember correctly JMB and The Kid had issues.

Mike Kiedrowski raced and won the championship. 1989 or 1991?

Negative. MX Kied lost the championship to Cooper.  JMB refused to play team tactics so he got benched. 

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You guys are thinking way too deep into this. Deegan enjoys dirty riding right? Isn’t that what he says. Live by the sword die by the sword. Crazy everyone acted surprised when Levi t boned him. I knew it was just a matter of time someone sends him to the stands. 

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I was listening to Blair’s Patreon show this morning and the story they said they heard yesterday was that Webb went into the trailer and told...

I was listening to Blair’s Patreon show this morning and the story they said they heard yesterday was that Webb went into the trailer and told Deegan basically what he said in his interview, how was going to make sure he won’t win next weekend, and Deegan jumped up and said something like “well won’t don’t we settle it right now?” So Webb hit him and Deegan’s security guard (not his UFC friend) grabbed Webb and restrained him with his hands/arms behind his back. While he was being held and pulled away, Deegan hit him back while the security guard basically shuffled Webb out of the lounge. 

Wild if true…


They also said Webb and Deegan had a conversation with each other in the parking lot at the end of the night on the way out. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not picking sides in this fight but weren't the majority of you guys on here last week proclaiming Blair as Kooksey II....and I'm not saying...

I'm not picking sides in this fight but weren't the majority of you guys on here last week proclaiming Blair as Kooksey II....and I'm not saying this is you but I can guarantee that many who lambasted Blair last week will now proclaim him as the voice of truth...🤷‍♂️

What now? This is the 1st time I recall anyone even mentioning Blair, negative or positive. 

Not sure what you're on about. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

Brent wrote:
...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as...

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

If Webb were to try and quit he would be in breach of his contract and Yam could easily get an injunction to keep him out of the race on a Hus. If Star sits him for disciplinary reasons (which are spelled out in every contract) there is nothing he could do and he would sit out…they would not be denying a contracted team rider to fulfill his contract they would be disciplining a rider that was being detrimental to the team….where you people come up with this shit is nuts…

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I was listening to Blair’s Patreon show this morning and the story they said they heard yesterday was that Webb went into the trailer and told...

I was listening to Blair’s Patreon show this morning and the story they said they heard yesterday was that Webb went into the trailer and told Deegan basically what he said in his interview, how was going to make sure he won’t win next weekend, and Deegan jumped up and said something like “well won’t don’t we settle it right now?” So Webb hit him and Deegan’s security guard (not his UFC friend) grabbed Webb and restrained him with his hands/arms behind his back. While he was being held and pulled away, Deegan hit him back while the security guard basically shuffled Webb out of the lounge. 

Wild if true…


They also said Webb and Deegan had a conversation with each other in the parking lot at the end of the night on the way out. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not picking sides in this fight but weren't the majority of you guys on here last week proclaiming Blair as Kooksey II....and I'm not saying...

I'm not picking sides in this fight but weren't the majority of you guys on here last week proclaiming Blair as Kooksey II....and I'm not saying this is you but I can guarantee that many who lambasted Blair last week will now proclaim him as the voice of truth...🤷‍♂️

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

What now? This is the 1st time I recall anyone even mentioning Blair, negative or positive. 

Not sure what you're on about. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

Not after what Webb said. They have every legal reason they need to park him. I want them to let Webb ride...I wanna see what happens.

Only the parties involved and their agents know if there is language in their contract that provides a remedy for verbal threats.  

I’ll say it again- the AMA has not yet released any sanction or fine for anyone involved as of Monday.  

if Webb followed through and made a purposeful, pre meditated move on another rider in next weeks race, then it’s the AMA that would take action.  

If Monster Energy Star Racing Yamaha has not terminated Webb by now for cause or for his conduct it could come back to bite them down the road, just sayin….

Remember also that Webb is  moving to another Monster sponsored team in 6 Days.  Lots of moving parts here…

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MOTO13 wrote:

Not after what Webb said. They have every legal reason they need to park him. I want them to let Webb ride...I wanna see what happens.

Brent wrote:
Only the parties involved and their agents know if there is language in their contract that provides a remedy for verbal threats.  I’ll say it again-...

Only the parties involved and their agents know if there is language in their contract that provides a remedy for verbal threats.  

I’ll say it again- the AMA has not yet released any sanction or fine for anyone involved as of Monday.  

if Webb followed through and made a purposeful, pre meditated move on another rider in next weeks race, then it’s the AMA that would take action.  

If Monster Energy Star Racing Yamaha has not terminated Webb by now for cause or for his conduct it could come back to bite them down the road, just sayin….

Remember also that Webb is  moving to another Monster sponsored team in 6 Days.  Lots of moving parts here…

Your right there isn’t a clause in his contract about verbal threats but there is for actions that are detrimental to the team….l can guarantee you that language is in there and they would not be afraid to use it just as Honda has in the past with both JMB and Pichon and how Kawasaki sat Prado last year during SMX….

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