Official Prado Public Apology Thread

Village Idiot wrote:

This thread isn't about what I would have done, so no need to change the subject and derail the thread. People are calling him a quitter while...

This thread isn't about what I would have done, so no need to change the subject and derail the thread. 

People are calling him a quitter while others are saying he's not and the OP feels Prado is owed an apology by the former group because he finished 3rd at A1. I'm not sure what recent race results have to do with his conduct last year, but like so many topics on here the issues get muddied and emotion rules the day.

Your post heavily implied that he quit - possibly because he felt it was a last resort, but still quit - to get out of an arrangement that wasn't going the way he envisioned when he agreed to it. If that's the case then you are admitting he's a quitter and I was asking why so many are saying he's not and object to calling him one. But the reason for quitting wouldn't change the fact that he quit, agreed?

Lord knows I'm wading into dangerous waters here but it seems to me that people are objecting to the term "quitter" because they think others are saying that's how he does everything (which is obviously not the case). But you only have to kill one person to be a killer and once you've done it you are never not a killer - it applies forever going forward.

So, you can be a hard-working, likable, multi-time champion and still be a quitter. Doesn't mean you quit on everything all the time, but it would still be accurate and correct to put on a list of accomplishments (along with likable, champion, etc.). So, I don't see where people who accurately identified his behavior need to apologize for it. Heck, they might even be rooting for him going forward but despise how he handled the situation - I don't see them being mutually exclusive - sort of like parents being extremely disappointed in their kid but they aren't going to stop loving them (but that's just me, others might disagree).

Hope it clarifies things. 👍

aees wrote:

Reason is everything. If kawi would have given him a shitty stock bikenas the only option, no one would even discuss not qualifying as a quitting approach...

Reason is everything. 

If kawi would have given him a shitty stock bikenas the only option, no one would even discuss not qualifying as a quitting approach would them.

You don't have a answer, because there was only two options:

Ride out the contract, or take drastic actions. 

Don't need a book for a reply for that.

Village Idiot wrote:

I knew trying to have a reasoned discussion would come back to bite me, but here we are.So, using your logic, if your significant other was...

I knew trying to have a reasoned discussion would come back to bite me, but here we are.

So, using your logic, if your significant other was cheating on you and you caught them, it would be okay with you as long as they gave you a satisfactory reason. And if someone killed your mother, again, you'd be okay with letting them off as long as they gave you a satisfactory reason. Because, using your words, "reason is everything". I can't say I'd do the same, but hey, it's your logic, not mine.

And I gave you an answer... but not to the question you tried to ask to shift attention from the topic at hand... because it appears you don't want to address it factually and seem to have an aversion to the correct English word to describe it.

In this instance, "take drastic actions" = quit.

I'll refer you to your own advice - Why use several words when one will suffice: quitter. 

It's not an insult, it's simply an accurate term in this situation.

Have a good evening.

EAmato88 wrote:

one race means nothing at all. Check back in 2 months and well see where were at

mxxxeR1 wrote:

He'LL probably wins his first supercross in two months....l'll also tell you where......daytona

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KurtJ99 wrote:

"It's only the first round" - doesn't mean it means nothing. Doing better earlier (spectacularly better)- Prado - is better than doing something later. Starting out bad...

"It's only the first round" - doesn't mean it means nothing. 

Doing better earlier (spectacularly better)- Prado - is better than doing something later. Starting out bad - Sexton - ain't good. Credit to him for limiting the damage and finishing right behind Webb. And I am confident that like Eli in those weird years Sexton will get better. But OK it's not. 

Prado has opened up a whole new world and expectation, and for Sexton it is the same as we saw in previous years, but maybe worse because it's the first race. 

 

aees wrote:

It's not the results only. It's how he rode. He did jump combos others hesitated to do consistently. He looked like he's 5 years into SX...

It's not the results only. It's how he rode. He did jump combos others hesitated to do consistently. He looked like he's 5 years into SX like Hunter. Compare to last year it was night and day difference.

But he will be start dependent for sure. 1.07 up front doesn't give you top 5 starting 10th or 15th.

FroDiddy wrote:

McGrath on Suzuki.

Stewart on Yamaha.

This wasn't anything new, and I'm baffled as to why anyone thought Prado had magically lost his ability to ride?  

OwenJakes wrote:

How is he a quitter? What if that bike was genuinely not setup to ride safe for him? What if the team was genuinely not providing...

How is he a quitter? What if that bike was genuinely not setup to ride safe for him? What if the team was genuinely not providing for him what he needed? If this was the case, who would be the expert authority to say so? That would be Jorge Prado. Who would have the authority to counter these claims? That would be the team structure that NEVER commented. 

You old heads get an idea in your mind and refuse to ever change and it’s embarrassing. Dude went from being beaten by privateers to winning his heat and podiuming and the ONLY change he made is bike+team. Yet, many still say “yeah he just quit last year that’s the problem”. You guys honestly aren’t smart enough to vote let alone drive a car. 

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

Bonanza69 wrote:

I‘m sorry that Jett will not win the title this year

I‘m sorry that Hunter couldn‘t catch Prado

I‘m sorry………..

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

Andy7 wrote:

If Sexton puts that Kawasaki on the top step of the podium, will you take this post down? Or will you come up with some sort...

If Sexton puts that Kawasaki on the top step of the podium, will you take this post down? Or will you come up with some sort of "but"?

30minmotos wrote:

He FORCED his way out of a guaranteed multi year multi million dollar deal and bet on himself massively.  I agree with what you’re saying.Too many...

He FORCED his way out of a guaranteed multi year multi million dollar deal and bet on himself massively.  I agree with what you’re saying.

Too many inbreds saying he should have tried his hardest even if that meant racing well below where he knows he should be. Mitch Payton himself said the 450 team found 20% over the season… that tells me they weren’t doing shit before hand, and making those gains mid season or by the end is too little too late. They needed Prado to force them to give it any effort in developing the kawi… total joke. He needed the 20% better bike in October 24 not in October 25, and then maybe they could have gotten somewhere. They were too slow, too stubborn, too big ego’d to get a move on.

Everyone still wondering what happened on the review pods…idk man, maybe listen to what Prado has been saying all along? He’s been honest the whole time and that’s what offended everyone lol.

brocster wrote:

Your are forgetting one simple fact there cowboy. He test rode the bike BEFORE signing the exclusive deal. Did it have enough power then???  Obviously so…No...

Your are forgetting one simple fact there cowboy. He test rode the bike BEFORE signing the exclusive deal. Did it have enough power then???  Obviously so…No one, absolutely no one, especially a 4 time MXGP champ signs a deal on a bike with inadequate power. 

30minmotos wrote:

And round and round we go… so your theory is what? He didn’t like green and forced his way off a massive contract onto a contract...

And round and round we go… so your theory is what? He didn’t like green and forced his way off a massive contract onto a contract for a fraction because orange matched his shoes better?

Village Idiot wrote:

This thread isn't about what I would have done, so no need to change the subject and derail the thread. People are calling him a quitter while...

This thread isn't about what I would have done, so no need to change the subject and derail the thread. 

People are calling him a quitter while others are saying he's not and the OP feels Prado is owed an apology by the former group because he finished 3rd at A1. I'm not sure what recent race results have to do with his conduct last year, but like so many topics on here the issues get muddied and emotion rules the day.

Your post heavily implied that he quit - possibly because he felt it was a last resort, but still quit - to get out of an arrangement that wasn't going the way he envisioned when he agreed to it. If that's the case then you are admitting he's a quitter and I was asking why so many are saying he's not and object to calling him one. But the reason for quitting wouldn't change the fact that he quit, agreed?

Lord knows I'm wading into dangerous waters here but it seems to me that people are objecting to the term "quitter" because they think others are saying that's how he does everything (which is obviously not the case). But you only have to kill one person to be a killer and once you've done it you are never not a killer - it applies forever going forward.

So, you can be a hard-working, likable, multi-time champion and still be a quitter. Doesn't mean you quit on everything all the time, but it would still be accurate and correct to put on a list of accomplishments (along with likable, champion, etc.). So, I don't see where people who accurately identified his behavior need to apologize for it. Heck, they might even be rooting for him going forward but despise how he handled the situation - I don't see them being mutually exclusive - sort of like parents being extremely disappointed in their kid but they aren't going to stop loving them (but that's just me, others might disagree).

Hope it clarifies things. 👍

aees wrote:

Reason is everything. If kawi would have given him a shitty stock bikenas the only option, no one would even discuss not qualifying as a quitting approach...

Reason is everything. 

If kawi would have given him a shitty stock bikenas the only option, no one would even discuss not qualifying as a quitting approach would them.

You don't have a answer, because there was only two options:

Ride out the contract, or take drastic actions. 

Don't need a book for a reply for that.

ohh_454 wrote:

Could there have been a third option where he rides hard and quietly has his agent and lawyers working behind the scenes to buy himself out...

Could there have been a third option where he rides hard and quietly has his agent and lawyers working behind the scenes to buy himself out of his contract since he made a mistake signing with them? Bubba rode his ass off on that JGR Yamaha and still got out of his contract after sx and changed teams outdoors. I don’t remember James not trying to qualify and I’m sure that Yamaha was a little scarier then the Kawi. 

cwel11 wrote:

Jesus you guys are arguably worse than Deegan bedbugs. Great night for him last night, but let’s see how he responds to some adversity then we’ll...

Jesus you guys are arguably worse than Deegan bedbugs. Great night for him last night, but let’s see how he responds to some adversity then we’ll see what we got. He had great starts and his speed was way better than I expected in SX but A1 always has weird stuff. He rode around in his own world for the most part last night. Can we ease it up a bit? No one jumped all over him in one bad race last year, it took multiple rounds of half ass effort and quitting. One great ride doesn’t erase that. 

125Rider wrote:

Well said… this is thread is full of nonsense. Especially from Owenjakes.. which is his MO 💁‍♂️

gt80rider wrote:

Ummmmmmmmm ... lol... the entire year of 2025 that's why.... 

inthebadboycorner wrote:

You will feel sorry for Jorge when both Hunter and Jett finish ahead of him at the end of the stupid SMX championship.

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

30minmotos wrote:

In what his 7th try? He made the podium? Faster than how many Americans who spent a decade at sx training facilities….

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

30minmotos wrote:

In what his 7th try? He made the podium? Faster than how many Americans who spent a decade at sx training facilities….

VHM wrote:

Prado's 7th sx race and 26 seconds behind a rider in his 16th sx season... How many former champions did he beat? 😅

CPR wrote:

Seriously?

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

Bonanza69 wrote:

I‘m sorry that Jett will not win the title this year

I‘m sorry that Hunter couldn‘t catch Prado

I‘m sorry………..

inthebadboycorner wrote:

You will feel sorry for Jorge when both Hunter and Jett finish ahead of him at the end of the stupid SMX championship.

inthebadboycorner wrote:

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx. I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear...

I'm sorry that you will never be fast enough to win a 450sx.

 I'm sorry that you finished 26 seconds back, even though you had a clear track ahead of you.

I'm sorry your bike was deamed a cheater and you lost points.

I'm sorry you won't finish in the top 5 in SMX this year.

I'm just sorry.

CPR wrote:

Seriously?

VHM wrote:

I think Prado did great! I don't understand people complaining about 26 seconds when Tomac has so many years with sx experience. I know it's only...

I think Prado did great! I don't understand people complaining about 26 seconds when Tomac has so many years with sx experience. I know it's only one race, but Prado finished ahead of sx champions.