What’s the worst you’ve ever gotten your ass beat trying to troubleshoot a dirtbike ?

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11/8/2025 6:01am
sandman768 wrote:

I was unaware honda had electric start in 09

*2018.  I originally had 2018 typed but thought it was longer ago than that.   

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11/8/2025 6:30am
davermz450 wrote:
Not a dirtbike, 2008 f150 with a 4.6. Dropped a 7mm deep socket down the spark plug well right after I got the plug out and...

Not a dirtbike, 2008 f150 with a 4.6. Dropped a 7mm deep socket down the spark plug well right after I got the plug out and moving on to the next coil over plug. 2.5 hrs of using a magnet to fish it out. 

I have some horror stories about an '08 F150. That was the most unreliable "hunk of junk" I've ever owned lol. It was my second 4.6...

I have some horror stories about an '08 F150. That was the most unreliable "hunk of junk" I've ever owned lol. It was my second 4.6 and enough to drive me away from ever purchasing a Ford product again 🤣. The most egregious of that truck was a randomly bent exhaust valve that only intermittently caused a miss. I spent MONTHS trying to figure it out because it would only misfire intermittently. I bought that truck before leaving for college from a "buy here pay here" lot, and ultimately learned not to buy vehicles from those places.

I just sold my 3 valve 4.6 explorer and had no issues with it over 200,000 miles. Solid engine if it's taken care of, not great for people who try extended oil changes. 

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My age is showing.  I was a Jr in high school.  My mother bought me a brand new 1973 Suzuki TM 250.  It never ran clean...

My age is showing.  I was a Jr in high school.  My mother bought me a brand new 1973 Suzuki TM 250.  It never ran clean from the day I got it. The shop made it clear they were jetted wrong and Suzuki was coming up correct jets, which they never did.   We tried every jet we could find back then.  As I recall the main jet size we needed we couldn’t get.  We even tried to solder the main jet and re drill it.  That didn’t work, solder wouldn’t hold.  At near wide open it ran sorta clean but still as hard as it hit, was a pain in the ass to ride.  Trying to kick start that I’ll jetted bike was an experience, would kick back and dang near throw ya over the bars,  We spent hours playing with that carburetor.  Just a bunch of us dumb kids trying to race I guess.

I made a few races but it was a handful to get around the track.  Seems like I had it 6, 8 mo.  I finally gave up and drove the 90 miles from Ada, Oklahoma to Oklahoma City and traded it for a CZ.  I got really good trade in.  Those TM Suzukis had horrible suspension, but they were crazy fast.  River races were really popular in Oklahoma back then. River racers liked the TM’s cause they were fast and would haul ass down the South Canadian river bottom.

Brad Lackey wrote a really good article about how Suzuki scrapped the TM program and fired all the engineers.  If there was ever an MX bike from HELL it was a TM 250 Suzuki.  I actually think the transfer ports were so mismatched to the cylinder porting it just wasn’t right.  Some of the older guys got theirs to run right.  I was just a kid back then and didn’t have good sense lol.  

mumbles wrote:
Funny about the 73 TM 250. I had one also. It was my first real MX bike. Those were automatic oilers. Your right the jetting wasn't...

Funny about the 73 TM 250. I had one also. It was my first real MX bike. Those were automatic oilers. Your right the jetting wasn't great. Of course the Suzuki shop said to run Golden Spectro. So I did. Well I guess they mixed too much oil with the auto oiling system. I was going full tilt in 3rd gear and the rear wheel locked up on it. It broke the chain and broke a gear in the tranny. My dad and I disconnected the oiler and started mixing the gas. Back then they said to run the ration at 30:1. We did and it still ran blubbery. About that time (74 or so) Bel-Ray came out with their MC1. Some guy at a race told me to run that at 50:1. I thought how can an engine get lubricated only using that ratio but I bought a bottle and tried it. It worked great. Bike ran much better and I never had an engine failure. I ran that on all my 2 strokes after that. But yes that bike was super fast and hard to ride as all of it's power was very high in the rpm. You better be ready when it kicked in. I won a lot with that bike though. 

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After that TM250 I bought a 76 RM250. One of the best bikes I ever owned. One day it wouldn't start. I played around with it and finally I buddy had a 77 RM250 so we swapped the cdi from his to mine and it did the same thing. I got frustrated and didn't understand what was going on. I had an older guy that had a small shop I was asking him about it. He said "did you check your spark plug" nd I said "I put a brand new one in" He said "that's your problem". "Go back and put an old back in and I bet she will start". Sure enough put the old spark plug back in and it fired right up. Brand new plug was bad. Never thought that could happen, it was brand new. Lesrned my lesson on that one.

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I had the same Yellow Jersey, my leathers were black and white!

Times have changed.

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Bleeding front brakes after replacing the line and a rebuilt kit for the reservoir. Can’t ever get it back to how it is brand new on the showroom floor. Anyone know the trick?

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11/8/2025 8:12am
kx254f wrote:
Bleeding front brakes after replacing the line and a rebuilt kit for the reservoir. Can’t ever get it back to how it is brand new on...

Bleeding front brakes after replacing the line and a rebuilt kit for the reservoir. Can’t ever get it back to how it is brand new on the showroom floor. Anyone know the trick?

Bleed it from the bottom up and throw a zip tie on the lever at about half compression over night. Might have to do it a couple times. Likely never feel exactly the same though.

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11/8/2025 8:36am Edited Date/Time 11/8/2025 8:37am
49weasel wrote:
So my buddy’s an engineer at Honda on the ATV side. He buys a brand new 2018 CRF450 on a Friday, rides all weekend, and absolutely...

So my buddy’s an engineer at Honda on the ATV side. He buys a brand new 2018 CRF450 on a Friday, rides all weekend, and absolutely loves it. Sunday night he washes it, hits the magic button for a quick start just to hear it purr, then parks it.

Next weekend we meet at the track and the thing won’t start. Dead as hell. He spends the whole damn day screwing with it …. battery, fuel, spark, you name it. Every now and then it’ll sputter for a second just to piss him off, then die again.

Monday he drags it into work. Still no luck. Tuesday, pure coincidence the head engine  engineer for the 2018 CRF450  happens to be in Ohio and decides to check it out. 6 days later now there’s a whole damn group of Honda engineers standing around this bike like it’s a space shuttle. Parts and tools are getting overnighted from Japan. Everyone’s scratching their heads. Two weeks go by. Nothing. This bike is a hot topic in the Honda world ! 
Finally, during a break in the chaos, some intern decides to drop a scope down the spark plug hole  and finds a perfectly balled-up yellow microfiber towel sitting right on top of the piston.

Turns out my buddy shoved the towel in the intake boot when he washed it and forgot. 

Two weeks. Half of Honda’s engineering department. Overnight parts from Japan. All because of a shop rag.

Moral of the story: before you blame the ECU, check for stupid.


 

I have been a Honda registered tech for 32 years and would like to have a word with your buddy, and all his coworkers.

11/8/2025 10:22am Edited Date/Time 11/8/2025 10:23am
davermz450 wrote:
Not a dirtbike, 2008 f150 with a 4.6. Dropped a 7mm deep socket down the spark plug well right after I got the plug out and...

Not a dirtbike, 2008 f150 with a 4.6. Dropped a 7mm deep socket down the spark plug well right after I got the plug out and moving on to the next coil over plug. 2.5 hrs of using a magnet to fish it out. 

I have some horror stories about an '08 F150. That was the most unreliable "hunk of junk" I've ever owned lol. It was my second 4.6...

I have some horror stories about an '08 F150. That was the most unreliable "hunk of junk" I've ever owned lol. It was my second 4.6 and enough to drive me away from ever purchasing a Ford product again 🤣. The most egregious of that truck was a randomly bent exhaust valve that only intermittently caused a miss. I spent MONTHS trying to figure it out because it would only misfire intermittently. I bought that truck before leaving for college from a "buy here pay here" lot, and ultimately learned not to buy vehicles from those places.

Timo wrote:
I just sold my 3 valve 4.6 explorer and had no issues with it over 200,000 miles. Solid engine if it's taken care of, not great...

I just sold my 3 valve 4.6 explorer and had no issues with it over 200,000 miles. Solid engine if it's taken care of, not great for people who try extended oil changes. 

Haha one thing I've never been accused of in my life is neglecting maintenance. Oil was changed every 3,000 miles. I had two F150's with the 4.6. The first one shot spark plugs out of it. The second one bent a valve at about 160,000. Neither having anything to do with oil changes, nor my neglect. 

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11/8/2025 11:41am

Anyone ever worked on a Ducati Scrambler 250 from the 60's? I bought one back in the 1970's from a shop where it had been abandoned and left for dead. This project was my first full sized dirt bike and I was about to learn a lot. Parts were scarce so I ended up using a Mikuni carb off a Kawasaki triple street bike to get it running. It was pretty exciting to see it run and I thought it was really fast! Had to slip the clutch a lot but then it was hard for this 16 yr. old to hang on to. Turns out it only had 3rd gear and up, couldn't shift down to first or second. Well, that explained a lot - haha! My dad helped me split the cases & diagnose the problem. He fixed it by grinding down one of the gears to allow the transmission to work correctly. This was the first time for either of us at a job this tricky, I thought he was a genius! My old man was never a mechanic for a job but I learned a lot and I became a dirt bike junkie and a full time powersports mechanic for decades.

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2004 kxf 250.

The bike would start and run fine for a couple of minutes and then die when it got up to temperature.

Everyone that got some basic knowledge would say electrical related, since it got worse when warm.

Both my dad and me are skilled enough mechanics and swaped parts between my bike and another 250f that I got to borrow.

We changed EVERYTHING electrical, one component at the time and then tested between, and when all the parts were swapped from the flywheel, ignition coil, harness, cdi, sparkplug etc we changed the carb.

Nothing worked, and after that Kawasaki took the bike back and gave me a new one instead.


A year later we talked to a dealer that had a son that raced for Suzuki Sweden and they have had the same problem on one bike.

It turned out that the balance half of the crankshaft got a little crack, causing a small vibration when the bike got hot so the flywheel would wobble so slightly that the pick up ignition coil on the stator would miss the reading and the bike would stop.


 

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11/8/2025 12:25pm
kx254f wrote:
Bleeding front brakes after replacing the line and a rebuilt kit for the reservoir. Can’t ever get it back to how it is brand new on...

Bleeding front brakes after replacing the line and a rebuilt kit for the reservoir. Can’t ever get it back to how it is brand new on the showroom floor. Anyone know the trick?

Bleed it from the bottom up and throw a zip tie on the lever at about half compression over night. Might have to do it a...

Bleed it from the bottom up and throw a zip tie on the lever at about half compression over night. Might have to do it a couple times. Likely never feel exactly the same though.

Bleeding it bottom up - are you bleeding it through the reservoir or just the brake line?

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11/8/2025 2:42pm
kx254f wrote:

Bleeding it bottom up - are you bleeding it through the reservoir or just the brake line?

You bleed from the caliper "up" with a small section of tubing and a syringe. Youtube something like Reverse Brake Bleed MX and you'll find a bunch of videos. Buy the right stuff beforehand though. The right size tubing, syringe, etc all make a difference. Also helpful to have a second syringe to suck fluid out of the reservoir so it doesn't make a giant mess.

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11/8/2025 2:47pm Edited Date/Time 11/8/2025 2:47pm

Not a dirt bike, but I freshened up my old 07 GSXR 750 and couldn't figure out why my highbeam wouldn't turn off, and my normal headlight would turn on. I spent 3 days and late nights troubleshooting it, multi-meter out, and back pinning harnesses. It was an absolute nightmare and I couldn't figure it out.

Turns out I swapped the plugs for the headlight and high beam and didnt realize it.

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11/8/2025 3:27pm

Does kicking a 1986 CR125 for half an hour before discovering you left a rag in the airboot qualify? What's worse is I was showing my new bike to some friends at the time. 

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11/8/2025 8:21pm

Another time on my friends beta 125 rr '21 and anyone with a beta around then will know what I'm talking about. This happened after 2 years of owning it. 

Get to the track friend warms up bike good goes to take off. Gives it gas and it bogs out n stalls out. Instant reaction was fouled the plug it was 2 years old. Swapped it out and proceeded to kick it over a bunch. Nothing so we start trying to push start it. After about the 6th attempt. Friend was about to give up. 

I say it's not venting probably so I just crack open the gas cap to vent. Let it sit a moment couple kicks later it starts up n running fine. Beta had some weird vent system then and the infamous green ball thing inside the cap. 

Would fall out and block the cap from venting. 

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11/9/2025 1:40am
davermz450 wrote:
Not a dirtbike, 2008 f150 with a 4.6. Dropped a 7mm deep socket down the spark plug well right after I got the plug out and...

Not a dirtbike, 2008 f150 with a 4.6. Dropped a 7mm deep socket down the spark plug well right after I got the plug out and moving on to the next coil over plug. 2.5 hrs of using a magnet to fish it out. 

I have some horror stories about an '08 F150. That was the most unreliable "hunk of junk" I've ever owned lol. It was my second 4.6...

I have some horror stories about an '08 F150. That was the most unreliable "hunk of junk" I've ever owned lol. It was my second 4.6 and enough to drive me away from ever purchasing a Ford product again 🤣. The most egregious of that truck was a randomly bent exhaust valve that only intermittently caused a miss. I spent MONTHS trying to figure it out because it would only misfire intermittently. I bought that truck before leaving for college from a "buy here pay here" lot, and ultimately learned not to buy vehicles from those places.

Timo wrote:
I just sold my 3 valve 4.6 explorer and had no issues with it over 200,000 miles. Solid engine if it's taken care of, not great...

I just sold my 3 valve 4.6 explorer and had no issues with it over 200,000 miles. Solid engine if it's taken care of, not great for people who try extended oil changes. 

Some of them run forever and some don't make it past 150,000. My 05 5.4 didn't make it far past 150,000.

My 2V 4.6 with 250,000 runs better than my 16 Ecoboost.

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79 Husky 390 OR. Would just shut off at full throttle after hitting a series of bumps. Looked for wire issues till while riding one day with no helmet around the yard, I heard metal rattling in my pipe?

They used a double walled pipe for noise reduction or something and it was falling apart inside. The pieces of metal had formed themselves into a perfect ball shape that would block the exhaust where it narrowed at the stinger! But would move when I slowed down I guess. 
After cleaning a carb on an old Husky it ran like shit, only push started. Friend spotted my pilot jet on my toolbox and said”where does this go?” I said inside my carb!

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11/9/2025 9:12am
49weasel wrote:
So my buddy’s an engineer at Honda on the ATV side. He buys a brand new 2018 CRF450 on a Friday, rides all weekend, and absolutely...

So my buddy’s an engineer at Honda on the ATV side. He buys a brand new 2018 CRF450 on a Friday, rides all weekend, and absolutely loves it. Sunday night he washes it, hits the magic button for a quick start just to hear it purr, then parks it.

Next weekend we meet at the track and the thing won’t start. Dead as hell. He spends the whole damn day screwing with it …. battery, fuel, spark, you name it. Every now and then it’ll sputter for a second just to piss him off, then die again.

Monday he drags it into work. Still no luck. Tuesday, pure coincidence the head engine  engineer for the 2018 CRF450  happens to be in Ohio and decides to check it out. 6 days later now there’s a whole damn group of Honda engineers standing around this bike like it’s a space shuttle. Parts and tools are getting overnighted from Japan. Everyone’s scratching their heads. Two weeks go by. Nothing. This bike is a hot topic in the Honda world ! 
Finally, during a break in the chaos, some intern decides to drop a scope down the spark plug hole  and finds a perfectly balled-up yellow microfiber towel sitting right on top of the piston.

Turns out my buddy shoved the towel in the intake boot when he washed it and forgot. 

Two weeks. Half of Honda’s engineering department. Overnight parts from Japan. All because of a shop rag.

Moral of the story: before you blame the ECU, check for stupid.


 

OldTech wrote:

I have been a Honda registered tech for 32 years and would like to have a word with your buddy, and all his coworkers.

I want to know how you get a shop towel past the intake valves. Seems physically impossible.

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A couple. 

My YZ465, I can't get the chain to line up. I start thinking I have the wheel offset wrong. I'm switching wheels, mickey mousing wheel spacers. This all happens over a couple weeks. I finally look at the swingarm I replaced with it's chain guide mounted and realize the chain guide was bent. Then old chain guide was scratched and dented. The newer one was pretty. A couple of whacks with a dead blow hammer brought it all back in alignment.

Same YZ465, went to start it and it backfired. Would not start, an occasional pop. Went through the whole carb thing, electronics switching because I had all the spares. Towing it to try and bump start. It turns out the woodruff key can shear in a backfire and put the timing off. 

My 99 YZ400 had to sit from work and some crash aches and pains. When I went to start it back up, nothing. Went through the whole deal of sparks plugs, check electronics etc., etc. Puled the carb apart 5 times, new jets, diaphragms on and on. Used up a half dozen cans of carb cleaner. Finally took the carb to my dealer which was an old school dealer and let me leave it in their hot tank. A couple day later I go pick it up and the counter guy said when he blew it out a black slime came out. Turns out the fuel line deteriorated from ethanol. I checked the fuel line when I got home and noticed how soft it was. Cut the fuel line in half and can see how gummy it was. I only use Motion Pro ethanol safe fuel line since then.

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captmoto wrote:

I want to know how you get a shop towel past the intake valves. Seems physically impossible.

Think he said one of those microfiber ones, it could probably chop up one of those. I just wanted to razz on those engineers who over complicated the simplest and most reliable ATV`s ever made, just to not use a CVT! Fortunately, this is about dirt bikes, or I could fill the entire thread with nightmares 

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Another time on my friends beta 125 rr '21 and anyone with a beta around then will know what I'm talking about. This happened after 2...

Another time on my friends beta 125 rr '21 and anyone with a beta around then will know what I'm talking about. This happened after 2 years of owning it. 

Get to the track friend warms up bike good goes to take off. Gives it gas and it bogs out n stalls out. Instant reaction was fouled the plug it was 2 years old. Swapped it out and proceeded to kick it over a bunch. Nothing so we start trying to push start it. After about the 6th attempt. Friend was about to give up. 

I say it's not venting probably so I just crack open the gas cap to vent. Let it sit a moment couple kicks later it starts up n running fine. Beta had some weird vent system then and the infamous green ball thing inside the cap. 

Would fall out and block the cap from venting. 

I’m pretty sure Beta still puts those stupid green things in the tank.  First time I took the cap off my 24 300 RX that green thing fell out on the garage floor.  Call my dealer buddy where I bought it, he said throw it away.  It’s some Euro thing to keep fuel from spilling out if you tump over as we used to say back in Oklahoma.

Glad mine fell out on the ground instead of bottom of the tank.

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11/9/2025 11:28am

Replaced crank bearings and seals on the 89 KX500. 

When I was about to reinstall the gearbox I fumbled it on the bench and it all came apart.

I have a good manual so I got it all put back together and installed it. Put the whole thing back together and before putting the cylinder back on I decided to check the shifting.

It would shift into first and second and that was it. Back apart. Jacked with it for hours trying to figure out what was happening. Everything looked right and straight. 

It was a Sunday, so I gave up for the day. Tuesday I call a buddy at the kawi shop. I barely finished my complaint sentence and he said: "You have the shift forks out of order. 2 are nearly identical but are not".

Well, shit.... 

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When I was prepping my bike and the wife had told me to clean out the shop!

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89/90 RM 80's kept having the stator go bad...  Quickly.  Ended up being the plastic side cover was warped allowing water in. Machined aluminum cover was the answer and no more problems.   Only had to swap it back for Loretta Lynn's stock class requirements. 

 

Other was piston skirts cracking.  Found out the bore hone being used was slightly out of round. 

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Worked on a 2007 Crf250r for a buddy who said it was running great and it just shut off instantly like he pressed the kill switch but it wouldn’t start after. He brings it by and it turns over has good compression check the valves clean the carb all the normal stuff. Put it back together kick it and that unforgettable feeling of being shocked by a spark plug. Check the wires and spark plug everything is normal so I try again get shocked. Repeat this process over and over again till I finally reach my breaking point. Buddy takes bike to Honda dealer and they found that the stator had a little break in the wire that was shorting out. 

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88 Rm250, full restoration….totally disassembled carb, vapor blasted, all oem rebuild kit. Set to factory specs…. Bike would not clean out, ran like choke was on...

88 Rm250, full restoration….totally disassembled carb, vapor blasted, all oem rebuild kit. Set to factory specs…. Bike would not clean out, ran like choke was on, when it wasn’t…. Had carb on/ off 10 times, doubled checked everything…Eliminated everything else I could think of….finally turned pet cock off while running, ran great right before it ran out of fuel…. Out of desperation I installed a well worn 96 CR250 carb that I just happen to have laying around…..fired right up, ran perfect, didn’t even have to change 1 jet….that Keihin is still on that 88 RM250 ..But I have a mint looking Mikuni TMX slingshot carb sitting in a box….Assume carb body had a small crack or the rubber body gasket was bad, I did separate the body of the carb and the rubber gasket looked ok…

Mine did the exact same thing. Runs mint on the CR PJ carb. 

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Bought a 1992 KX 250 that was "rebuilt". Looked super nice. Linkage had some play after one ride. All bearings were used bearings with fresh grease. Wheel bearings, linkage, swingarm, steering. All needed to be redone. Shock was the wrong year, reservoir hit the pipe, shaft was rusty. Got that fixed. Bottom end bearing went out. Got that fixed along with a new sleeve for the cylinder. Then the clutch cover had cracked and been welded by the previous guy. Started pouring oil out of the welded repair. Bought a new used cover, no more leaks. Started it up and starts puking coolant everywhere. Forgot a spacer behind the impeller and it wasn't flowing coolant. Rode for half hour and no leaks. I am now scared to race it again but I think I have it all fixed?

 

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captmoto wrote:
A couple. My YZ465, I can't get the chain to line up. I start thinking I have the wheel offset wrong. I'm switching wheels, mickey mousing wheel...

A couple. 

My YZ465, I can't get the chain to line up. I start thinking I have the wheel offset wrong. I'm switching wheels, mickey mousing wheel spacers. This all happens over a couple weeks. I finally look at the swingarm I replaced with it's chain guide mounted and realize the chain guide was bent. Then old chain guide was scratched and dented. The newer one was pretty. A couple of whacks with a dead blow hammer brought it all back in alignment.

Same YZ465, went to start it and it backfired. Would not start, an occasional pop. Went through the whole carb thing, electronics switching because I had all the spares. Towing it to try and bump start. It turns out the woodruff key can shear in a backfire and put the timing off. 

My 99 YZ400 had to sit from work and some crash aches and pains. When I went to start it back up, nothing. Went through the whole deal of sparks plugs, check electronics etc., etc. Puled the carb apart 5 times, new jets, diaphragms on and on. Used up a half dozen cans of carb cleaner. Finally took the carb to my dealer which was an old school dealer and let me leave it in their hot tank. A couple day later I go pick it up and the counter guy said when he blew it out a black slime came out. Turns out the fuel line deteriorated from ethanol. I checked the fuel line when I got home and noticed how soft it was. Cut the fuel line in half and can see how gummy it was. I only use Motion Pro ethanol safe fuel line since then.

This reminded me of another one…

Friend had a brand-new 08 CRF450 that his wife bought while he was overseas for work. Unfortunately it sat with fuel in it for a long time before he got home and the fuel was pretty stale. Helped him flush all the old fuel out and disassembled/cleaned the carb. Got it all back together, bike wouldn’t idle and backfired like crazy. Disassembled/reassembled carb several times, checked jets for obstructions, etc, same results. 

This was a brand-new bike and I had disassembled/reassembled the FCR carb dozens of times as I had CRFs from 03-on, so I was stumped as to why it would run that way. Finally, I thought to check the orientation of the floating plate on the slide. The plate is installed upside down if it looks like it’s correct, based on shape. My friend had popped the plate off helping and I had slapped it back on in the position I thought was correct based on shape…which was upside down. Turned it around and the bike ran like it should. 

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11/10/2025 9:48am

I realized I had made a mistake, when my 86 IT 200 burst into flames…

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11/10/2025 10:43am

YZ250F top end. struggled to get the timing correct. a lot of fussing and messing with it. ended up dropping a dowel or something behind the stator or clutch I don't remember.  It sent me over the edge and i kicked the bike off the stand and proceeded to keep flipping down the driveway like a tire in a strong man competition.  what ever it was eventually came back out and i loaded the bike up and took it to a shop. Yamahas like to fight me with everything.  Even putting plastics on that bike turned into a headache VS the KX it replaced. 

 

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11/10/2025 10:52am

I realized I had made a mistake, when my 86 IT 200 burst into flames…

        HaHaHa lapped rider, good thing you learn quick !   

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