Prado - Post High Point

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found myself hoping #38 would punt him........that's a strange feeling to pulling for the  38

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6/22/2026 11:31am
Yeah, those Euros always struggle when they leave their homes, uproot their lives to race overseas in a new series on different bikes, to prove their...

Yeah, those Euros always struggle when they leave their homes, uproot their lives to race overseas in a new series on different bikes, to prove their speed against riders completely acclimatised to racing where they've raced their whole lives. Not like all the AMA riders who kill it when they go over to race the GP's.

Oh wait...

You ever heard of the Chamberlain Trophy

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aees sure has been quiet . . . 

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6/22/2026 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2026 12:43pm
30minmotos wrote:
I love how nobody believes Prado. He tells you what it is, and then we all go speculating. He told you what it was last year...

I love how nobody believes Prado. He tells you what it is, and then we all go speculating. He told you what it was last year and I’ll be damned if it wasn’t the truth. And he’s telling you what it is this year.

crusty_xx wrote:
I wanna believe him and I do think he'll get better. This is FAR from 2024 Prado.But I'm still puzzled about things like dropping 4 seconds...

I wanna believe him and I do think he'll get better. This is FAR from 2024 Prado.
But I'm still puzzled about things like dropping 4 seconds a lap after Deegan passed him for multiple laps. 

Fitness.  Even though he’s older, Prado lacks the “man strength” necessary to go 30 +2 WFO like Deegan can.  Deegan is still lacking the skills to...

Fitness.  Even though he’s older, Prado lacks the “man strength” necessary to go 30 +2 WFO like Deegan can.  Deegan is still lacking the skills to match the Lawrences’ pace for a whole moto, but I’d argue there might not be anyone in the field (except maybe Chase) that is stronger and fitter than 38.  If Prado was strong enough to run 100% for an entire moto, I don’t think Deegan would get close to him yet.  38 is still refining his technique to reach his potential on 450s.  This is coming from someone who is not a fan of Deegan the character, but it’s hard not to be a fan of Deegan the racer.

He ran 07s and 08s all moto. Gets passed by Deegan and drops to multiple 11s (3-4 sec slower A LAP). Then AP catches up and he's back to 2:07s. Deegan passed him before the 15min mark. If this is fitness related then I dont know what fitness means.

But agreed that Deegan is fitter. He did fade in some motos but I think he'll learn how to go just as fast without wasting as much energy. Once he figures that out he'll be a lot better throughout the moto

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devotid wrote:

"Break him"

Hahahahaha, What an idiot... Dude is barely breaking wind.

 

Mavetism wrote:

Yea, that pitboard was criminal. What's his name completely took off after that 😂

"What's his name" 🤣

 

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6/22/2026 12:39pm Edited Date/Time 6/23/2026 6:26am
crusty_xx wrote:
I wanna believe him and I do think he'll get better. This is FAR from 2024 Prado.But I'm still puzzled about things like dropping 4 seconds...

I wanna believe him and I do think he'll get better. This is FAR from 2024 Prado.
But I'm still puzzled about things like dropping 4 seconds a lap after Deegan passed him for multiple laps. 

Fitness.  Even though he’s older, Prado lacks the “man strength” necessary to go 30 +2 WFO like Deegan can.  Deegan is still lacking the skills to...

Fitness.  Even though he’s older, Prado lacks the “man strength” necessary to go 30 +2 WFO like Deegan can.  Deegan is still lacking the skills to match the Lawrences’ pace for a whole moto, but I’d argue there might not be anyone in the field (except maybe Chase) that is stronger and fitter than 38.  If Prado was strong enough to run 100% for an entire moto, I don’t think Deegan would get close to him yet.  38 is still refining his technique to reach his potential on 450s.  This is coming from someone who is not a fan of Deegan the character, but it’s hard not to be a fan of Deegan the racer.

crusty_xx wrote:
He ran 07s and 08s all moto. Gets passed by Deegan and drops to multiple 11s (3-4 sec slower A LAP). Then AP catches up and...

He ran 07s and 08s all moto. Gets passed by Deegan and drops to multiple 11s (3-4 sec slower A LAP). Then AP catches up and he's back to 2:07s. Deegan passed him before the 15min mark. If this is fitness related then I dont know what fitness means.

But agreed that Deegan is fitter. He did fade in some motos but I think he'll learn how to go just as fast without wasting as much energy. Once he figures that out he'll be a lot better throughout the moto

I don't think it was AP that caused him to wake up as much as his old green bike that was about to blow by him

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30minmotos wrote:
I love how nobody believes Prado. He tells you what it is, and then we all go speculating. He told you what it was last year...

I love how nobody believes Prado. He tells you what it is, and then we all go speculating. He told you what it was last year and I’ll be damned if it wasn’t the truth. And he’s telling you what it is this year.

crusty_xx wrote:
I wanna believe him and I do think he'll get better. This is FAR from 2024 Prado.But I'm still puzzled about things like dropping 4 seconds...

I wanna believe him and I do think he'll get better. This is FAR from 2024 Prado.
But I'm still puzzled about things like dropping 4 seconds a lap after Deegan passed him for multiple laps. 

Fitness.  Even though he’s older, Prado lacks the “man strength” necessary to go 30 +2 WFO like Deegan can.  Deegan is still lacking the skills to...

Fitness.  Even though he’s older, Prado lacks the “man strength” necessary to go 30 +2 WFO like Deegan can.  Deegan is still lacking the skills to match the Lawrences’ pace for a whole moto, but I’d argue there might not be anyone in the field (except maybe Chase) that is stronger and fitter than 38.  If Prado was strong enough to run 100% for an entire moto, I don’t think Deegan would get close to him yet.  38 is still refining his technique to reach his potential on 450s.  This is coming from someone who is not a fan of Deegan the character, but it’s hard not to be a fan of Deegan the racer.

I agree to an extent about the fitness , however , his giving up on the kawi and giving up the fight when he gets passed tell the story imo....that is not a dig on him whatsoever .  Just my imo...To say the kawi was so bad after riding it and then signing the contract also speaks volumes to me. This sport demands the absolute best to be a winner and if your a scosche off , your not winning. I can see how that has a very defeating effect on these athletes. Again , not a dig on him at all , i just believe he gets "broke" and it shows alot more than the other guys.

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maybe I'm tainted because of the Prado's attitude last year...but he just seems so mentally fragile to me...holeshot, he is mentally strong enough to run up front the entire moto...bad start, mentally weak and he flounders around...caught and passed by someone he knows/thinks is faster (deegan), and mentally he just doesn't engage and they gap him...caught/almost caught by someone he thinks is slower than him (Marchbanks/AP7), and he mentally picks it up to beat him. 

Maybe he needs a sports phycologist or something...

 

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Eh, I feel like your judgement of the 2024 season is a little cloudy. Yes, Jorge had some rides that were far better than what he's...

Eh, I feel like your judgement of the 2024 season is a little cloudy. Yes, Jorge had some rides that were far better than what he's shown in 2023 (like Sweden and that first Spanish round). But it wasn't like "he had so much more speed" than Jeffrey and Tim. Tim was actually really close on winning the title in 2024, if not for his footpeg breaking off at the penultimate round. Jorge made 19 points on Tim that weekend, yet won the title with 10 points over. You could argue Tim could've won the title if not for that freak accident with only 4 motos to go. Tim also had the red plate still at that point.

wrc777 wrote:

Prado also had mechanical issues in 2024 they were just earlier in the season. His seat fell off in one race.

NVA57 wrote:
He lost his seat in a qualifying race. He scored 0 points in one moto because of a start crash and decided to call it a...

He lost his seat in a qualifying race. He scored 0 points in one moto because of a start crash and decided to call it a day. No mechanicals that season other than a piss poor performance in the mud.

Agree, Prado was not good at all in the mud in 2024 and that was going to cost him. Gajser probably would have won that title except what happened at the end.

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Prado has definitely picked up his pace this year in both SX and outdoors but he still needs to keep up the race pace up for all 30 min + 2 laps

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To me, the biggest disappointment was seeing him back it down immediately after Deegan passed him. It cost him points because he would've finished 4th with ease if he would've kept going at a 2:08-2:09 pace (which he could've done no problem).

It's pretty obvious that he is the best of the rest after the brothers and Deegan, which is decent but nothing more than that. We're only 4 rounds in this summer but it's kinda crazy that his highlights of the season are from the SX part of the season.

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GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

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6/23/2026 5:46am
GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

“Extra effort” has never been George’s strong suit.  

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GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

“Extra effort” has never been George’s strong suit.  

That I don't agree with. Just watch the races in MXGP. He was challenging Herlings on 250 when Herlings was going for 250 title on sand tracks.

All riders back off of they feel they don't have it, I mean Jett went from 5sec to 15 sec back on Hunter and it wasn't because Hunter went quicker. Extra effort would have put him within 5sec crossing the line.

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6/23/2026 7:04am
Yeah, those Euros always struggle when they leave their homes, uproot their lives to race overseas in a new series on different bikes, to prove their...

Yeah, those Euros always struggle when they leave their homes, uproot their lives to race overseas in a new series on different bikes, to prove their speed against riders completely acclimatised to racing where they've raced their whole lives. Not like all the AMA riders who kill it when they go over to race the GP's.

Oh wait...

You ever heard of the Chamberlain Trophy

That one-off race where riders travel once along with a team and entourage, then go back once the weekend is over.? The one where the logistics seem to be "too much" these last few years?

Sure. What's it got to do with uprooting your life for a year or more to race a whole series (and have to learn SX on express-mode usually) , and all the paperwork and cultural change that comes with it..? 🙄

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Yeah, those Euros always struggle when they leave their homes, uproot their lives to race overseas in a new series on different bikes, to prove their...

Yeah, those Euros always struggle when they leave their homes, uproot their lives to race overseas in a new series on different bikes, to prove their speed against riders completely acclimatised to racing where they've raced their whole lives. Not like all the AMA riders who kill it when they go over to race the GP's.

Oh wait...

You ever heard of the Chamberlain Trophy

That one-off race where riders travel once along with a team and entourage, then go back once the weekend is over.? The one where the logistics...

That one-off race where riders travel once along with a team and entourage, then go back once the weekend is over.? The one where the logistics seem to be "too much" these last few years?

Sure. What's it got to do with uprooting your life for a year or more to race a whole series (and have to learn SX on express-mode usually) , and all the paperwork and cultural change that comes with it..? 🙄

Well there is this thing called money….

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6/23/2026 10:32am
GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

I can't tell if you're his biggest fan or one of those satirical troll accounts that pretends to defend someone while actually and intentionally making them look terrible.

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6/25/2026 7:31am

You ever heard of the Chamberlain Trophy

That one-off race where riders travel once along with a team and entourage, then go back once the weekend is over.? The one where the logistics...

That one-off race where riders travel once along with a team and entourage, then go back once the weekend is over.? The one where the logistics seem to be "too much" these last few years?

Sure. What's it got to do with uprooting your life for a year or more to race a whole series (and have to learn SX on express-mode usually) , and all the paperwork and cultural change that comes with it..? 🙄

DonM wrote:

Well there is this thing called money….

Still doesn't change the hard work involved to come over and earn it.

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6/25/2026 8:33am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2026 4:22pm
GrapeApe wrote:
I can't tell if you're his biggest fan or one of those satirical troll accounts that pretends to defend someone while actually and intentionally making them...

I can't tell if you're his biggest fan or one of those satirical troll accounts that pretends to defend someone while actually and intentionally making them look terrible.

It is sometimes difficult to tell if someone is being serious or not. I'm not sure if it was on here or the Instagrams, but someone had commented, 3 rounds into the outdoor season, that Prado was backing it down and saving himself for the SX season 😆 Serious or satire?

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GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

lol, so he’s quitting again when things don’t go his way? What a heart of a champion he has!

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GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

So you now admit he gives up (see: quitter) when theres nothing to race for? what about results? what about $$$? Reputation? A better contract?

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GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

Jkawi wrote:

So you now admit he gives up (see: quitter) when theres nothing to race for? what about results? what about $$$? Reputation? A better contract?

Not only does he admit it he embodies it….

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Jett or anybody else backs it down - managing the race or position. Is anybody saying Jett is a quitter for not catching Hunter. Clearly he doesn't have it anymore.

Prado backs it down. Quitter. 

Last year was last year, let it go. You all are starting to act like Wolfman/HerrLich with "fat Webb" memes. 

signed aees2

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6/25/2026 12:28pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2026 12:28pm

Being back east will help him, training wise.

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6/25/2026 12:31pm
GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

You would think that a first win in AMA pro motocross would not only be worth racing for, but also be considered a prerequisite to being a legitimate title contender. 

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Fraudo is very inconsistent and overly emotional. Not a good look. Can he change? Of course, anyone can. Will he? Remains to be seen.

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Jett or anybody else backs it down - managing the race or position. Is anybody saying Jett is a quitter for not catching Hunter. Clearly he...

Jett or anybody else backs it down - managing the race or position. Is anybody saying Jett is a quitter for not catching Hunter. Clearly he doesn't have it anymore.

Prado backs it down. Quitter. 

Last year was last year, let it go. You all are starting to act like Wolfman/HerrLich with "fat Webb" memes. 

signed aees2

Jett clearly only played roadblock for Hunter (that's at least what people said when Hunter always got 2nd last year).

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Jett or anybody else backs it down - managing the race or position. Is anybody saying Jett is a quitter for not catching Hunter. Clearly he...

Jett or anybody else backs it down - managing the race or position. Is anybody saying Jett is a quitter for not catching Hunter. Clearly he doesn't have it anymore.

Prado backs it down. Quitter. 

Last year was last year, let it go. You all are starting to act like Wolfman/HerrLich with "fat Webb" memes. 

signed aees2

Mavetism wrote:

Jett clearly only played roadblock for Hunter (that's at least what people said when Hunter always got 2nd last year).

People say lots of things, and most of it’s bullshit.

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I expected more from Prado than what he’s shown so far. I hope he gets it together and mixes it up for the lead in motos soon. 

One thing that I can say about the Prado ‘experiment’ is that it has really made me appreciate how much work and effort that Vialle put in while he was in the US…..

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GrapeApe wrote:

aees sure has been quiet . . . 

aees wrote:
Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can...

Already said it, air went completely out after that DNF. Nothing to race for. 

Lawrence's hard to get anyway. Deegs unless he improves I think he can run with. It's early in the season, I hope he will put some extra effort into southwick and some east coast tracks at least. 

You would think that a first win in AMA pro motocross would not only be worth racing for, but also be considered a prerequisite to being...

You would think that a first win in AMA pro motocross would not only be worth racing for, but also be considered a prerequisite to being a legitimate title contender. 

If you are a racer, you know you feel it already at practise or first half of a lap after gate drop if there is a chance you can keep up or not.

As Carmichael said, you could feel if a pipe was gonna work or not rolling from the pits to track entry. 

I think you will see him go for it when it is there, if not just play it safe. RJ, Forkner, Ferrandis, Jordon, Malcolm is good examples of what happens when you push it over the line to often. Even deegan is pushing it. No championship? Back it down 1 sec and play it safe.

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