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6/1/2026 9:28am

Started 4-5 positions behind Jett each moto and finished 1 behind him in both. Will he beat Jett? No way. But the kid can ride. 

MXMattii wrote:
Jett is riding at 70% of his possibilities, he need to re-learn how to place his feet and use his feet because his ankle is very...

Jett is riding at 70% of his possibilities, he need to re-learn how to place his feet and use his feet because his ankle is very limited in rotation. It even sounded like the limitations from a fused ankle. That is a question @ML512 or @LewisPhillips should ask Jett: Did they fused your ankle or is it the hardware that makes some movements hard... 

mx216 wrote:
70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be...

70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be like 20 seconds a lap faster. Absolutely foolish and I cringe when I hear these "estimates" of pace and ability. Massively discrediting to the other riders at the same time too. 

JT$ also says that he’s 5’9”……….so I don’t believe anything he’s got to say! 🤣🤣🤣

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Wo Phat wrote:

what's their strategy?.....finish 25 seconds off pace? hahaha

SRF2DRT wrote:
Considering Haiden started as far back as he did both Motos which required him to come through the pack and restrict his line choices, 25 seconds...

Considering Haiden started as far back as he did both Motos which required him to come through the pack and restrict his line choices, 25 seconds back is really not all that bad. If he manages to pull off a good start, he should be able to hang right in there.  Pala just showed us that Haiden has podium level speed and we shouldn’t be all too surprised if he racks up a few of them this season. 
 

Let’s be honest, take away the stupid T-shirt he wore, lame ass jewelry, and considering the class of guys he’s now racing against, Haiden did phenomenal for his first ever 450 Motocross race.

but.......you can't take away the stupid t-shirt, the fake diamonds, and the blown start (he actually got off the line well). he did ok, but certainly didn't live up to his own hype or the hype from his fanboyz

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Wo Phat wrote:
but.......you can't take away the stupid t-shirt, the fake diamonds, and the blown start (he actually got off the line well). he did ok, but certainly...

but.......you can't take away the stupid t-shirt, the fake diamonds, and the blown start (he actually got off the line well). he did ok, but certainly didn't live up to his own hype or the hype from his fanboyz

Yeah I think that's my issue. He was quoted after the race and said "all hype aside, that was a good 1st round." Lol no, you don't get to say that after running your mouth and  driving the hype like he was coming in to take over. So any "haters" have every right to call him out on that, after getting beat. It's just part of the game when you want to be the McGregor, Deion Sanders type of athlete. When you lose after all the "look at me" stuff, leading up to it, you will be criticized. 

Take that side of it away though, he rode really well. Under normal circumstances,  that's a good ride To build on. But he chose the path that he's on, so if he doesn't beat Jett and dominate the class, he's in for some ppl clowning him on it.

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250 cross wrote:

5-4 is a good start. I seem to remember RC crashing his brains out often when entering the big boys class. His career turned out okay.

That is not the issue. The issue is/was that all the 38 fanboys said he will wax the field, Jett included. 

Jett is an alien on a dirt bike. If he is fit no one can touch him. 

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6/1/2026 11:11am

If the theatrics and marketing hype derail your whole understanding of the actually racing and sucks you in, that’s on you. A reasonable motocross fan sees a likely solid result for a rookie. The only ones rewriting it are the haters and the extremists on both sides, ironically both pretty much doing the exact thing they claim to “hate.” And at this point, both sides are annoying as fuck. Across the motocross internet not just this site it’s mostly Deegan talk, a little Jett noise, and barley any acknowledgment of the guy who actually obliterated the field. . .

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6/1/2026 11:27am Edited Date/Time 6/1/2026 11:27am

I'm old school, and I crap talk Deegan a lot...but coming from 20th at the start to 5th on a track like Pala in his first 450 race against the pack of bad dudes like that is pretty impressive in my opinion. I don't like his mouth, but to be fair...this sport needs a "villan" to make things a little more spicy. 

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AH387 wrote:
Yeah I think that's my issue. He was quoted after the race and said "all hype aside, that was a good 1st round." Lol no, you...

Yeah I think that's my issue. He was quoted after the race and said "all hype aside, that was a good 1st round." Lol no, you don't get to say that after running your mouth and  driving the hype like he was coming in to take over. So any "haters" have every right to call him out on that, after getting beat. It's just part of the game when you want to be the McGregor, Deion Sanders type of athlete. When you lose after all the "look at me" stuff, leading up to it, you will be criticized. 

Take that side of it away though, he rode really well. Under normal circumstances,  that's a good ride To build on. But he chose the path that he's on, so if he doesn't beat Jett and dominate the class, he's in for some ppl clowning him on it.

Spot on.  No doubt they have made a ton of money off of his shtick….but being disrespectful and obnoxiously arrogant only works if you dominate….and he did mostly dominate a weak 250 field.  I do feel the mind games had him living rent free in some 250 riders heads.  Zero chance of that working with Jett and Hunter, or really any top 450 riders.  Honda probably pins that dumb ass RIP picture in the rig and laughs at it walking by.  Whether or not haiden even wins races…and I don’t know if he ever wins a championship in the 450s,….. he will never dominate 450s.  Never.  Jett, Hunter, and Prado are too young, and the generation just behind Haiden is too talented. Also, Lucas is coming and I put him ahead of Haiden on a 450.  We will get a glimpse of that this summer.  So, after you talk shit on everybody and don’t dominate…eventually people just quit paying attention to the BS.

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I will say one thing for sure, having Douche-Boy on the track made me a Jett fan finally. 

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Wo Phat wrote:

what's their strategy?.....finish 25 seconds off pace? hahaha

SRF2DRT wrote:
Considering Haiden started as far back as he did both Motos which required him to come through the pack and restrict his line choices, 25 seconds...

Considering Haiden started as far back as he did both Motos which required him to come through the pack and restrict his line choices, 25 seconds back is really not all that bad. If he manages to pull off a good start, he should be able to hang right in there.  Pala just showed us that Haiden has podium level speed and we shouldn’t be all too surprised if he racks up a few of them this season. 
 

Let’s be honest, take away the stupid T-shirt he wore, lame ass jewelry, and considering the class of guys he’s now racing against, Haiden did phenomenal for his first ever 450 Motocross race.

Okay Brian...

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6/1/2026 12:32pm Edited Date/Time 6/1/2026 12:36pm
The RIP t-shirt is going down in moto history like Alessi with his 'believe the hype'.Old botox face really fucked this one up...

The RIP t-shirt is going down in moto history like Alessi with his 'believe the hype'.

Old botox face really fucked this one up...

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Can you stop posting these AI pics of Brian with lip filler everywhere, they weren’t ever funny..

Did he bang ur girl or something? Or ur mom?

Come on Head, you like them...

You can use them as your screensaver on your phone...like your other Brian pics..

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Wo Phat wrote:

what's their strategy?.....finish 25 seconds off pace? hahaha

SRF2DRT wrote:
Considering Haiden started as far back as he did both Motos which required him to come through the pack and restrict his line choices, 25 seconds...

Considering Haiden started as far back as he did both Motos which required him to come through the pack and restrict his line choices, 25 seconds back is really not all that bad. If he manages to pull off a good start, he should be able to hang right in there.  Pala just showed us that Haiden has podium level speed and we shouldn’t be all too surprised if he racks up a few of them this season. 
 

Let’s be honest, take away the stupid T-shirt he wore, lame ass jewelry, and considering the class of guys he’s now racing against, Haiden did phenomenal for his first ever 450 Motocross race.

Wo Phat wrote:
but.......you can't take away the stupid t-shirt, the fake diamonds, and the blown start (he actually got off the line well). he did ok, but certainly...

but.......you can't take away the stupid t-shirt, the fake diamonds, and the blown start (he actually got off the line well). he did ok, but certainly didn't live up to his own hype or the hype from his fanboyz

Believe the Hype 2.0

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deadlo wrote:
Waved goodbye? Did we watch the same race? Deegan was on his ass almost the entire moto both motos. 25th and 17th and running up the...

Waved goodbye? Did we watch the same race? Deegan was on his ass almost the entire moto both motos. 25th and 17th and running up the pack finishing literally right behind him both motos. Who else has been able to do that? 

I just don’t understand how you can be into moto enough to be on a forum, but also truly believe that was a bad first 450 race. It’s like you guys are so blinded by being haters or you just don’t know motocross at all. 

Wo Phat wrote:
deegs wasn't on his ass.....after he was passed by Jett he was not a factor, nor was he close in the second moto. Jett hasn't raced...

deegs wasn't on his ass.....after he was passed by Jett he was not a factor, nor was he close in the second moto. Jett hasn't raced the whole year and didn't break a sweat passing Deegs. give me a break with that bs about being on his ass. what were you watching fanboy. btw you notice that Hunter and Prado smoked your boy by 25 seconds?

deadlo wrote:
Dude what???? He was + time to 1.5-4 seconds behind Jett the entire moto 1 running through the pack. He was literally 2-3 seconds behind Jett...

Dude what???? He was + time to 1.5-4 seconds behind Jett the entire moto 1 running through the pack. He was literally 2-3 seconds behind Jett for almost the entirety of moto 1 and going through traffic. Give it up dude. He rode good. 

By your dumb logic Jett also finished 20 seconds behind hunter moto 1. Do you also think Jett is unable to run up front? 

Sorry, this is incorrect.  He was presenting himself as FMOTP and would gap the field easily.  This didn’t happen so now you’re moving the goalposts.
Nice try.  Do better.

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Wo Phat wrote:
deegs wasn't on his ass.....after he was passed by Jett he was not a factor, nor was he close in the second moto. Jett hasn't raced...

deegs wasn't on his ass.....after he was passed by Jett he was not a factor, nor was he close in the second moto. Jett hasn't raced the whole year and didn't break a sweat passing Deegs. give me a break with that bs about being on his ass. what were you watching fanboy. btw you notice that Hunter and Prado smoked your boy by 25 seconds?

deadlo wrote:
Dude what???? He was + time to 1.5-4 seconds behind Jett the entire moto 1 running through the pack. He was literally 2-3 seconds behind Jett...

Dude what???? He was + time to 1.5-4 seconds behind Jett the entire moto 1 running through the pack. He was literally 2-3 seconds behind Jett for almost the entirety of moto 1 and going through traffic. Give it up dude. He rode good. 

By your dumb logic Jett also finished 20 seconds behind hunter moto 1. Do you also think Jett is unable to run up front? 

Sorry, this is incorrect.  He was presenting himself as FMOTP and would gap the field easily.  This didn’t happen so now you’re moving the goalposts.Nice try...

Sorry, this is incorrect.  He was presenting himself as FMOTP and would gap the field easily.  This didn’t happen so now you’re moving the goalposts.
Nice try.  Do better.

I asked another user in this thread, and they didn’t answer. So I’ll ask you:  when did Haiden say he was the fastest man on planet and would gap the 450 field easily?  

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When the haters get more fanatical than the actual fans it gives me Westboro Baptist vibes for some reason.  

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Sorry, this is incorrect.  He was presenting himself as FMOTP and would gap the field easily.  This didn’t happen so now you’re moving the goalposts.Nice try...

Sorry, this is incorrect.  He was presenting himself as FMOTP and would gap the field easily.  This didn’t happen so now you’re moving the goalposts.
Nice try.  Do better.

He absolutely wasn’t “presenting himself as FMOTP” or acting like he’d gap the field. Where are these quotes? There isn't any. All there is; is a dumb/cringe shirt that was click/rage/engagement social media bait. Outside of that there is just people and the media rewriting his confidence and motivation into something it never was. He did say he came to “make a statement,” but not that he would beat Jett specifically.  He literally says he’s “got a lot of work to do” before he can run with the 450 guys. Literally watch the Pala pre-race press conference it's the same tone...The reality is a huge difference to whatever narrative you made up in your head or fell for that is social media click bait.

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MXMattii wrote:
Jett is riding at 70% of his possibilities, he need to re-learn how to place his feet and use his feet because his ankle is very...

Jett is riding at 70% of his possibilities, he need to re-learn how to place his feet and use his feet because his ankle is very limited in rotation. It even sounded like the limitations from a fused ankle. That is a question @ML512 or @LewisPhillips should ask Jett: Did they fused your ankle or is it the hardware that makes some movements hard... 

mx216 wrote:
70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be...

70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be like 20 seconds a lap faster. Absolutely foolish and I cringe when I hear these "estimates" of pace and ability. Massively discrediting to the other riders at the same time too. 

kxking wrote:

Its 80% of his health/fitness/healing, not 80% of his full speed.

How is this metric calculated? 

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70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be...

70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be like 20 seconds a lap faster. Absolutely foolish and I cringe when I hear these "estimates" of pace and ability. Massively discrediting to the other riders at the same time too. 

kxking wrote:

Its 80% of his health/fitness/healing, not 80% of his full speed.

mx216 wrote:

How is this metric calculated? 

Delusion

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mx216 wrote:
70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be...

70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be like 20 seconds a lap faster. Absolutely foolish and I cringe when I hear these "estimates" of pace and ability. Massively discrediting to the other riders at the same time too. 

kxking wrote:

Its 80% of his health/fitness/healing, not 80% of his full speed.

mx216 wrote:

How is this metric calculated? 

Must be that “big brain math”.

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I always wondered where the Dungey fans would go.  With Deegs, they have a home.

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MXMattii wrote:
Jett is riding at 70% of his possibilities, he need to re-learn how to place his feet and use his feet because his ankle is very...

Jett is riding at 70% of his possibilities, he need to re-learn how to place his feet and use his feet because his ankle is very limited in rotation. It even sounded like the limitations from a fused ankle. That is a question @ML512 or @LewisPhillips should ask Jett: Did they fused your ankle or is it the hardware that makes some movements hard... 

mx216 wrote:
70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be...

70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be like 20 seconds a lap faster. Absolutely foolish and I cringe when I hear these "estimates" of pace and ability. Massively discrediting to the other riders at the same time too. 

MoogenKen wrote:

JT$ also says that he’s 5’9”……….so I don’t believe anything he’s got to say! 🤣🤣🤣

Years ago When JT$ raced for Butler Bros I was able to race his bike one night . The bike was extremely fast but it was such a weird set up . Had 2 sets of foot pegs welded on top of each other and a cut down subframe  . Not a chance he is 5'9.     maybe 5'6 on his best day 

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6/1/2026 2:00pm
It's bad when you and your father have been marketing you as a challenger to Jett Lawrence.The heat Donger is getting for his average performance is...

It's bad when you and your father have been marketing you as a challenger to Jett Lawrence.

The heat Donger is getting for his average performance is entirely deserved...

deadlo wrote:
What’s worse, a dad hyping up his son, or a guy spending time editing multiple photos of a guys lips to post on an Internet forum...

What’s worse, a dad hyping up his son, or a guy spending time editing multiple photos of a guys lips to post on an Internet forum.  

Bryan seems to be doing pretty stellar as a father of some very successful kids. He’s there everyday for them and could definitely be doing much worse things with all his money and fame 

Successful Kids? Hayden yes. Hailey is a flop and Hudson is living in nah nah land. What makes Hudson successful?

 

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mx216 wrote:
70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be...

70 percent? Same with JT I believe on the broadcast saying hes at 80% or whatever. That means if he rides at 100% he will be like 20 seconds a lap faster. Absolutely foolish and I cringe when I hear these "estimates" of pace and ability. Massively discrediting to the other riders at the same time too. 

MoogenKen wrote:

JT$ also says that he’s 5’9”……….so I don’t believe anything he’s got to say! 🤣🤣🤣

OR Racer46 wrote:
Years ago When JT$ raced for Butler Bros I was able to race his bike one night . The bike was extremely fast but it was...

Years ago When JT$ raced for Butler Bros I was able to race his bike one night . The bike was extremely fast but it was such a weird set up . Had 2 sets of foot pegs welded on top of each other and a cut down subframe  . Not a chance he is 5'9.     maybe 5'6 on his best day 

He’s 5’3-4” on a good day. Saw somewhere online it says 5’9”, couldn’t help but making a joke. 

Know that he’s a really cool dude! 

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6/1/2026 2:08pm
The RIP t-shirt is going down in moto history like Alessi with his 'believe the hype'.Old botox face really fucked this one up...

The RIP t-shirt is going down in moto history like Alessi with his 'believe the hype'.

Old botox face really fucked this one up...

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Can you stop posting these AI pics of Brian with lip filler everywhere, they weren’t ever funny..

Did he bang ur girl or something? Or ur mom?

Come on Head, you like them...You can use them as your screensaver on your phone...like your other Brian pics..

Come on Head, you like them...

You can use them as your screensaver on your phone...like your other Brian pics..

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It's bad when you and your father have been marketing you as a challenger to Jett Lawrence.The heat Donger is getting for his average performance is...

It's bad when you and your father have been marketing you as a challenger to Jett Lawrence.

The heat Donger is getting for his average performance is entirely deserved...

deadlo wrote:
What’s worse, a dad hyping up his son, or a guy spending time editing multiple photos of a guys lips to post on an Internet forum...

What’s worse, a dad hyping up his son, or a guy spending time editing multiple photos of a guys lips to post on an Internet forum.  

Bryan seems to be doing pretty stellar as a father of some very successful kids. He’s there everyday for them and could definitely be doing much worse things with all his money and fame 

Successful Kids? Hayden yes. Hailey is a flop and Hudson is living in nah nah land. What makes Hudson successful?

 

Hailey is a flop? Racing nascar, 1.7M followers, probably making absolute bank without being an internet ho. Deegan already a champion. Kids aren’t doing drugs, all seem to have a good head on their shoulders. Idk bro why are you trying to attack the family? Brian is an amazing dad and if you don’t see that you have issues. 

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He’s going for the, “I’ve been to prison” look. 

To me it’s Bieber meets footballer (Aussie Football Star).

He’s young and that’s the look they’re runnin’.

As to people saying what “percentage of normal” he is? He’s 95% all there. His ankle is annoying him and affects his thinking…his awareness…but, obviously…once he “gets loose”…he’s damn near all there.

Yesterday he rode conservatively and it was his 1st race post-ankle-reconstruction…including a coupl’a VERY difficult bones to heal. Period. With that said, for me…and with identical surgeries in my recent past…

Yesterday was one of the most impressive rides I’ve seen outta Jett. EVER. 

When he gets a good start? It’s gonna be Business As Usual

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To me it’s Bieber meets footballer (Aussie Football Star).He’s young and that’s the look they’re runnin’.As to people saying what “percentage of normal” he is? He’s...

To me it’s Bieber meets footballer (Aussie Football Star).

He’s young and that’s the look they’re runnin’.

As to people saying what “percentage of normal” he is? He’s 95% all there. His ankle is annoying him and affects his thinking…his awareness…but, obviously…once he “gets loose”…he’s damn near all there.

Yesterday he rode conservatively and it was his 1st race post-ankle-reconstruction…including a coupl’a VERY difficult bones to heal. Period. With that said, for me…and with identical surgeries in my recent past…

Yesterday was one of the most impressive rides I’ve seen outta Jett. EVER. 

When he gets a good start? It’s gonna be Business As Usual

I couldn’t really care less, how many tattoos he has, it was really a swipe at Wolf (Dazzy) on how his little family appears. 

The Lawrence brothers aren’t the clean-cut alter boys that’s being professed, that’s all. 

 

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gerg wrote:

Wonder what his T-shirt is going to have on it for round 2.

Bet my house it doesn’t say RIP Jett 

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The RIP t-shirt is going down in moto history like Alessi with his 'believe the hype'.Old botox face really fucked this one up...

The RIP t-shirt is going down in moto history like Alessi with his 'believe the hype'.

Old botox face really fucked this one up...

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You gotta stop wasting water with all these stupid AI pics, my man

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I always wondered where the Dungey fans would go.  With Deegs, they have a home.

Ok, that's one of the stupidest things I've read here.

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