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Nah at this point I think he's out by end of year. His enthusiasm faded super quick. And outdoors is technically where the bike struggles, not indoors. If he's not up front in the first rounds I don't see much hope. Really hope he turns it around and proves everyone wrong. Don't care which bike he's on, when he's on there aren't many that can beat him. Maybe only 1
If Sexton really is looking for a way out and doing it twice as fast as Prado, Im really curious how people are going to justify that move, when it wasnt okay for Prado. Gonna be exciting! Lol
That whole Prado Sexton swap is aging like fine wine. It just gets better every week.
I mean the scenario is completely different.
Prado pissed and moaned about the Kawi, got out of his contract and preformed on the KTM he's been vindicated.
Sexton pissed and moaned about the Honda, but won, went to KTM, pissed and moaned about the KTM but still won, went to Kawi pissed and moaned about the bike but still won.....is the bike not great... probably give that Prado moved and got better, does chase have a problem between the ears that is stopping him from setting the bike up and they are completely lost, I think definitely.
Add in is dad and what an absolute shit show, I feel for Kawi.
If it was Eli he'd make it work and be at the front more than he is at the back and we know that.
Maybe I'm wrong as I don't listen to all the podcasts out there but I don't recall Chase complaining much about the Honda. He won a lot on that bike, 1 SX title and 2nd (twice i think) in the outdoors. From what I heard/read he wanted out of Honda because he didn't want to be rider #2 to Jett. He wanted to be the teams #1 rider.
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Chase pissed and moaned on the Honda and won a championship and on a KTM was a few brain farts away from another championship. He has won A RACE on the Kawi. Nowhere near on form and while you can deride him as a head case, he’s been pretty competitive as one until this year.
there it is 😂
Kawi is not obligated to just let him out of his legal contract because something changed in his mind. Prado's exit was not clean and easy and took time.
insider? No. More like Nostradamus. Maybe Chase needs to enlist a Fortune teller and hypnotist to figure it all out.
Were people giving Prado shit for wanting out of his contract or were they giving him shit for the way he went about doing it? For the majority I tend to think it was the latter. As of now Sexton has been nothing but professional even if he isn’t entirely happy while Prado was the complete opposite. Prado proved to everyone that the Kawasaki was in fact holding him back but I don’t see how that would excuse his attitude last summer.
I really do not understand Chase going to Star. Deegan, Davies, and a horde of adrenillin filled teenage 250 riders hounding him at practices all the while Chase and his dad fiddle fucking around endlessly with settings for a "feel" doesn't seem like a cool arrangement. It would be nice to know what exactly is going on at Kawasaki.
Back in April Jorge was pretty positive still 😉 Let's see what happens over the next 2-3 months
Yeah who knows what will happen in the future but as of now rumblings of Sexton wanting out is completely different than Jorge refusing to set a lap in qualifying as some sort of temper tantrum and elaborate plan to get out of his contract.
Also people need to stop trying to write the criticisms of Jorge last season off as nothing but bias. Most fans were excited to see him go to the US and if any other rider did what he did they’d be raked over the coals too.
I think if Chase were to end up at Star, Bobby keeps Chase’s dad on the sidelines for most of it. Haiden is a different animal because without Brian, the Haiden bad boy aura probably wouldn’t exist, he’d still be winning but not as animated and not trying to sell a brand. Whether you agree with it or not, I think Bobby is smart enough to see some benefit with keeping Brian involved. I also don’t think Brian is bringing parts to the Goat Farm to put on Haiden’s bike or telling the mechanics what they should change.
I don't know about Chase riding out the next 3-years on Kawasaki...but for sure, Kawasaki needs to seriously get their act together and fast! Having the last 3-4 elite riders basically call out the bike as being crap & the team as being unwilling to change...they'll have a poor chance of snagging any top-tier riders any more...in my humble opinion.
Mathes logic about Star being a Sexton destination is just based on liklihood of JCoop leaving for another brand bc his contract is up? Is there anything more to it than that, otherwise it reads a little hollow.
Agreed. If Jorge goes and wins an SX race and the MX title it doesn't right the way he handled the situation. But I think with chase it isn't gonna end pretty either. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't imagine them simply letting him leave if he asks kindly
Except when Jett was beating him before getting hurt?
Im going to guess it comes down to the first 3-4 rounds of outdoors. If Chase isn't at the front and riding well in those first few rounds I am betting his first tip over turns into an "undisclosed injury" and he sits at home and pouts.
Pit Row
I think people are forgetting how Jorge handled last year, he was pretty professional in his interviews and wasn’t even that harsh, he would just start sinking back in most races to like 7th or 8th after the 10 minute point, and then eventually by the end of the year sinking back to like 15ths. I honestly haven’t watched may of Sexton’s interviews this year but he seems to be handling this quite professionally
Not a Jorge thread but people still does not see that the ”quitting” / trying not to qualify probably was to make absolute sure he got out from there. Not pretty but he had to.
If he was made to stay, trying to make things better for two more years, it was going to be absolutely career ending, resultwise or injuries and he knew it.
What measures will Chase have to take to get out? Banged up? Epstein barr? Try to not qualify? All 3?
Riding out the contract will be… career ending!
Everything is excused by now.
Prado clearly said that we had no idea what was happening behind the scenes. I interpret that as Kawi being asholes, and possibly Monster.
Monster refused to discuss the option of letting Prado go early, that is already established.
If I where Prado, I would have done everything I could to get out early including to fail qualifying if that what it took to get Monster to even consider it.
Prado gave up a shitload of guarateed cash, and saved his career. Staying 3 years would have killed it.
That's exactly what it was. Monster refused to even discuss early release before that.
Chase has already thrown the team and bike under the bus. It translate to exactly the same meaning: bike is not good, team is lost.
They just used different words 😄
Kawi is probably not stoked on that interview if it was just before his crash, or first one after.
Whether it’s fair or not won’t the Prado/Sexton stuff start to impact consumer sales? That’s probably the biggest threat to kawi.
Curious, has he been on the new 27 that’s coming out? Supposed to be all new? Or am I wrong on that.
It seems like to chase the grass is always greener on the other side, just curious what options are left for the other side?
I remember hearing him say he signed a 3 year deal, I couldn't believe it, they can't be content anywhere.
So, what do we know about a 2027 Kawi? They homologated a bike early for RV one year. They could do it again, unless of course they feel Chase would still complain and essentially destroy any sales hope for their new bike (if there is a new and different one).
Unless they made a complete 180 on philosophy, 2027 won't be different. It was designed well before Chase and even Prado joined.
You can compare the change probably needed like between KTM 2022 and 2023, but again that's a very radical design change from KTM to go with a no squat design for 2023. KTM went from feeling like KTM has done since 2013 to a very different feeling and philosophy. Still not enough change compared to going between brands. But as big as it gets probably (beside Yami switching head direction).
Chase's dad is a big fat problem that's for sure...
Wholly speculation on my part but I think Jorge found himself with few (or no) reasonable options. Rarely do high value contracts in any field end early without getting messy. He found himself in a completely untenable situation and did what he had to in order to extract himself.
Reminds me of a quote, can’t recall who said it - “the reasonable man bends to the will of the world; the unreasonable man seeks to bend the world to his will. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man”
I agree with you - Chase just won’t be able to ask to leave. If anything Kawasaki won’t want this to happen twice and will dig their heels in even further this time.
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