Deegan blatantly cutting the track

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????  So Rich Simmonds ACTUAL words were 'where he was cutti9ng the track'  so he admitted his rider was guilty but it should have been ok, going by that that where else would it be ok to cut the track????

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6/17/2026 1:03pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2026 1:04pm

The GOAT has spoken. Confirming the sport is getting more pussified by the day.

he gave the most narcissistic immature take possible. "i hate those things". cool story bro. meanwhile RV is actually coming up with reasonable talking points (theyre bad but theyre better than MXGP fence netting, maybe they could try earthworks instead, etc)

the "goat" who threatened to quit if they didn't overturn his fuel cheating penalty, didn't want to share a test track with anyone, and cant string a coherent sentence together, really doesn't have that much credibility 

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When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

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Paul333 wrote:
Its not complicated. Cutting the track isn't legal. Deegandashian got penalized. Thats not rocket science. He did it blatently for 6-7 laps desperate to get a...

Its not complicated. Cutting the track isn't legal. Deegandashian got penalized. Thats not rocket science. He did it blatently for 6-7 laps desperate to get a social media video of him passing Jett even if it only lasted for a turn or two it was worth it to them to pretend they are "Rivals"..

Sadly for the Deegandashian clan Jett didn't need to cheat and still smoked him. 

I hadnt even thought about this, I bet you thats exactly what he was thinking. 

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jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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The GOAT has spoken. Confirming the sport is getting more pussified by the day.

Paul333 wrote:
So "Back In The Day" blatantly cutting the track "Wasn't An Issue"? Says the two Monster Energy personal sponsored guys, on a show sponsored by Monster...

So "Back In The Day" blatantly cutting the track "Wasn't An Issue"? Says the two Monster Energy personal sponsored guys, on a show sponsored by Monster, about a series sponsored by Monster, while wearing Monster hats...

Every local C rider knows you can't cut the track. 

Shows the power Monster has in this industry. 

If the Deegandashians ever truly start winning the sport is screwed. 

The guy that threatened to quit if his penalty was enforced is ok with someone cheating? You don’t say…

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jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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So he was top 5 around the first corner, clearly cut the track multiple times, didn’t win yet was the fastest guy…got it

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jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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The GOAT has spoken. Confirming the sport is getting more pussified by the day.

Tyler D wrote:
he gave the most narcissistic immature take possible. "i hate those things". cool story bro. meanwhile RV is actually coming up with reasonable talking points (theyre...

he gave the most narcissistic immature take possible. "i hate those things". cool story bro. meanwhile RV is actually coming up with reasonable talking points (theyre bad but theyre better than MXGP fence netting, maybe they could try earthworks instead, etc)

the "goat" who threatened to quit if they didn't overturn his fuel cheating penalty, didn't want to share a test track with anyone, and cant string a coherent sentence together, really doesn't have that much credibility 

RC has no credibility?  He has 150 wins of credibility, and his fuel had trace amounts of lead, not enough for a performance gain so saying RC was cheating (when they knew fuel was tested post-race) is laughable.  

Too bad you have to shit on one of the all-time greats because he didn't say what you wanted him too say about Deegan.  

 

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The GOAT has spoken. Confirming the sport is getting more pussified by the day.

Tyler D wrote:
he gave the most narcissistic immature take possible. "i hate those things". cool story bro. meanwhile RV is actually coming up with reasonable talking points (theyre...

he gave the most narcissistic immature take possible. "i hate those things". cool story bro. meanwhile RV is actually coming up with reasonable talking points (theyre bad but theyre better than MXGP fence netting, maybe they could try earthworks instead, etc)

the "goat" who threatened to quit if they didn't overturn his fuel cheating penalty, didn't want to share a test track with anyone, and cant string a coherent sentence together, really doesn't have that much credibility 

RC has no credibility?  He has 150 wins of credibility, and his fuel had trace amounts of lead, not enough for a performance gain so saying...

RC has no credibility?  He has 150 wins of credibility, and his fuel had trace amounts of lead, not enough for a performance gain so saying RC was cheating (when they knew fuel was tested post-race) is laughable.  

Too bad you have to shit on one of the all-time greats because he didn't say what you wanted him too say about Deegan.  

 

Not projection or anything bro...Meanwhile you completely ignore RVs cosigning of the penalty. 

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6/17/2026 4:56pm
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RC trying to justify it so he can stay in Deegans good graces. 

Spike33 wrote:

A difference of opinion doesn’t always mean there’s a hidden agenda, elder sogg. 

soggy wrote:
Doesn’t matter. His whole point is he doesn’t like track markers, which doesn’t matter. Even if there were no track markers a peewee would know that...

Doesn’t matter. His whole point is he doesn’t like track markers, which doesn’t matter. Even if there were no track markers a peewee would know that area isn’t part of the track. 

"Even if there were no track markers a peewee would know that area isn’t part of the track. "

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. 🤣

Be well brother!

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Blatant cross jumping. Could have killed them both. Should the AMA look in to this?

For an actual real cross jump with actual real consequences refer to this thread.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/deegan-cross-jump-mcadoo?page=0

And here is the penalty report for that event.

https://americanmotorcyclist.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Penalty-Report-Anaheim-1-2.pdf

 

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6/17/2026 6:59pm

Blatant cross jumping. Could have killed them both. Should the AMA look in to this?

gerg wrote:

For an actual real cross jump with actual real consequences refer to this thread.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/deegan-cross-jump-mcadoo?page=0

And here is the penalty report for that event.

https://americanmotorcyclist.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Penalty-Report-Anaheim-1-2.pdf

 

So nothing shy of this is an actual real cross jump?

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6/17/2026 7:15pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2026 7:16pm

Jett straight jumped that first single, his bars didnt turn at all on the face. That was just his race line. Deegan decided to cut the track an appear in a spot where Jett was already going.

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I love how the press is acting like deegan really stepped it up this weekend, he was running with them! Was he though? He looked like he...

I love how the press is acting like deegan really stepped it up this weekend, he was running with them!

 

Was he though? He looked like he was completely riding over his head, making mistakes everywhere, cutting the track, then 2 crashes. I can kind of hang with some A riders for a lap or 2, but I'm absolutely terrified when doing it. Just because I can hang for a lap or 2 doesn't mean I'm that fast. It just means I'm dumb enough to ride above my ability level (mid pack B ) sometimes. I'm definitely out of control when doing it, and I'm well aware of that.

 

How can people in the press not see the same thing with him?

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Hate to break it to you, but if you don’t think Deegan rode better this weekend then you’re completely clueless. Of course he’s gonna look uncomfortable...

Hate to break it to you, but if you don’t think Deegan rode better this weekend then you’re completely clueless. Of course he’s gonna look uncomfortable riding at the Lawrence Brothers speed, this level of riding is new to him. The only way for him to get comfortable at these speeds is to keep forcing himself out of his comfort zone for longer periods of time. He did that this weekend and was able to hang with the leaders in Moto 1 for a few laps and even managed a pass for second place and applied pressure to the leader. Both, are something he’s never done before and he’s only had raced MX four times previously.


Like it or not, Deegan is definitely trending in the right direction: starts are getting better and more consistent, he is advancing through the pack quicker, managed to pass for second place, applying pressure to the leader for longer periods of time. These are all good signs for him and what eventually leads to winning races. 

Note, I’m very well of the “creative line” he took during Moto 1. Honestly, I don’t really blame him as he’s trying just about everything to reach a guy that’s faster than him.

The Danger zone might get dangerous

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Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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James does a great job of explaining track segments. Especially at Thunder Valley. 

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tl;dr but people seem to forget Brian Deegan in his Team Moto XXX days was well known for finding the shortest distance "around" the track.

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jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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That might be the case, but that does not excuse any rider (no matter who it is) doing it now. I just do not think you can monitor it every corner every lap. If you are a top racer and therefore have more tv camera time on you then why would you even cut the track (unless accidental) ?

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6/17/2026 8:07pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2026 8:07pm

Blatant cross jumping. Could have killed them both. Should the AMA look in to this?

Does not look like blatant cross jumping to me, even if it was are you forgetting what Deegan did to Shimoda or conveniently forgetting that ? ... that was blatant ! 

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Blatant cross jumping. Could have killed them both. Should the AMA look in to this?

gerg wrote:

For an actual real cross jump with actual real consequences refer to this thread.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/deegan-cross-jump-mcadoo?page=0

And here is the penalty report for that event.

https://americanmotorcyclist.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Penalty-Report-Anaheim-1-2.pdf

 

So nothing shy of this is an actual real cross jump?

Bed bugs are lying hypocrites.  

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Blatant cross jumping. Could have killed them both. Should the AMA look in to this?

Clickbait youtuber.

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jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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How in the hell can you have "the fastest lap" in 3 or 4 sectors of a racetrack? 

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6/18/2026 12:00am
jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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vet323 wrote:

How in the hell can you have "the fastest lap" in 3 or 4 sectors of a racetrack? 

By cutting the track!

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vet323 wrote:

How in the hell can you have "the fastest lap" in 3 or 4 sectors of a racetrack? 

Meant to say...fastest time.

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To mention DV on his youtube channel :

 

"Intelligence is chasing him, but he’s running faster"

😅😅😅

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jnickell wrote:
When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the...

When asked about the term "coherent sentences", a well-known former racer replied, "I hate those things."

I was surprised to hear both RC and RV claim the track cutting didn't make much of a difference.  You could see a massive gain, especially when he used the edge of the track as a berm. As others mentioned, Jett looked over when he was surprised by how close Deegan got to him. I also found it funny that Deegan said he was catching Jett all over the track anyway, or something to that effect.

If Deegs tried as hard to be mature as he does to be a clown, he may give David Bailey some competition as one of the most respected racers of all time.

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a...

Track markers were run over all the time when RC and RV raced.  Reed said the same thing when Deegan got penalized for running over a marker at the E/W shootout.  Reed said that everyone would have been disqualified outdoors if they are penalized for running them over.  Deegan had the fastest lap in 3 of the 4 sectors in moto 1 so he was flying whether people want to admit it or not. 

 

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The way guys used to run over track markers riding the edge of the track and deegan completely avoiding an off camber section and using the edge of the track as a berm to make up 5 bike lengths are not the same. Its not even so much about the track markers as it is avoiding a part of the track to make up a bunch of time. Nobody would have cared if it wasnt such a blatant unfair advantage no one else had. 

(How do ppl still not understand this a week later) 

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Remember during the SMX race when he was using his jump line to cut the track and then almost decapitated the rider in front of him? Yeah that’s ok, he was just being creative…

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Remember during the SMX race when he was using his jump line to cut the track and then almost decapitated the rider in front of him...

Remember during the SMX race when he was using his jump line to cut the track and then almost decapitated the rider in front of him? Yeah that’s ok, he was just being creative…

And then literally stepped over the other rider's dead body so that he wouldn't lose more time. 

I remember that time Eli got caught up in a first lap crash with a bunch of riders and stopped to lift a bike off a privateer that was trapped under it. 

Some people are built different. 

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Remember during the SMX race when he was using his jump line to cut the track and then almost decapitated the rider in front of him...

Remember during the SMX race when he was using his jump line to cut the track and then almost decapitated the rider in front of him? Yeah that’s ok, he was just being creative…

And then literally stepped over the other rider's dead body so that he wouldn't lose more time. I remember that time Eli got caught up in a...

And then literally stepped over the other rider's dead body so that he wouldn't lose more time. 

I remember that time Eli got caught up in a first lap crash with a bunch of riders and stopped to lift a bike off a privateer that was trapped under it. 

Some people are built different. 

You mean this jump with Ryder D?  Because this video, unlike your made up tall tale, shows that not only did Haiden not cut the track, and didn't "literally" step over Ryder D, it was Ryder D who lost control and went into Deegan's path. You shouldn't make stuff up when there is video evidence showing you otherwise. 


 




99% of the time, riders don't stop and check to see if the other rider is OK.  For example, when Jett cross jumped in front of J Coop in 2022. Jett wasn't running to see if J Coop was good even though Jett caused the crash.

 

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