Panic Button for Chase/Kawi?

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Chase could go the reed route and do his own thing. Ducati or triumph would love to have someone with his potential. Suzuki is an option perhaps. Maybe he...

Chase could go the reed route and do his own thing. 

Ducati or triumph would love to have someone with his potential. 

Suzuki is an option perhaps. 

Maybe he says fuck it and goes to mxgp. What would big Lew do then!?

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I don’t think starting his own team works, you need clear direction on settings and strong mental fortitude. Chase has neither unfortunatelyMXGP, fresh start away from...

I don’t think starting his own team works, you need clear direction on settings and strong mental fortitude. Chase has neither unfortunately


MXGP, fresh start away from Dad and out of the fishbowl might be just the ticket to reignite things

That’s only part of it.  You need to be able to sell yourself to sponsors, you need your own money that you are prepared to lose, you need strong relationships with top level support people who are prepared to dive in with you, you need to be able to separate the riding from the team ownership but still do both at a high level, you need to know exactly what you want from a bike so you can choose the right equipment for you and the team.

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soggy wrote:
Chase could go the reed route and do his own thing. Ducati or triumph would love to have someone with his potential. Suzuki is an option perhaps. Maybe he...

Chase could go the reed route and do his own thing. 

Ducati or triumph would love to have someone with his potential. 

Suzuki is an option perhaps. 

Maybe he says fuck it and goes to mxgp. What would big Lew do then!?

JDub067 wrote:
I don’t think starting his own team works, you need clear direction on settings and strong mental fortitude. Chase has neither unfortunatelyMXGP, fresh start away from...

I don’t think starting his own team works, you need clear direction on settings and strong mental fortitude. Chase has neither unfortunately


MXGP, fresh start away from Dad and out of the fishbowl might be just the ticket to reignite things

ando wrote:
That’s only part of it.  You need to be able to sell yourself to sponsors, you need your own money that you are prepared to lose...

That’s only part of it.  You need to be able to sell yourself to sponsors, you need your own money that you are prepared to lose, you need strong relationships with top level support people who are prepared to dive in with you, you need to be able to separate the riding from the team ownership but still do both at a high level, you need to know exactly what you want from a bike so you can choose the right equipment for you and the team.

100% correct, I couldn’t imagine Chase endearing himself to prospective sponsors after the last few years. It’s risky for anyone who takes him on next. Absolute certified badass on a motorcycle as long as he’s comfortable, the problem is, I think he’s lost sight of what gives him comfort 

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ain't gonna lie...CS could roll around easily in 5th-8th very safely with little risk of injury and could cash mega checks to fulfill this contract. Yeah...

ain't gonna lie...CS could roll around easily in 5th-8th very safely with little risk of injury and could cash mega checks to fulfill this contract. Yeah, I know people want the c-ships/legacy stuff but he's put himself in a helluva position. Not sure if he'd be too old at that point, but after fulfilling the contract, he joins XYZ team and wins races. Not an ideal solution, but when you consider pay/health/career...sticking w/ the crummy job for the great pay isn't always a terrible plan.

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He won’t be winning anything besides maybe a heat race in 3 years. 

that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win...

that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win championships? I understand that there's a lot more variables, but this situation is beyond odd and Chase has to start thinking beyond his nose.

I think that his best option. He’s not going back to Honda. Triumph likely doesn’t have close to the money, same with Ducati or Beta. Suzuki likely a no go long s Ken is there. Yamaha maybe, but I think highly unlikely. And if he does end up at Yamaha, willing to bet it’s similar to Prado deal, low/no salary and bonuses. Would still get gear money I am sure. But at this point in his career I am willing to bet he knows another championship is highly unlikely to happen. Smart money would be to learn how to shut up n ride the bike, finish 4-10 with the occasional podium or stars align and win. Cash that big check and sleep on a pile of money at night. 

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that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win...

that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win championships? I understand that there's a lot more variables, but this situation is beyond odd and Chase has to start thinking beyond his nose.

ando wrote:

I don’t think the elite guys want to just ride around knowing they can’t win, or aren’t at least competitive.

I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna win. 

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This only works if the team delivers on their promises and is actually open to changing things. From what we’ve seen Kawasaki does not seem willing...

This only works if the team delivers on their promises and is actually open to changing things. From what we’ve seen Kawasaki does not seem willing to do whatever the rider wants. They’re very willing to put in the work but it’s become clear that there are major issues at the top. Secondly, why would you use two more years at the end of your prime riding age on a team/bike that you don’t think you can win on? 

Fully agree with you on Kawasaki not being flexible, which is also not a well kept secret and something he should’ve considered when signing a three year deal. Tough, but I think that’s fair.

I’m of the belief that he should hold out, and leverage his recent championships for what they’re worth, against a team that hasn’t had much success in 5yrs. Sexton was the rider that broke the Carmichael Curse over at Honda… use that!

Should he get out of his current contract, I don’t blame him. However, the context in which he left his last two teams does not do him any favors in options or reputation. Again tough, because that bike seems to suck (for a factory bike), but I think fair.

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Matt414 wrote:
I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna...

I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna win. 

Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two time 450 champion.  It would be a massive ask to expect him to accept riding around in 5-10, even if he’s being paid well.  To these guys the money is just an outcome; within reason they’ll take a paycut to get back to winning.

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He didn’t leave Honda because of the bike. He has left every other team since then due to the bike, I say “every other” cuz he...

He didn’t leave Honda because of the bike. He has left every other team since then due to the bike, I say “every other” cuz he will 100% leave Kawi before the 3 years is up. His only hope is Star and that means he will have to suffer being an actual B guy. You give him the truth serum and Chase would be begging to get back on Honda, front tucking aside he was the best on that bike- also, any chance all the Prado haters give him his due now or are we still blaming him for being right and sticking to his guns (how dare he)

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Bullshit he complained about the handling of the Honda (how can we forget all the front end tucks he suffered on the Hon) and said it...

Bullshit he complained about the handling of the Honda (how can we forget all the front end tucks he suffered on the Hon) and said it was one of the reasons he moved on everyone assumes that he left because of the Lawrence’s but he never said that, only talking heads and conspiracy theorists have said that….

Nope, his dad was on pulp and said they wanted to leave and not be on the same equipment as Jett. 2024 ish

And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and they had to do a lot of work to fix it. 

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DonM wrote:
Bullshit he complained about the handling of the Honda (how can we forget all the front end tucks he suffered on the Hon) and said it...

Bullshit he complained about the handling of the Honda (how can we forget all the front end tucks he suffered on the Hon) and said it was one of the reasons he moved on everyone assumes that he left because of the Lawrence’s but he never said that, only talking heads and conspiracy theorists have said that….

Nope, his dad was on pulp and said they wanted to leave and not be on the same equipment as Jett. 2024 ish

KurtJ99 wrote:
And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and...

And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and they had to do a lot of work to fix it. 

Yep. That is accurate from what I recall of that interview. 

Chase doesn’t know how to set up a bike and went to a team that apparently knows just as little as he does. 

hindsight is 20/20 but I really didnt see it going this poorly. 

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Chase may have left Honda because of the brothers but a lot has changed since then. I doubt Deegan being there would be enough to prevent...

Chase may have left Honda because of the brothers but a lot has changed since then. I doubt Deegan being there would be enough to prevent chase from going there now with the way things have gone. Chase probably wouldn't train there and sounds like Deegan hardly ever rides with anyone anyway. Both have motor homes for race days. 

The free agent question is interesting. Brothers and Deegan for sure but other than that I don't think there's anyone else right now? Prado maybe if he is winning outdoors right away. The rest of the guys are either up there in age or don't have as high of a ceiling. I'm sure others have him way down the list on this question and that's the disrespect I'm talking about. Most of the criticisms of him are valid but we disagree on where that puts him in the hierarchy. 

I also don't believe the door is closed anywhere. Everyone says they're sorry and they learned things and you convince yourself it'll be different and you remember the titles you won together and give it another go if it makes sense for both of you. 

Well said

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4/23/2026 11:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/23/2026 11:12pm
ain't gonna lie...CS could roll around easily in 5th-8th very safely with little risk of injury and could cash mega checks to fulfill this contract. Yeah...

ain't gonna lie...CS could roll around easily in 5th-8th very safely with little risk of injury and could cash mega checks to fulfill this contract. Yeah, I know people want the c-ships/legacy stuff but he's put himself in a helluva position. Not sure if he'd be too old at that point, but after fulfilling the contract, he joins XYZ team and wins races. Not an ideal solution, but when you consider pay/health/career...sticking w/ the crummy job for the great pay isn't always a terrible plan.

Matt414 wrote:

He won’t be winning anything besides maybe a heat race in 3 years. 

that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win...

that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win championships? I understand that there's a lot more variables, but this situation is beyond odd and Chase has to start thinking beyond his nose.

Thats a tough one. Myself personally I'd rather win and the 7 figure check add up/come  with it. Oh well. Atleast it isn't MMA or boxing where you lose and get your ass kicked.

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The guy won his third race on the bike against one of the most stacked fields ever....

People seem to forget the shit show he was outdoors last year.  He has been broken since he blew that sx title. 

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Isn’t Chase left handed? What if the Kawi is set up for righties?

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DonM wrote:
Bullshit he complained about the handling of the Honda (how can we forget all the front end tucks he suffered on the Hon) and said it...

Bullshit he complained about the handling of the Honda (how can we forget all the front end tucks he suffered on the Hon) and said it was one of the reasons he moved on everyone assumes that he left because of the Lawrence’s but he never said that, only talking heads and conspiracy theorists have said that….

Nope, his dad was on pulp and said they wanted to leave and not be on the same equipment as Jett. 2024 ish

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And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and...

And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and they had to do a lot of work to fix it. 

I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to Roczen's dad and Johny O.

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People referencing the dazzy comment about the bike setup never mention the other guy that rode that generation of the CRF for a couple of years with chase. 

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Nope, his dad was on pulp and said they wanted to leave and not be on the same equipment as Jett. 2024 ish

KurtJ99 wrote:
And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and...

And I believe Dazzy crapped all over the bike setup Jett had to start from, basically saying Sexton steered the team in the wrong direction and they had to do a lot of work to fix it. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to...

I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to Roczen's dad and Johny O.

I didn’t hear Dazzy take credit for fixing Jett’s setup. I think like John Tomac, Dad can say things their son would prefer not to. 

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Matt414 wrote:
I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna...

I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna win. 

ando wrote:
Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two...

Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two time 450 champion.  It would be a massive ask to expect him to accept riding around in 5-10, even if he’s being paid well.  To these guys the money is just an outcome; within reason they’ll take a paycut to get back to winning.

Cool story. Now back here in reality, all those guys know from lap 1 or 2 of practice roughly where they’ll be in the main. Baring some outside factors, they know each weekend. Chase isn’t nor has he ever really been fighting for a big bike championship without an asterisk. Flame away, plenty of you’ll can’t handle the truth. Fan boy circle jerk gets in the way of reality. 

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Matt414 wrote:
I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna...

I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna win. 

ando wrote:
Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two...

Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two time 450 champion.  It would be a massive ask to expect him to accept riding around in 5-10, even if he’s being paid well.  To these guys the money is just an outcome; within reason they’ll take a paycut to get back to winning.

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Cool story. Now back here in reality, all those guys know from lap 1 or 2 of practice roughly where they’ll be in the main. Baring...

Cool story. Now back here in reality, all those guys know from lap 1 or 2 of practice roughly where they’ll be in the main. Baring some outside factors, they know each weekend. Chase isn’t nor has he ever really been fighting for a big bike championship without an asterisk. Flame away, plenty of you’ll can’t handle the truth. Fan boy circle jerk gets in the way of reality. 

Damn we might as well not race then. 

I’m guessing you had roczen being in the fight for this championship in November right?

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ando wrote:
Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two...

Chase isn’t “most of the guys on the gate”.  He’s one of a few who can push or even occasionally beat Jett, and he’s a two time 450 champion.  It would be a massive ask to expect him to accept riding around in 5-10, even if he’s being paid well.  To these guys the money is just an outcome; within reason they’ll take a paycut to get back to winning.

Matt414 wrote:
Cool story. Now back here in reality, all those guys know from lap 1 or 2 of practice roughly where they’ll be in the main. Baring...

Cool story. Now back here in reality, all those guys know from lap 1 or 2 of practice roughly where they’ll be in the main. Baring some outside factors, they know each weekend. Chase isn’t nor has he ever really been fighting for a big bike championship without an asterisk. Flame away, plenty of you’ll can’t handle the truth. Fan boy circle jerk gets in the way of reality. 

soggy wrote:

Damn we might as well not race then. 

I’m guessing you had roczen being in the fight for this championship in November right?

Back in November I had Jett for the title...

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Spoonguy wrote:
I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to...

I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to Roczen's dad and Johny O.

You’ll find that the Lawrence family also attribute a lot of their success to working with Stefan Everts when they were kids in Europe. Jett rides a lot like Everts did.

One thing I don’t understand - when you’re considering going to a team at the best of times but especially when a guy has just left under somewhat hostile circumstances - and as this is a very small sport presumably Sexton has heard the historical rumblings re Kawasaki - surely you’d do some due diligence pre signing ? 

Maybe he did and just got BS’ed by everyone he made enquiries to but I’d find that a struggle to believe. 
 

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Spoonguy wrote:
I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to...

I don't know about all the hype Dazzy gets, did he ever race? I think a lot of the Lawrence boy's success can be attributed to Roczen's dad and Johny O.

englishman wrote:
You’ll find that the Lawrence family also attribute a lot of their success to working with Stefan Everts when they were kids in Europe. Jett rides...

You’ll find that the Lawrence family also attribute a lot of their success to working with Stefan Everts when they were kids in Europe. Jett rides a lot like Everts did.

One thing I don’t understand - when you’re considering going to a team at the best of times but especially when a guy has just left under somewhat hostile circumstances - and as this is a very small sport presumably Sexton has heard the historical rumblings re Kawasaki - surely you’d do some due diligence pre signing ? 

Maybe he did and just got BS’ed by everyone he made enquiries to but I’d find that a struggle to believe. 
 

Sexton probably sees or saw himself as better than Prado and therefore any issues Prado had wouldn’t apply to him. I think that’s just the way the elite guys think. I think there’s pretty strong chance that Kawi promised a lot more than they can actually deliver as well 

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4/24/2026 8:23am

I feel like this situation is a ticking time bomb. You never know when it's going to go completely off the rails like Prado did. 

 

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I feel like this situation is a ticking time bomb. You never know when it's going to go completely off the rails like Prado did. 

 

Matthes said that he wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves before outdoors. He did also say that he doesn’t think that’s what will happen, but the fact we’re already at the point where he wouldn’t be surprised to see it tells you something about the situation over there.


Given everything that happened last year, and how much was riding on this year for Kawi, if Sexton makes it even less of the way through the year than Prado did that would be absolutely astonishing 

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that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win...

that's my point. is that the worst thing if you're cashing 7 figure checks? I mean, would YOU cash 7 fig checks knowing you wouldn't win championships? I understand that there's a lot more variables, but this situation is beyond odd and Chase has to start thinking beyond his nose.

ando wrote:

I don’t think the elite guys want to just ride around knowing they can’t win, or aren’t at least competitive.

Matt414 wrote:
I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna...

I think majority of the guys on the gate know they aren’t gonna win. I’d bet the house even Webb knows certain days he’s not gonna win. 

Yeah, but the majority of the guys on the gate aren't on Chase Sexton's level. Guys that are as talented as Chase (and have had the success that Chase has had) only want to win, unless they are in the twilight of their career and simply going out there because they love it and it pays well. Chase is still in what should be his prime. He was on somewhat of an upward trajectory until this year. 

2022 MX: His first season that showed he can truly be an elite 450 guy outdoors; almost beat prime Tomac straight-up for the title.

2023 SX: While it wasn't the most impressive title ever won, he was markedly better than 2021 or 2022 and was the fastest guy more often than not.

2023 MX: Bad result on paper as he missed several rounds and couldn't take a moto from Jett, but I would argue Jett stepped up the level so much that Chase was probably riding even faster than he was in 2022. We've seen how dominant Jett has been against the best in the world since then; the only other guy to race Jett that close for several MX rounds is his brother.

2024 SX: Definitely a step back; had early struggles with the KTM, but was hauling at the end of the season and began to look like the second best guy behind Jett.

2024 MX: While he probably wouldn't win this title against healthy Jett all 11 rounds, he did handedly beat Hunter, who we know is extremely tough competition. His most consistent season by far, and included one of the best single moto performances I've ever seen at Hangtown.

2025 SX: Mental breakdown mid-season, but his performance in the second half of the season was the best riding of his career, including MX, IMO. If he brought that speed and intensity every season, I don't think a soul beats him except Jett, and I even think they'd be battling back and forth.

2025 MX: Throwaway w/ injury and KTM debacle, but he put in a couple of awesome rides showing he was still cream of the crop - Washougal comes to mind.

2026 SX: Straight-up mediocre - pretty similar to 2024 SX when he moved to KTM... unless he finishes strong these last few rounds and/or comes out guns blazing in MX, it will be a really rough look.

In summary, most of his 450 career has been 2 steps forward, 1 step back.. sometimes, 1 step forward, 2 steps back. If he follows up this SX season with a bad MX season, it'll basically be 3 straight steps back. He expects to win because he has won before... 3 straight series of not even being in title contention would be a new low.

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4/24/2026 9:03am

I'm shocked that this is even on the cards for Chase...

If this goes through that's 2 bad breakups It's going to take a special person to recover from this mentally, I don't know man.

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We are one crash and banged up away from his time at Kawi being done. He won’t be at Pala on a green bike. Stamped, signed, approved. 

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4/24/2026 10:23am

I feel like this situation is a ticking time bomb. You never know when it's going to go completely off the rails like Prado did. 

 

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Matthes said that he wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves before outdoors. He did also say that he doesn’t think that’s what will happen, but the...

Matthes said that he wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves before outdoors. He did also say that he doesn’t think that’s what will happen, but the fact we’re already at the point where he wouldn’t be surprised to see it tells you something about the situation over there.


Given everything that happened last year, and how much was riding on this year for Kawi, if Sexton makes it even less of the way through the year than Prado did that would be absolutely astonishing 

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Will Chase really want to be the B rider at Star next to Deegs? Isn’t that why he left Honda?

He wouldn't go to Star. But hey, if Kawi really is that bad you never know...

TAUTOG wrote:

Steve mentions Star so

They were talking at the beginning of april. Deal didnt go through

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I want to see Jett on Kawasaki (not that it'll ever happen). I'm sure bike would not be an issue.

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I want to see Jett on Kawasaki (not that it'll ever happen). I'm sure bike would not be an issue.

It absolutely would be if he asked to try certain parts and they told him "no."

I still want to know why Sexton won a race on PC suspension parts and they haven't been seen since. Why did their "reset" go back to the x-trig clamps when they couldn't find their magical setting and Sexton decided to just "focus on himself?"

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4/24/2026 12:31pm
FerCzD wrote:

I want to see Jett on Kawasaki (not that it'll ever happen). I'm sure bike would not be an issue.

Buckland wrote:
It absolutely would be if he asked to try certain parts and they told him "no."I still want to know why Sexton won a race on...

It absolutely would be if he asked to try certain parts and they told him "no."

I still want to know why Sexton won a race on PC suspension parts and they haven't been seen since. Why did their "reset" go back to the x-trig clamps when they couldn't find their magical setting and Sexton decided to just "focus on himself?"

This^^

He had a setup that looked pretty good, why not keep using that? Did Kaw take those PC parts and duplicate them as close as possible with the KHI approved parts? 

Bizarre..

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