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He’s got a place in Scottsdale by me. Don’t think this place is his vibe at all but happy wife happy life. He has some connection to the sx track in az cycle park. Not sure if he paid for it or what.
That definitely seems like the right move for the first 3-4 months of the season. Does he move the family back to Cortez when it warms up or when the Nationals start? Or do they stay in Scottsdale? I think his oldest kids are probably just about school aged, aren’t they?
I drove through Cortez several times over the last couple of years and thought that it was a beautiful area, but also wondered about how difficult it would be to have as a home base with weekly travel like these guys have.
I’ve known more than one guy that had a jet and were talked into putting it on a charter certificate to cut their costs.
You are actually relinquishing control over maintenance and management to someone else, who does not have your best interest at heart.
Every one regretted it. One had a Citation Encore on a certificate out west. I ended up airlining out and bringing it back to MO.
They caused about 100k more in damages than what he made.
If you can’t afford a jet without putting it on a charter, you can’t afford a jet.
The Honda Jet is pretty awesome, actually. I’m fortunate to be able to travel in one somewhat frequently.
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I may eventually. I know of several pilots that have their own plane and there is a flight club that several airline pilots run that I may try. And you hit the nail on the head about airline pilots retiring and going to corporate or just GA flying. That’s part of why I wouldn’t feel comfortable.
if I made the money these Top 10 guys make, I wouldn't buy a plane, I would buy a share at one of the fractional like Netjets or but jet cards form one of these fractional. It's the most hassle-free, cost efficient solution, don't have to worry about the operating cost of the plane, the pilots (we are super mega Type A expensive drama queens!), insurance, maintenance, hangaring, pilot training and recurrent training, etc. Also, going cheap and try to save cost on an older plane with a cheaper single-pilot ops, etc, never pays in the end, often bites harder.
With fractional, you can down grade to save, upgrade if you need something big or want to go across to Europe, unlimited ressources, you call "your" plane and it shoes up, if it breaks (jets/planes often have snags), the fractional has a replacement for you within an hour.
The only reason to own a business jet is when you tax attorney tells you you need to. These Top 10 riders could all easily get together to buy a $170K-$250K jetcard for the season.
Now, owning a Hondajet, a Vision Jet, an Epic 1000, a TBM 9XX, those are pilot planes, those are for fun, when you want to fly your own small plane. Those are awesome machines, but I would strongly recommend anyone flying a small jet or turbine-plane to always fly 2-crew. When the shit hits the fan, when the wx becomes dangerous, a lone pilot gets quickly overwhelmed, and more single-pilot planes have tragic accidents than 2-crew planes, it's easier when there are 2 professionally trained pilots handling an emergency than 1.
I'll get you there fast, at the cost of you ever having a functional neck and back again...
Chad Reed had one, or chartered it. I spoke at length with his pilot at the 2005 Red Bud MX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpfQUBO0Ss
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I worked in the Netjet bay at the service center in Wichita for a bit. Those planes get fantastic maintenance BUT...rich guys buy into a fractional so the wife can haul the kids around while he uses his BBJ or Gulstream for hisself.
They turn them into flying dumpsters. A soccer mom van with wings. I'm just knowin'.
There’s a lot of real pilots on here biting their tongue. They know better than to post.
Yes, RC's was a twin prop. If he was flying to the west coast he flew commercial. They used that plane for mostly all east coast events. I think Lawrence's are doing the same, and I dont think its a jet.
Eli's brother flies C130's (I think) for the military, so aviation runs in that family.
Pretty wild it has a parachute and a big red safety button to tell the plane to land itself.
I love flying private...but it's that crashing thing at the end zim not too sure of ..🙃
Concur, TOGA
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I dont think these guys have the net worth to own a jet. Cw2 in a 50% share may chart out. Typically jet salesman look for a net worth of 50 million to own a full sized jet. But if you have a few $$ you can make a go at it, its just a big draw on the bank account.
No one in professional motocross makes the kind of money needed to actually OWN a jet. Maybe a super rich business owner, but no pro moto athletes have ever made that kind of money.
$100m net worth is generally where you can justify owning a jet.
Prop planes, leases, co-shares… sure
They would need to buy a 777
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Define jet. I don’t think you need $100M NW to swing a legacy Citation.
He use to race planes also
Steve Wise.... ( Beechcraft Bonnaza) ?
Cirrus jets are cool and probably a good option for moto guys if they have a pilot but the past couple weeks it looks like Coop has been flying commercial so wonder what’s up with that.
When he bought it he said he would not be using it for West coast rounds.
Cooper Webb has an ownership interest in a Cirrus Vision Jet. pretty cool -
Cooper's VisionJet G2+ retails for 3.4-3.9m and VJs can be had for 1.5m - 3.5m used all day. That's easily affordable for a long time factory 450 rider with 3 SX championships. Not like he walks up and buys it cash. You can get 20-year financing on planes (I own two, outright) and 100% it's registered to his business and a write off. Plus he's in a partnership for it (half price baby!) and planes maintain their resale value quite a bit.
Tax rules were redone under the DTv1.0 tax changes and really changed the plane buying / tax write off rules to make them more favorable to business owners.
Guy at my home airport has a VisionJet, and I've gone up in it with him and flown it for a bit, putting it thru some basic maneuvers. Neat personal jet.
Oh, Ron Lawson and Doug Dubach share a Cirrus SR20 (Doug's son Carter is a professional pilot) and Kit Palmer of Cycle News flies also. He has a Citabria.
Based on the video, and the fact CW2 isn't in the airman registry, it still appears he's not a pilot, and hires the Rob guy in the video (who knew all the basic pilot stuff about the VJ) to actually fly it.
VJ requires a type rating and isn't something a casual pilot flies.
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