Deegan blatantly cutting the track

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yardsailor wrote:
Sounded like he did it a dozen times but they only had film of him doing it 6 times. Cant say he isnt doing everything possible to...

Sounded like he did it a dozen times but they only had film of him doing it 6 times. 
Cant say he isnt doing everything possible to win. 

Yeah thats like praising a big bore guy winning in the 250 class...

It's a scumbag move....

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Why is JT getting shit in here for Deegan’s inability to follow the rules?

umagumadog wrote:

Why didn’t JT ask Hunter about taking the same line? 

I don't know, maybe because Deegan was blatant about it and actually thought he could get away with it?

On another note. is there any responsibility of the AMA to maintain track markers? If they're getting smashed on the opening lap, why not put put some tough blocks out there to make people stay on the track?

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umagumadog wrote:

Why didn’t JT ask Hunter about taking the same line? 

Hunter did it once and stopped. 

Deegandashian did it on purpose 7 or more times....and been penalized for it numerous times in the past. 

See the difference. 

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It’s plain and simple. Forget about the middle of the corner. Were the markers there, were they missing, doesn’t matter. Take that completely out of the situation.There...

It’s plain and simple.

 Forget about the middle of the corner. Were the markers there, were they missing, doesn’t matter. Take that completely out of the situation.

There were markers standing at the exit of the corner. He went inside those markers. 

Even if he had stayed in the main line, then turned out early going inside those markers he’s still cutting the track. 

If he had used that inside line and then got back on track before the exit markers then this would be debatable. And the AMA probably would have docked him 1-2 spots because they know it’s debatable. But he didn’t, they gave him the large penalty because they had the evidence on live tv!  

At the beginning of the moto it showed him running the 1st 4-6 over, so the entry stakes were there the 1st time he cut the track.

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Because Hunter made one mistake then did not repeat the mistake. Prado did it twice, adn stopped. Deegan did it 7 times, and he was the rider...

Because Hunter made one mistake then did not repeat the mistake. Prado did it twice, adn stopped. 

Deegan did it 7 times, and he was the rider who initially knocked down the inside track markers so he could later claim they weren't visible. 

The things a small minority of posters here say to defend a clear and obvious wrong are absolutely deranged!

So are you’re saying it would be except able for Haiden to use that line once or twice also?

You really think Hunter made a mistake? He watched Haiden do it and then willingly and knowingly took a cheat line. But who’s surprised we all know how feral those Lawrence boys are and their pack mentality. 

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Because Hunter made one mistake then did not repeat the mistake. Prado did it twice, adn stopped. Deegan did it 7 times, and he was the rider...

Because Hunter made one mistake then did not repeat the mistake. Prado did it twice, adn stopped. 

Deegan did it 7 times, and he was the rider who initially knocked down the inside track markers so he could later claim they weren't visible. 

The things a small minority of posters here say to defend a clear and obvious wrong are absolutely deranged!

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So are you’re saying it would be except able for Haiden to use that line once or twice also?You really think Hunter made a mistake? He...

So are you’re saying it would be except able for Haiden to use that line once or twice also?

You really think Hunter made a mistake? He watched Haiden do it and then willingly and knowingly took a cheat line. But who’s surprised we all know how feral those Lawrence boys are and their pack mentality. 

Hunter got docked too, so no, it's not acceptable.

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I haven’t noticed a lot of deegs doing this but listening to thunder valley review on pulp , seems like deegs be cutting a section slickly at quite a few tracks , seems like Mitch complained about deegs alot on tht & JT mentioned deegs was doing this last yr at Ironman & now here we are at thunder valley, ima start paying more attention to this cause if deegs is doing this more times than not , he def gotta cut tht shit out cause whts the purpose 

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umagumadog wrote:

Why didn’t JT ask Hunter about taking the same line? 

Is it not possible that he didn’t see the one time Hunter did it? Besides, if you think this would’ve flew under the radar had JT not said anything you’re incredibly dumb.

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6/15/2026 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 6/15/2026 12:56pm

I love how the press is acting like deegan really stepped it up this weekend, he was running with them!

 

Was he though? He looked like he was completely riding over his head, making mistakes everywhere, cutting the track, then 2 crashes. I can kind of hang with some A riders for a lap or 2, but I'm absolutely terrified when doing it. Just because I can hang for a lap or 2 doesn't mean I'm that fast. It just means I'm dumb enough to ride above my ability level (mid pack B ) sometimes. I'm definitely out of control when doing it, and I'm well aware of that.

 

How can people in the press not see the same thing with him?

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Deegan as a child:
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6/15/2026 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 6/15/2026 6:07pm
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I love how the press is acting like deegan really stepped it up this weekend, he was running with them! Was he though? He looked like he...

I love how the press is acting like deegan really stepped it up this weekend, he was running with them!

 

Was he though? He looked like he was completely riding over his head, making mistakes everywhere, cutting the track, then 2 crashes. I can kind of hang with some A riders for a lap or 2, but I'm absolutely terrified when doing it. Just because I can hang for a lap or 2 doesn't mean I'm that fast. It just means I'm dumb enough to ride above my ability level (mid pack B ) sometimes. I'm definitely out of control when doing it, and I'm well aware of that.

 

How can people in the press not see the same thing with him?

I agree that at times he looked to be riding over his head. I suppose if you don’t at least try to hang , how do you know what it’s actually going to take to hang. The situation is definitely a rough one for Danger. There’s no doubt that  he’s really talented . The problem is , that he is going up against IMO the fastest, smoothest , most talented rider that there has ever been, with a couple years experience on him. If DangerBoy is going to hang with Jett he’s going to have to smooth out his style that helps him conserve energy during the motos. At first I thought he wasn’t in good enough shape, it’s not that . His style is wearing him out , which I believe is the reason he went down the 2 times you mentioned. Anyway just my 2 cents.

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Accelerating off‑track isn’t a penalty we go through this every year multiple times.

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Please see the second penalty below:

Please see the second penalty below:

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Oh no you got me, oh wait no you didn’t “get me.” You just exposed that you can’t read. I literally handed you the rest of...

Oh no you got me, oh wait no you didn’t “get me.” You just exposed that you can’t read. I literally handed you the rest of the rule language later in the thread spelling out exactly how a rider can accelerate off‑track without being penalized. If you had even a basic ability to process information, you’d understand why he got dinged. I actually thought you were halfway there when with the “attempt to gain an advantage” line, but I guess that was the ceiling for you, my mistake.

In my first comment I said what’s his name wasn’t penalised for the off track excursion, but he was, and I WAS WRONG. Those three little words aren’t too hard to say, you should try it.

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stewie94 wrote:
I haven’t noticed a lot of deegs doing this but listening to thunder valley review on pulp , seems like deegs be cutting a section slickly...

I haven’t noticed a lot of deegs doing this but listening to thunder valley review on pulp , seems like deegs be cutting a section slickly at quite a few tracks , seems like Mitch complained about deegs alot on tht & JT mentioned deegs was doing this last yr at Ironman & now here we are at thunder valley, ima start paying more attention to this cause if deegs is doing this more times than not , he def gotta cut tht shit out cause whts the purpose 

Yeah JT went pretty in depth on it in the Pulp review. Said his DM's are getting blown up like he narced out Haiden to the AMA lol. As if the AMA wasn't watching the race in real time assessing the situation. Jeremy said he mowed the markers down himself and they think he took the line a dozen times. Also went into pretty good detail about how much of a difference the line made, 1-2 seconds. 

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6/15/2026 3:59pm Edited Date/Time 6/15/2026 4:00pm

The worst part of Deegan cutting the track probably 10+ times was that he lied about it on national TV. Don't be a liar, Haiden. 

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kpiper wrote:

The worst part of Deegan cutting the track probably 10+ times was that he lied about it on national TV. Don't be a liar, Haiden. 

Yes, don’t add lying: cheating is bad enough.

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kpiper wrote:

The worst part of Deegan cutting the track probably 10+ times was that he lied about it on national TV. Don't be a liar, Haiden. 

It was the way he teenage cool guy'd like 'I knew I was cheating and you know I was cheating but I'm so smart I won't get in trouble.. It's cool I do it all the time with mum and dad' 

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Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands of dollars of video equipment focused on you... kind of incredible lol. All things considered that was a very tame penalty. 

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So how many more riders positions will be docked for track cutting this year?

Or does the AMA’s rectal  glaucoma kick in and there ass suddenly just don’t see it anymore? 

Get your cameras out every infraction must be docked a position the rest of the season. 

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He does it so often they should DQ him next time. Thats how it works in other sports. 

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I think I found the place where all the people more delusional, insecure, and insufferable than deegan hang out... Jesus this thread is a dumpster fire of stupid.

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Some people in here definitely purchased a trump phone.

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flow wrote:
Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands...

Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands of dollars of video equipment focused on you... kind of incredible lol. All things considered that was a very tame penalty. 

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.  

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flow wrote:
Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands...

Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands of dollars of video equipment focused on you... kind of incredible lol. All things considered that was a very tame penalty. 

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.   

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.  

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they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. 

JT$ had a pretty good memory of all the tracks he's done the same thing at in the past. not an isolated thing. 

 

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flow wrote:
Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands...

Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands of dollars of video equipment focused on you... kind of incredible lol. All things considered that was a very tame penalty. 

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.   

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.  

aufoue.jpg?VersionId=UOMG
 

Tyler D wrote:
they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. JT$ had a pretty good memory of...

they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. 

JT$ had a pretty good memory of all the tracks he's done the same thing at in the past. not an isolated thing. 

 

Translation: We don't have any evidence he did it more, but we don't like Deegan so we will just say it's safe to assume he did and make it up.  It's now 10+ times he did it and don't disagree with us.

 

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flow wrote:
Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands...

Cheated 10+ times and tried to straight up lie about it. The audacity it takes to try to gaslight an NBC sports broadcasting team with thousands of dollars of video equipment focused on you... kind of incredible lol. All things considered that was a very tame penalty. 

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.   

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.  

aufoue.jpg?VersionId=UOMG
 

Damn dropping that old meme format. Vintage styling. Very cool very cool. 

And I actually should wait to validate that but I don't think 7 times is great look either lol

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Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.   

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.  

aufoue.jpg?VersionId=UOMG
 

Tyler D wrote:
they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. JT$ had a pretty good memory of...

they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. 

JT$ had a pretty good memory of all the tracks he's done the same thing at in the past. not an isolated thing. 

 

Translation: We don't have any evidence he did it more, but we don't like Deegan so we will just say it's safe to assume he did...

Translation: We don't have any evidence he did it more, but we don't like Deegan so we will just say it's safe to assume he did and make it up.  It's now 10+ times he did it and don't disagree with us.

 

Well let’s see it reasonably. If a person does something around 15-16 times (that’s the laps), and you se a video of seven of those laps. In that video, 7 out of 7 times the person does something. Is it safe to assume that he did that thing most if not all the time? 

Because the data you have just said he did it all the time. Is it safe to assume that you could at least say 10+ times with some confidence, even giving the person the benefit och the doubt of not saying ”all the time/15 times” and just saying 10+?


I’m just trying to see it from that perspective. It’s not that harsh to say he did it 10+ times because that’s more than likely, to the verge of getting proven.


Anyway, just my cents Smile

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Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.   

Now it's 10+ times?  Before it was 7.  It just keeps growing and growing and growing.  

aufoue.jpg?VersionId=UOMG
 

Tyler D wrote:
they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. JT$ had a pretty good memory of...

they had video of 7, so they donged him for 7.it's reasonably safe to assume it occurred more than that. 

JT$ had a pretty good memory of all the tracks he's done the same thing at in the past. not an isolated thing. 

 

Translation: We don't have any evidence he did it more, but we don't like Deegan so we will just say it's safe to assume he did...

Translation: We don't have any evidence he did it more, but we don't like Deegan so we will just say it's safe to assume he did and make it up.  It's now 10+ times he did it and don't disagree with us.

 

does your boy do anything half-ass? why would he only do it a few times? why NOT go all out man? you wouldn't be glazing him if he half-assed anything. 

lol imagine trying to minimize this deal. either admit its a problem or fall on your sword and defend what he did. one or the other. 

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