OFFICIAL Deegan excuse thread

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Poking my head in here to see what's going on....This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have...

Poking my head in here to see what's going on....

This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have those that pretend to be objective but are closet Deegan haters (these guys are the worst). Then you have the Deegan can do no wrong fanboys (these guys are even worse than the closet haters but not by much). Then there is a small contingent of people like me that just enjoy the racing and don't care. Deegan is easily the most polarizing rider right now and it's not even close. What is the old saying "There is no such thing as bad publicity"? 

Some of you get offended for Deegan just trash talking. I remember that everyone was upset how the riders were all nice to each other especially during the Ryans era. 

Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. 

BOB HANNAH: "Hannah famously looked at the starting gate of professional riders and dismissed his competition as 'big fat tubs of goo,' mocking their physical fitness compared to his relentless training regimen." 

"Describing his mental state on race weekends, Hannah later admitted, 'Every day I wanted to kill everybody and thought about killing them on the weekends.' He viewed racing as pure war and refused to be friendly in the pits with fierce rivals like Kent Howerton or Roger DeCoster."

"When summarizing his attitude toward his peers, Hannah operated on pure intimidation. He openly embraced the idea that he loved to be feared on the track and was entirely selfish when it came to winning." 

RICK JOHNSON: "After a tight championship battle, RJ famously stated on camera, 'If Jeff Ward has a problem, then it's in the cards for me to win... but you know, I don't feel he beat me.' He frequently made it clear that if Ward won, it was due to luck, not skill."

JEFF WARD: "Ward and Johnson hated each other so much they would barely look at one another in the pits. Ward openly admitted that he raced Johnson with the intent to run him wide, block him, and break his spirit. When asked about Johnson’s flashy, charismatic media persona, Ward routinely dismissed it to journalists as 'fake', 'arrogant nonsense', completely refusing to play the 'we are all friends' game that modern riders often fall into"  

Great points—and I had completely forgotten about all that drama back then. Reading about it a week later in Cycle News or months later in MXA just didn’t have the same impact that today’s instant social media does.
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Philly215 wrote:
No, he got penalized for the fake punch. Hayden posted this pic on his Snapchat and then got smoked. I’d bet Jett bangs his mom while Brian sits...

No, he got penalized for the fake punch. 

Hayden posted this pic on his Snapchat and then got smoked. 

I’d bet Jett bangs his mom while Brian sits in the cuck chair watching. 

Totally INAPPROPRIATE. 

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aeffertz wrote:
I love all the “what if Deegan did that?! This place would melt down” “when Deegan wins, this place will melt down” comments. I think most of...

I love all the “what if Deegan did that?! This place would melt down” “when Deegan wins, this place will melt down” comments. 

I think most of his critics just find him to be a douche bag. I can’t stand the guy but if he straight up wins a race, why would I “meltdown?” It’s just fun to poke back at the guy who keeps running his mouth and can’t back it up on the track. Full congratulations to him if he ever wins, it’s not going to bother me in the slightest. At least his comments would actually match the result. Until then, though…  He’s still drama boy that gets bested each weekend. 

How dare you have a nuanced take without emotion. 

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6/22/2026 7:17am

So 4 races in he is in 3rd place in the standings, about where he should be. I guess in my older age I do not get riled up over this stuff. All they want is everyone talking about him and he gets it in spades. Jimmy Weinert said" I do not care what they say about me as long as they are talking about me"

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ando wrote:

It’s a famous quote, attributed to various people including Mike Tyson.

The more subtle version is that no plan survives the first contact with the enemy.

MoogenKen wrote:

/sarcasm

ando wrote:

Sarcasm doesn't work when you have to tell people it was sarcasm.

Maybe reading comprehension isn’t your thing. What I’ve seen of you so far on this board, “You’re an obnoxious little twit”. 

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Of course you guys are being mean, but I truly believe that after Jett died -RIP, Jett- Haiden lost some of that competitive fire. Their rivalry was so intense for so long, and to have lost that with Jett's tragic demise, has really taken a toll on Deegan. I just hope that people show him respect, and give him time to heal.

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6/22/2026 10:12am
MoogenKen wrote:

/sarcasm

ando wrote:

Sarcasm doesn't work when you have to tell people it was sarcasm.

MoogenKen wrote:

Maybe reading comprehension isn’t your thing. What I’ve seen of you so far on this board, “You’re an obnoxious little twit”. 

Medias still pretty one sided read Deegan favoritism, Jett was pissed because Deegan was messing w/Jetts fast qualifying lap, nothing was said about that, I'd of flipped him off too!! Karma though a good thing!!

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What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

Its incredible the lengths they will go to not only make up a narrative but then completely believe it .

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

Orrr just ignore the threads about him?? But you can’t because you’re a Deegan fan so until he starts winning you want ML to clip the threads about him 🤦‍♂️

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Deegan and Webb are at Southwick today and tomarrow testing.

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

Its incredible the lengths they will go to not only make up a narrative but then completely believe it .

You mean like changing your username to include Deegans name just to be a complete troll and literally it is the only thing you post about, hate threads like this are the only ones you post in and somehow takeover the throne of biggest dipshit on Vital (since lil Wolf Girl got banned again…) you talkin about that guy?…

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Poking my head in here to see what's going on....This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have...

Poking my head in here to see what's going on....

This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have those that pretend to be objective but are closet Deegan haters (these guys are the worst). Then you have the Deegan can do no wrong fanboys (these guys are even worse than the closet haters but not by much). Then there is a small contingent of people like me that just enjoy the racing and don't care. Deegan is easily the most polarizing rider right now and it's not even close. What is the old saying "There is no such thing as bad publicity"? 

Some of you get offended for Deegan just trash talking. I remember that everyone was upset how the riders were all nice to each other especially during the Ryans era. 

Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. 

BOB HANNAH: "Hannah famously looked at the starting gate of professional riders and dismissed his competition as 'big fat tubs of goo,' mocking their physical fitness compared to his relentless training regimen." 

"Describing his mental state on race weekends, Hannah later admitted, 'Every day I wanted to kill everybody and thought about killing them on the weekends.' He viewed racing as pure war and refused to be friendly in the pits with fierce rivals like Kent Howerton or Roger DeCoster."

"When summarizing his attitude toward his peers, Hannah operated on pure intimidation. He openly embraced the idea that he loved to be feared on the track and was entirely selfish when it came to winning." 

RICK JOHNSON: "After a tight championship battle, RJ famously stated on camera, 'If Jeff Ward has a problem, then it's in the cards for me to win... but you know, I don't feel he beat me.' He frequently made it clear that if Ward won, it was due to luck, not skill."

JEFF WARD: "Ward and Johnson hated each other so much they would barely look at one another in the pits. Ward openly admitted that he raced Johnson with the intent to run him wide, block him, and break his spirit. When asked about Johnson’s flashy, charismatic media persona, Ward routinely dismissed it to journalists as 'fake', 'arrogant nonsense', completely refusing to play the 'we are all friends' game that modern riders often fall into"  

"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. "

This "back in my day" argument doesn't hold water. I grew up in that era, too, and Hannah, RJ and Wardy talked shit because they genuinely didn't like the guys they talked shit about. Deegan talks shit to generate likes on social media, he doesn't believe a word of what he says. Big difference.

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6/22/2026 4:56pm
ky_savage wrote:

I’m hoping to see Deegan get a holeshot and Jett a not so great start. Then see if Jett hunts him down. 

I loved hearing Deegan say yeah I was catching him in the first moto and then getting smoked by Jett again. hahahahahhaha! Dumb little cunt. 

kawasa84 wrote:
Kinda like when he got around Hunter, who gets praised and comments like Jett shold let him take the lead. Thing is, without Deegs making a...

Kinda like when he got around Hunter, who gets praised and comments like Jett shold let him take the lead. Thing is, without Deegs making a few mistakes, Hunter had nothing for him. Matter of fact, Deegs gapped Hunter by almost 3 seconds before another mistake allowed Hunter to get back on him. If that's not improvement i don't know what is?

 

These threads every week baggin on the guy are just crazy. It's like there are 2 different races being watched. Deegs is way ahead of where I expected him to be. From Pala, where I didn't expect him to finish. From Hangtown where I was again kinda shocked seeing his improvement. To Lakewood, where I was "oh shit" another improvement from just last week. 

If MX fans can't see this. If Jett fans can't see this, then we really are watching different races every week. That why these hater threads are just gutsy and asking for it. 

Look I want to root for Chase, Marchbanks, in the 450 class, so I'm not a fan boy of Deegs, but the races I'm watching, there is trouble coming. Not this season, but if Deegs is healthy going into next outdoor season, the guy is going to be there. Does he win the championship?. I don't think it will be 2027. Does win win moto's? I believe so. I believe if he is healthy, he will "contend" already next year. It's coming guys. 

I wish I could watch the races y'all have watched this year and I wish the haters could watch the races I've watched. That would be cool. For now, boast, yell, scream and hate. Because it's comin. It's comin.    And when it does, well it ain't gonna be pretty. Then y'all can still yell and scream, and even hate. But the boasting? Yeah, the boasting will be done by those guys watching the races y'all aren't watching now.

I couldn’t agree more, the hate that some of these posters have for Deegan is nothing short of visceral. The sad part is, without him each weekend these races would be much more boring. Love him or hate him, I guarantee the majority of these posters are tuning in each week to see how he does. I’m sure right after each Moto they’re running down to mommy‘s basement just to spew more of their hateful posts…

I too am surprised at how well he’s doing this year. I figured he would be a 5 to 10 guy till about halfway through the season. Instead, he’s proven himself to be that solid third place racer from his very first 450 race. Each week he seems to be inching up on the leaders and improving in all areas of his riding. I have a feeling that by seasons end he’ll consistently be battling for second place.

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Sully wrote:
"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing...

"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. "

This "back in my day" argument doesn't hold water. I grew up in that era, too, and Hannah, RJ and Wardy talked shit because they genuinely didn't like the guys they talked shit about. Deegan talks shit to generate likes on social media, he doesn't believe a word of what he says. Big difference.

So if Haiden genuinely didn't like his competitors...

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Sully wrote:
"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing...

"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. "

This "back in my day" argument doesn't hold water. I grew up in that era, too, and Hannah, RJ and Wardy talked shit because they genuinely didn't like the guys they talked shit about. Deegan talks shit to generate likes on social media, he doesn't believe a word of what he says. Big difference.

So if Haiden genuinely didn't like his competitors...

So if Haiden genuinely didn't like his competitors...

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Uh, yeah sure, lady. Whatever you say...

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I think result wise, Haiden is doing well, he is the 3rd guy. No he is not as good as Jett and Hunter (maybe he will, maybe he won't), but he is better than Prado, Hampshire, Ferrandis and Marchbanks. How good compare to Sexton, Cooper or Eli ? We don't know. Emi might never come back as fiercly. Chase might need a reset.

Outside of the track, his 450 rookie season is ridiculous though :

  • Talk about the girlfriend of a guy you have yet to beat
  • Cut the track and say that you're close to the leader already
  • Push the nerves of you're opponent during practice.

The 2 faces of Deegan, great rider, weird character.

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Sully wrote:

Uh, yeah sure, lady. Whatever you say...

Bob Hannah never stuck his tongue out.  Dont compare the two. 

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Sully wrote:

Uh, yeah sure, lady. Whatever you say...

yardsailor wrote:

Bob Hannah never stuck his tongue out.  Dont compare the two. 

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

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Poking my head in here to see what's going on....This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have...

Poking my head in here to see what's going on....

This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have those that pretend to be objective but are closet Deegan haters (these guys are the worst). Then you have the Deegan can do no wrong fanboys (these guys are even worse than the closet haters but not by much). Then there is a small contingent of people like me that just enjoy the racing and don't care. Deegan is easily the most polarizing rider right now and it's not even close. What is the old saying "There is no such thing as bad publicity"? 

Some of you get offended for Deegan just trash talking. I remember that everyone was upset how the riders were all nice to each other especially during the Ryans era. 

Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. 

BOB HANNAH: "Hannah famously looked at the starting gate of professional riders and dismissed his competition as 'big fat tubs of goo,' mocking their physical fitness compared to his relentless training regimen." 

"Describing his mental state on race weekends, Hannah later admitted, 'Every day I wanted to kill everybody and thought about killing them on the weekends.' He viewed racing as pure war and refused to be friendly in the pits with fierce rivals like Kent Howerton or Roger DeCoster."

"When summarizing his attitude toward his peers, Hannah operated on pure intimidation. He openly embraced the idea that he loved to be feared on the track and was entirely selfish when it came to winning." 

RICK JOHNSON: "After a tight championship battle, RJ famously stated on camera, 'If Jeff Ward has a problem, then it's in the cards for me to win... but you know, I don't feel he beat me.' He frequently made it clear that if Ward won, it was due to luck, not skill."

JEFF WARD: "Ward and Johnson hated each other so much they would barely look at one another in the pits. Ward openly admitted that he raced Johnson with the intent to run him wide, block him, and break his spirit. When asked about Johnson’s flashy, charismatic media persona, Ward routinely dismissed it to journalists as 'fake', 'arrogant nonsense', completely refusing to play the 'we are all friends' game that modern riders often fall into"  

Sully wrote:
"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing...

"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. "

This "back in my day" argument doesn't hold water. I grew up in that era, too, and Hannah, RJ and Wardy talked shit because they genuinely didn't like the guys they talked shit about. Deegan talks shit to generate likes on social media, he doesn't believe a word of what he says. Big difference.

That's a completely different argument.

The criticism around Deegan is usually that he talks trash, creates drama, and isn't respectful enough. My point was that motocross has always had stars who did exactly that.

Now you're saying Hannah, Johnson, and Ward were allowed to do it because they really meant it, while Deegan is doing it for attention. Unless you're a mind reader, you have no idea whether that's true.

And even if it is true, so what?

If Deegan is saying things that get fans, media, riders, and entire message boards talking about him nonstop, then he's doing exactly what stars in the sport have always done.

What's funny is how thin-skinned fans have become. We constantly hear people on Vital and other places complain that racers today have no personality, everybody gives the same canned interviews, and nobody says anything interesting. Then the moment someone talks a little trash, half the motocross world acts like Deegan committed a felony.

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6/23/2026 9:59am
mattbmx63 wrote:

Deegan and Webb are at Southwick today and tomarrow testing.

Wonder if it's practicing what excuses he'll make when he, again, loses to Jett and Hunter. 

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6/23/2026 9:59am Edited Date/Time 6/23/2026 10:03am
Poking my head in here to see what's going on....This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have...

Poking my head in here to see what's going on....

This thread is fascinating... you have the clear Deegan haters who spout utter nonsense. Then you have those that pretend to be objective but are closet Deegan haters (these guys are the worst). Then you have the Deegan can do no wrong fanboys (these guys are even worse than the closet haters but not by much). Then there is a small contingent of people like me that just enjoy the racing and don't care. Deegan is easily the most polarizing rider right now and it's not even close. What is the old saying "There is no such thing as bad publicity"? 

Some of you get offended for Deegan just trash talking. I remember that everyone was upset how the riders were all nice to each other especially during the Ryans era. 

Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. 

BOB HANNAH: "Hannah famously looked at the starting gate of professional riders and dismissed his competition as 'big fat tubs of goo,' mocking their physical fitness compared to his relentless training regimen." 

"Describing his mental state on race weekends, Hannah later admitted, 'Every day I wanted to kill everybody and thought about killing them on the weekends.' He viewed racing as pure war and refused to be friendly in the pits with fierce rivals like Kent Howerton or Roger DeCoster."

"When summarizing his attitude toward his peers, Hannah operated on pure intimidation. He openly embraced the idea that he loved to be feared on the track and was entirely selfish when it came to winning." 

RICK JOHNSON: "After a tight championship battle, RJ famously stated on camera, 'If Jeff Ward has a problem, then it's in the cards for me to win... but you know, I don't feel he beat me.' He frequently made it clear that if Ward won, it was due to luck, not skill."

JEFF WARD: "Ward and Johnson hated each other so much they would barely look at one another in the pits. Ward openly admitted that he raced Johnson with the intent to run him wide, block him, and break his spirit. When asked about Johnson’s flashy, charismatic media persona, Ward routinely dismissed it to journalists as 'fake', 'arrogant nonsense', completely refusing to play the 'we are all friends' game that modern riders often fall into"  

Sully wrote:
"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing...

"Glad y'all didn't grow up in my era because you would've HATED Hannah. Other greats such as Rick Johnson and Jeff Ward did the same thing. "

This "back in my day" argument doesn't hold water. I grew up in that era, too, and Hannah, RJ and Wardy talked shit because they genuinely didn't like the guys they talked shit about. Deegan talks shit to generate likes on social media, he doesn't believe a word of what he says. Big difference.

That's a completely different argument.The criticism around Deegan is usually that he talks trash, creates drama, and isn't respectful enough. My point was that motocross has...

That's a completely different argument.

The criticism around Deegan is usually that he talks trash, creates drama, and isn't respectful enough. My point was that motocross has always had stars who did exactly that.

Now you're saying Hannah, Johnson, and Ward were allowed to do it because they really meant it, while Deegan is doing it for attention. Unless you're a mind reader, you have no idea whether that's true.

And even if it is true, so what?

If Deegan is saying things that get fans, media, riders, and entire message boards talking about him nonstop, then he's doing exactly what stars in the sport have always done.

What's funny is how thin-skinned fans have become. We constantly hear people on Vital and other places complain that racers today have no personality, everybody gives the same canned interviews, and nobody says anything interesting. Then the moment someone talks a little trash, half the motocross world acts like Deegan committed a felony.

The "really meant it" bit is false equivocation with authenticity. Friese and Jason lawrence are authentic. They're actual villains. They don't make excuses for what they do. They don't have to make up stories about their shortcomings to nurture their egos. 

Saying there's deegan and everyone else is a false dichotomy. You can have personality and not be a fake sociopath.  Putting deegan on the level of Hannah or RJ is an insult to their manhood. When Hannah compliments decoster, you know he means it. When RC or deegan compliment someone, there's always some hidden condescension or patronizing tone, because they're so afraid of feeling less than (like a woman)

Calling people thin skinned because they call out poor character when they see it is rather disingenuous. There's a difference between being easily personally offended and disgust. Deegan falls into that uncanny valley of human behavior for a lot of folks and this triggers a response of disgust. 

 

Just really disingenuous equivocation and semantic looseness all around on your part. 

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

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Thanks for reinforcing my point guys. Hard to not skip the Deegan threads when every single link turns into one. If you guys enjoy this, then I guess this is the future. Have fun.

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Jkawi wrote:
Thanks for reinforcing my point guys. Hard to not skip the Deegan threads when every single link turns into one. If you guys enjoy this, then...

Thanks for reinforcing my point guys. Hard to not skip the Deegan threads when every single link turns into one. If you guys enjoy this, then I guess this is the future. Have fun.

It appears that we have lost Deegan Realist...he has gone the way of Herr Wolf Licker….good riddance…

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

yak651 wrote:
Orrr just ignore the threads about him?? But you can’t because you’re a Deegan fan so until he starts winning you want ML to clip the...

Orrr just ignore the threads about him?? But you can’t because you’re a Deegan fan so until he starts winning you want ML to clip the threads about him 🤦‍♂️

So you click on these threads so you can take part in the whining and bullshit?

The first part of your post is correct, but see my post above. The second part of your post is VERY far off base.

Let's see how many assumptions come flying out of your ass based on that... ffs.

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Jkawi wrote:
Thanks for reinforcing my point guys. Hard to not skip the Deegan threads when every single link turns into one. If you guys enjoy this, then...

Thanks for reinforcing my point guys. Hard to not skip the Deegan threads when every single link turns into one. If you guys enjoy this, then I guess this is the future. Have fun.

DonM wrote:

It appears that we have lost Deegan Realist...he has gone the way of Herr Wolf Licker….good riddance…

Thank god. One down, 8,000 to go...

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Tyler D wrote:
The "really meant it" bit is false equivocation with authenticity. Friese and Jason lawrence are authentic. They're actual villains. They don't make excuses for what they...

The "really meant it" bit is false equivocation with authenticity. Friese and Jason lawrence are authentic. They're actual villains. They don't make excuses for what they do. They don't have to make up stories about their shortcomings to nurture their egos. 

Saying there's deegan and everyone else is a false dichotomy. You can have personality and not be a fake sociopath.  Putting deegan on the level of Hannah or RJ is an insult to their manhood. When Hannah compliments decoster, you know he means it. When RC or deegan compliment someone, there's always some hidden condescension or patronizing tone, because they're so afraid of feeling less than (like a woman)

Calling people thin skinned because they call out poor character when they see it is rather disingenuous. There's a difference between being easily personally offended and disgust. Deegan falls into that uncanny valley of human behavior for a lot of folks and this triggers a response of disgust. 

 

Just really disingenuous equivocation and semantic looseness all around on your part. 

Your responses are by no means normal, and are disproportionate to anything Deegan has done.

Bob Hannah took out an obituary on Keith Bowen and threatened to break Kent Howerton's leg and people think he's a legend.

Deegan wears a RIP Jett shirt and cuts off his fast lap, and the haters act like he committed a crime against humanity.  It really is laughable. 

av1l2v

 

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Jkawi wrote:
What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is...

What a lot of you guys are doing goes faaarrr beyond just not being a fan of Deegan, or "not having respect" for him. It is a clear obsession at this point and blatantly disrespectful. I don't give a shit what he has done, don't race to the bottom of humanity. The deegan haters have ruined my favorite forum on the internet. Just stop talking about it ffs. I am so sick of the grown men trash talking an 18 or 19 yr old or whatever he is. Its fuckin disgusting, and you are worse than Deegan (s) could ever be. I would bet half these guys are thinking about Haiden while they are getting blown by their boyfriends. 

Like where are all these "bed bug" Deegan fans you guys talk about? I haven't seen any, other than the one guy on here with a satirical account, who now holds the prize as the funniest troll account since inception here. You can not be a fan without being a terrible human.

It's so one sided now, that here I am sticking up for the guy. Get a life people. Stop watching his interviews and socials. Either that or get some mental help. Are you guys MX fans, or just reality TV drama fans? Cause it is really looking like the latter.

You're guys' delusion is turning me into a Deegan fan, cause I like that you are the ones getting torn apart every weekend mentally. And you fucking deserve it a lot more than the Deegan's do.

Enjoy the racing. Stop watching his IG. He is making it more exciting on the track for any true fans of the sport.

Down vote away. And fuck all of you that do for making it so no one can talk objectively about anything that involves any rider here without it devolving into a shit hole.

ML, you are going to lose a pile of members here if this doesn't get addressed. I can't stand this place since nationals started. Maybe a whole separate forum website for the people that are more interested in Deegan than the racing? I dunno. It's at that point.

yak651 wrote:
Orrr just ignore the threads about him?? But you can’t because you’re a Deegan fan so until he starts winning you want ML to clip the...

Orrr just ignore the threads about him?? But you can’t because you’re a Deegan fan so until he starts winning you want ML to clip the threads about him 🤦‍♂️

Jkawi wrote:
So you click on these threads so you can take part in the whining and bullshit?The first part of your post is correct, but see my...

So you click on these threads so you can take part in the whining and bullshit?

The first part of your post is correct, but see my post above. The second part of your post is VERY far off base.

Let's see how many assumptions come flying out of your ass based on that... ffs.

So you didn’t request ML clip the Deegan thread(s)? 

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