Poll- Deegs or JCoop

9/27/2025 12:41pm
gt80rider wrote:

24% of vital readers are bed bugs, got it! 

Hey - if it was a AMA race - Coop all the way.  But this is the MXDN and we need the best 250 rider out there (assuming his injury is good to go).  Also - he has something to prove by not winning SMX, by being a dick and getting bad press and i think he will come out with fire in his eyes and ride like he wants to prove he is the shit.  If he is feeling disrespected and thinks the world is against him - he will come out with fire in his eyes, blood boiling and wanting to prove he is the fastest 250 - that is someone I want on Team USA!!

Go Team USA!!

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9/27/2025 12:50pm
Dan541 wrote:
I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the...

I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the best 250 rider, hands down. And if he can perform, he's the best bet.

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.

He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and nail. I doubt a unhealthy haiden is faster than a healthy coop. For fuck sake dude is a consistent top 6 450 guy

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9/27/2025 1:10pm

The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.

I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning every race for the next 6-7 years and I can see you all whine and cry every Saturday night. 

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9/27/2025 1:12pm
Dan541 wrote:
I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the...

I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the best 250 rider, hands down. And if he can perform, he's the best bet.

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and...

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.

He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and nail. I doubt a unhealthy haiden is faster than a healthy coop. For fuck sake dude is a consistent top 6 450 guy

Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. 

Where he was on a complete different level of everyone.

Sorry, but Coop isn’t Deegz. By a long shot.
 

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9/27/2025 1:31pm
ZinAZ wrote:
I'm guessing the jcoop votes have nothing to do with winning mxon and putting our best foot forward and everything to do with the menstrual cramps...

I'm guessing the jcoop votes have nothing to do with winning mxon and putting our best foot forward and everything to do with the menstrual cramps the name deegan seems to induce in a lot of vital posters😂

Can you support the guy without misogyny?

ZinAZ wrote:
 misogyny definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women......my contempt, dislike, and prejudice is against idiots who want the country to do worse because...

 

misogyny definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women......my contempt, dislike, and prejudice is against idiots who want the country to do worse because they dont like the best riders personality...nothing to do with woman... go white knight somewhere else.

 

Oh, you were talking about men’s menstrual cramps? Look man, it’s easy to make pointed comments without resorting to tired tropes. Try it.

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9/27/2025 1:59pm
shortty761 wrote:
The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning...

The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.

I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning every race for the next 6-7 years and I can see you all whine and cry every Saturday night. 

Next year,you will send a C-team to europe!Where was Deegz the last 2 years?Outside the US,no interest to send the best team,only excuses.

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9/27/2025 3:08pm
Dan541 wrote:
I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the...

I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the best 250 rider, hands down. And if he can perform, he's the best bet.

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and...

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.

He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and nail. I doubt a unhealthy haiden is faster than a healthy coop. For fuck sake dude is a consistent top 6 450 guy

I remember how fast he was. But. His biggest weakness, was not being able to come through the pack. If he started up front, he could run with the best of em, but if he got a mid pack start, he was usually mid pack finish, he couldn't really move up. He is now going up against 450s on a start, so less likely to move through the pack than Deegan, assuming he is physically good to go.

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9/27/2025 3:31pm

So I read most of this and then had a few more beers. You guys that want coop are , for lack of a better word living in la la land. Get over yourself . Degan messed up last weekend . We all know that but he will give everything speed wise to to good . 

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9/27/2025 3:56pm
GBS wrote:
If Deegan is will to go with just having surgery, he is on a mission and will give his best and thats what we need to...

If Deegan is will to go with just having surgery, he is on a mission and will give his best and thats what we need to win.

He’s on a mission to get good pr. 

  How long are you going to stay but hurt? 

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9/27/2025 5:55pm

Can you support the guy without misogyny?

ZinAZ wrote:
 misogyny definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women......my contempt, dislike, and prejudice is against idiots who want the country to do worse because...

 

misogyny definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women......my contempt, dislike, and prejudice is against idiots who want the country to do worse because they dont like the best riders personality...nothing to do with woman... go white knight somewhere else.

 

Oh, you were talking about men’s menstrual cramps? Look man, it’s easy to make pointed comments without resorting to tired tropes. Try it.

repeal the 19th amendment

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9/27/2025 6:59pm
GBS wrote:
If Deegan is will to go with just having surgery, he is on a mission and will give his best and thats what we need to...

If Deegan is will to go with just having surgery, he is on a mission and will give his best and thats what we need to win.

Bad take

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9/27/2025 7:12pm
ZinAZ wrote:
 misogyny definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women......my contempt, dislike, and prejudice is against idiots who want the country to do worse because...

 

misogyny definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women......my contempt, dislike, and prejudice is against idiots who want the country to do worse because they dont like the best riders personality...nothing to do with woman... go white knight somewhere else.

 

Oh, you were talking about men’s menstrual cramps? Look man, it’s easy to make pointed comments without resorting to tired tropes. Try it.

ZinAZ wrote:

repeal the 19th amendment

Just stop being obtuse.

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9/27/2025 8:43pm
Dan541 wrote:
I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the...

I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the best 250 rider, hands down. And if he can perform, he's the best bet.

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and...

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.

He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and nail. I doubt a unhealthy haiden is faster than a healthy coop. For fuck sake dude is a consistent top 6 450 guy

shortty761 wrote:
Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. Where he was on a complete different level of...

Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. 

Where he was on a complete different level of everyone.

Sorry, but Coop isn’t Deegz. By a long shot.
 

I can remember the 2022 MXdN at Redbud(!). 

He finished 4th overall on a 250 in the 2nd moto. I was there and it was an epic ride by him. I’ll never forget that. 

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9/27/2025 8:56pm
shortty761 wrote:
The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning...

The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.

I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning every race for the next 6-7 years and I can see you all whine and cry every Saturday night. 

😂 wht happen to u taking a break 

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9/27/2025 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 9/27/2025 9:22pm
People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and...

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.

He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and nail. I doubt a unhealthy haiden is faster than a healthy coop. For fuck sake dude is a consistent top 6 450 guy

shortty761 wrote:
Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. Where he was on a complete different level of...

Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. 

Where he was on a complete different level of everyone.

Sorry, but Coop isn’t Deegz. By a long shot.
 

OleTex2 wrote:
I can remember the 2022 MXdN at Redbud(!). He finished 4th overall on a 250 in the 2nd moto. I was there and it was an epic...

I can remember the 2022 MXdN at Redbud(!). 

He finished 4th overall on a 250 in the 2nd moto. I was there and it was an epic ride by him. I’ll never forget that. 

Yep, 9-4 and P1 MX2.  Destroyed the field.  He’s better today than he was then.

His one issue is, he’s not a great passer.  Although better now than he was.  But he’s also a more reliable starter.

Problem with Deegan is we don’t know how his collar bone is going to be in the heat of battle.  I sincerely hope he scores lower than 13, but I wouldn’t put money on it.

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9/27/2025 9:31pm
shortty761 wrote:
The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning...

The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.

I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning every race for the next 6-7 years and I can see you all whine and cry every Saturday night. 

"I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning every race for the next 6-7 years"

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9/28/2025 1:06pm
shortty761 wrote:
The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning...

The amount of you that would rather your country lose than Deegz race for team USA is sad.

I can’t wait till he’s in 450 class winning every race for the next 6-7 years and I can see you all whine and cry every Saturday night. 

You must think Sexton and the Lawrence brothers are 37 and 38 years old or something.

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pummel wrote:

Who would you send?

Since you asked:

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I’m positive there’s lads on the other side of the pond rubbing their hands together hoping Deegler shows up, only to take him out… knowing he’s fairly fresh off surgery, and aware the latest “antics”…. Hot take?

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9/28/2025 5:26pm

How many new accounts has Brian setup this week?

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9/28/2025 5:46pm

What if things were turned around and Deegan was told he would be the backup rider? Do you think he would handle it the same way Justin has? 

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9/28/2025 6:26pm
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What if things were turned around and Deegan was told he would be the backup rider? Do you think he would handle it the same way...

What if things were turned around and Deegan was told he would be the backup rider? Do you think he would handle it the same way Justin has? 

No. 

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pummel wrote:

Who would you send?

Since you asked: 

Since you asked:

555895668 122188021742374904 3452108647755814963 n 0



 

I’d send Coop.  I just don’t see Hayden being as good as he needs to be and even if he’s not he’ll probably go anyway. He’ll be a fragile target and might ruin his season for next year. 

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RJ showing some class:

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Deegs takes out half the field out on his way to the front! 

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So, are they doing the comparison test today, or was that just a bad rumor?

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Cooper has shown he can handle the pressure. Deegan has shown that if he is behind he over rides, or if someone messes with he he cracks. This race is a pressure cooker, Cooper will ride for the team, Deegan will ride for himself. Plus I still think those that are willing to go when its overseas should get picked 1st.

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9/29/2025 1:40pm
Dan541 wrote:
I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the...

I'd love to see Jcoop go, but you kind of have to send Deegan. If you keep personal opinions out, an dlook objectively, he is the best 250 rider, hands down. And if he can perform, he's the best bet.

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and...

People forget how damn fast coop is on a 250.

He was a consistent title threat and winner. Battled with jett and hunter and others tooth and nail. I doubt a unhealthy haiden is faster than a healthy coop. For fuck sake dude is a consistent top 6 450 guy

shortty761 wrote:
Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. Where he was on a complete different level of...

Coop was fast sure, but there isn’t one race anyone can think of where he did anything special. 

Where he was on a complete different level of everyone.

Sorry, but Coop isn’t Deegz. By a long shot.
 

Dude you're either young, new to the sport, a deegan nut rider or smoking a big ole Crack rock. 

As someone whos a fan of every guy who can do this professionally even Vince friese. As someone whos gotten to hang out with the general himself and a few of those guys a few times. Has gotten to be around teams including Star.

Haidens a bad choice with a broken collar. He is not faster and if he is he is, not significantly faster than Coop especially with a fucked up shoulder. Coop battling tooth and nail with the guys battling it out for titles in the 450 class today and at the time battling with those same guys in the 250 class is fuckin hard and he's done it for YEARS. Hes battled these guys at midnight already. His not being able to come through the pack lable is misleading. He has the speed and has come throught the pack quite  well. Most the times he had rough times coming through the pack was with an injury or after a real bad crash that day. 

Not only that, Haiden is a target on his back rider just like Vince friese is. Think Aleesi vs Josh Grant when injured. Belive me when I tell you with a fucked up shoulder he's not pulling away from these guys at a track like ironman. Not only that these guys are gonna run it in on him, bump him, fluster him, work him over to get a reaction and throw him off his game. He can't afford to do what he did at SMX and get into a stupid battle with SX coming up unless hes going east sx. All while having an entire class of 450 and 250 world, national champions and the rest of the top 20 riders of the 450 world on the same gate.

I would be more pro haiden if this was next year and he had a awesome first year in 450mx because at least he doesn't have the handicap of being on a 250 and dealing with  450's. Thers a lot they could do to the bike to help his shoulder issue while not being at a power disadvantage vs other 450s.

I hope he does great and proves me wrong. But the odds are not in his favor. It feels like a bussines decision and not a racing decision.

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Going to be hard to carry a nation on your shoulders when one has just been plated 😳

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