I don’t understand the WSX Hate..

It's a better off-season series than Bercy/Paris, and MEC.

I don't understand why people immediately label a different opinion from theirs as "hate". Different strokes for different folks, opinions are like @$$holes, to each his own, live and let live, Kumbaya etc.

Some guys have had nothin  but negative to say about it and wanted it to fail from the start.  I didn't think it was anything great to begin with, but I'm not going to complain about any extra races to watch, especially ones that pay these riders decent. It has gotten better and I think it can continue to get better.  

Lots of people feel the need to complain no matter what. It’s the same as a hospital nursery, one baby starts crying and then all the others join in.

Maybe if you weren't a blockhead you'd understand more?

The original "hate" came from the over-hyped initial series announcements, directly positioning WSX as a "World Championship" of a caliber above the AMA SX series. But then they delivered crap tracks in no-where venues with small gates and no (ok, almost no) top-tier riders. Appears the new owners are a little more serious and the quality of the product is improving. In a few more years it could be a top-notch off season series. My only concern is now there is no off season. Sport is brutal enough - running every weekend is going to increase burnout and injury rates.  

I love it - foreign riders, foreign tracks and the sport we love gets a little more Global presence. Good for riders ($$$) good for sponsors ! ! LOVE IT. It's a challenge for teams i'm sure that also do their own National series - 

Did I hear Ralph, Emig and Blair doing play-by-play? Ralph sounds a lot better now he is not talking down to the audience. From what I saw, I like it,. Like the others said, international stage. I would love two series running concurrently. Fans win. 

Did you step into a time machine? I feel like you're talking about the threads/comments made a year or two ago and applying it to today. Outside of the streaming shitshow last week, it seems like most of the commentary is positive. At this point, there's more "I don't get the hate" threads than hate threads.

I hate WSX because the promoter won't address Vince Friese:s mechanic offering Grant Harlan money to take out Justin Brayton. Not all publicity is good publicity. This doesn't represent supercross well.

I think a lot of it will be the feld guys talking shit.

They dont like that they were forced to come up with SMX to compete, and if it wasn't for world sx they would get away with paying riders less etc etc

Its super interesting that a Monster energy executives son is the "racing manager".. I predict monster will buy it / already own it discreetly 

Don’t see it as much but when it was first introduced a few on here acted like it was threatening FELD/Coombs and the needed to defend them like their life depended on it. To me it’s more racing and more cash for the racers, all good to me!

That was the old promoter....which is the source of most the hate, they were Morans and deserved the failure that they had...the new guys seem to understand their place better but there are still little cringe moments like trying to say that the FIM world sx championship is the best in the world blah blah blah or the calling Emig the 1996 FIM world sx champion are really the only things that caught my attention....

You’re out of your mind. Monster cup was the sickest thing ever.

I think Coty Schock said it best last night and pretty much described 95% of the members on vital. The human mind automatically goes to negativity. People need to work hard not to be negative and be positive. Vital seems to be a cesspool of negativity towards just about everything motocross. I am also guilty of this in life.  

 I really enjoyed WSX!  And while there are things that can be improved upon, I think the positives way outweighed the negatives. 

There is always hate for change or something different.

I think people operate under the assumption that WSX is here to replace and exceed the AMA series, and if you adjust expectations and just see it as another series, it's a great addition to our sport. There have been some shitshows with rounds canceled and the TV stuff, but they have the funding to bring in big stars, they build quality tracks (sometimes), bring SX to new audiences, and give us something to watch during the offseason. From that lens it's a good thing.

I agree. And the media coverage is also exhausting. They (Vital included) put the series through an insane level of scrutiny. I get the reasons for it but it's over the top.

Know their place, lol!

Baby steps...yes, there has been turmoil and change...

But challenges occur in all series, remember the challenges MX Sports had in getting a quality TV program a few years back?

Last's nights Vancouver WSX race perhaps set a good positive benchmark for WSX moving forward. Good racing, acceptable crowd in a venue that has historically low SX turnout, a pay-for-TV system that worked (though not intuitive), and a good production and broadcast team even with Ralph (😉).

It's a different way to go racing with a franchise like team business ownership structure - think F1 with their 11 teams. They are trying to not compete with Feld/SX and the established US SX ecosystem. They are another option. More competition is normally good. I saw Mike Genova on the broadcast. He is a businessman who happens to own the MCR team. I doubt he would be doing this if the return was not satisfactory. Same for RWR, I know nothing about Rick Ware Racing other than they are in a lot of motorsports series. including WSX. Hey, how about their Arby's sponsorship - an outside-the-industry sponsor! So something is working. 

I do wonder if the riders are making adequate compensation? Just don't know. But as Steve Matthes says "...its good for the sport, more racing, more teams, more opportunities for the riders". 

Food for thought: If the Promoters could figure out a way to make it work what if Paris SX (Bercy) became an European round next year for WSX? This provides WSX growth and a bit of cachet for the Paris SX. It would not add yet another race but could possible benefit both parties. 

At least WSX isn’t afraid to put more than 9 whoops on their tracks…

I don't know why you got downvoted. Your take is spot on,  in my opinion.  

When Adam Bailey made it clear that he wanted WSX season to compete with the AMA Nationals, he lost me. WSX tried to poach our best riders away from the nationals. 

That was a direct assault on the grass roots of our sport, and I wasn't going to ever support that.

But a nice, short WSX series tucked into our off-season? Absolutely, why not? 

Watched it earlier, racing was decent, track was good, needs a few better riders , but other than that , it was fine. 

Not a fan of the Ken situation. Not a fan of Ralph. A few little things they could do better for sure, but a few races in-between mxon and A1..? Yes please. 

I think it's great for more money and coverage for the sport.  But it's a B level series. Calling it world sx series and not racing in the states where all racers come to try and win a title. I could care less about the broadcast crew. 

They just need to add a dragon's back and they're golden. 

I don't think anybody hates it. That said, how do you feel about posers? I mean, don't you feel weird if you're with someone that starts bragging about all sorts of shit that isn't true? It's a little hard to respect them, right? As an example, when they started taking about how Tomac just won on a 4th brand, it was epic fail. Winning WSX doesn't compare to winning in the AMA or the GPs. Someday it might be, but that isn't today. Regardless of how you like Ralph and Emig, they are factually AMA cast offs. Many of the racers aren't much different. They bring in some heavy hitters and then the rest are arenacross caliber guys etc. Is their anything wrong with that? Hell no those guys are badasses on a bike. But don't pretend it's the same tier as AMA SX. 

I predict within 5 years this will be the premier SX series moving forward…just need a reliable TV/ streaming package…. feld and coombs sports will focus on cornhole & pickelball events….

People with nothing better to do.

I don’t think you understand what grass roots means.