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OK, help me off of the ledge here. I know HD38 likes to talk trash at times, he has gained and lost fans that way. BUT, I am struggling to see where he rides like Barcia and deserving to get punted. I know he got rough with Cole once going for the SX championship, but other than that, I can't recall him being the king of take-out passes to be deserving of being sent into the cheap seats. 🤷 He has had a pretty clean season... Like him or not, but I see that is how I see it.
Has deegan smoked kitchen like that before?
you forgot him taking out cole
What if I told you there was an easy way to avoid animosity? All you have to do is not be a piece of shit to your competition, your fans and your target audience. You guys have this comically large blindspot to the also comically large laundry list of reasons for people to not like Deegan, yet you're the first ones to bring up 'principals' when it doesn't go in his favour. Get the fuck out of here with that garbage.
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Didn't Davies admit he knew deegan was there, and should have changed up his line? He also owned up to having a lead, and losing it.
Idk man, it seems like his fans forget the Smith, juju, Coty, Chance, Hunter, Seth, Tom, and the list goes on. Anytime he passed Max A he made sure to ride him hard. The way he was talking to Shimoda the other week and pretty much how he treats EVERY guy on the gate. WE LITERALLY CELEBRATE AND GIVE HIM PROPS WHEN HE ACTS NORMAL. Thats not normal. He deserved to get punted years ago. Im glad someone finally stepped up and did it when it matters. Maybe more of these guys will quit putting up with his shit. If he wants to act hard and like a dick he better be able to take it. Again, its mind blowing his fans forget this stuff and brush it off then get mad when one thing happens to him.
I guess I am trying to draw a level of doucheness on a chart here. Off of the track, we know he is at the top of the chart, he loves that though. On the track, I don't think he is nearly as high on the chart as many notables is all. He can and does pass people all the time without hitting them. He also doesn't ride like Alessi (or even Barcia) after someone passes him. For people to be so happy to see someone who clearly is not as fast as him, wasn't going to beat him, take him out and possibly ruin a high $ championship, is bizarre to me. If Jo had done it, things would have at least made a little more sense.
I agree that Haiden seems to have taken it in stride. Too bad we don't have some media in this sport capable of asking and reporting it to us.
You know he didn't mean that, right?
He did what a smart man does when he has no recourse. Bottles it up. Says its ok out loud. And puts in the memory bank for fuel later.
The opposite is whine like a baby, say it's not fair, and be a victim. Thats not the move. No matter what TikTok has taught you through infinite examples.
I think it's all an act. He is probably thinking to himself right now that he can't believe he's all but out of the class before someone lost their shit and did what Kitchen did. I'll bet Haiden says almost nothing the rest of his 250 days, wins most of the races he's in and focuses on his new job in the big leagues. And before anyone starts with the drivel about how they won't put up with his behavior I'm willing to bet we see a whole new side of him. I believe that he believes he can win 450 races even against Jett Lawrence.
I think part of it is an act. The classless part isn't an act. Going to Seth's trailer. Throwing tantrums and giving people the finger. Whose bike was it he picked up and threw down the other way in the first turn? All I have to say is hopefully he realizes that his actions is what caused this. If not he can suck it.
I'll meet you in the middle and agree that he has been very immature at times. I still see a problem and always have seen a problem in our sport when comes to an obvious action no matter what the circumstances. I've been a Barcia fan forever but I have cringed and agreed when he did something ridiculous. Haiden being an ass at times or anybody for for that matter shouldn't give you license to do what Levi did without repercussions. I don't agree with it in any circumstance including last lap battles. It's something that leaves us teetering on being pro wrestling rather than legit racing.
I'm not a fan of Deegan's antics by any means. I thought I'd heard he'd helped one of the injured riders with a jet ride home though. I thought I'd also heard when a bunch of flights had gotten canceled a few years ago he'd helped some of his competitors get to the race as well. If anyone knows the details please share. He may be less of a douche than his WWE persona. I don't know one way or the other.
Deegan doesn't have a tenth of the front-ends that Barcia has sawed off. I remember the Davies incident and was fired up about it, but Davies had spun coming out of the corner before and Haiden had him; Davies should have backed off but it's now a lesson learned. The Kitchen move was more extreme than anything Deegan has done this year, but I'm not prepared to hate on that either. If Kitchen hadn't tried to get Deegan immediately, Deegan would have rode away from him. Kitchen just came in too hot and took himself out too.
Well, I'm a grown man so tiktok isn't in my purview. Now we'll make it more matter of fact. He lost a sizeable lead, and a title was on the horizon so it was a poor line choice.
139 downvotes, possible new record. Get this guy a plaque ml
Assuming anyone on Vital watches TikTok was his first mistake. Letting on he watches it was his second
Yep. But RC was challenging for wins. Just sayin 😎
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Havent seen much acknowledgement how mature Deegz has been about this. No complaining, no kicking over the other dudes bike or storming his pit. Seems like he knows what comes with the territory of the way he races
This is what I mean by we complement him for acting normal. Im sure multiple people had talks with him. He didn't seem happy coming off the track but honestly what does he expect? I was in disbelief that no one did this to him earlier.
Matured? Naah! He keeps entitled, thinking he's the only one who deserves to ride like that. The only thing this time is that his mechanic didn't put fuel on the fire but calmed him down. Duffy was probably thinking about his bonus and "what if" he does something that cost him penalty points.
Kitchen racing donkey hard was the best part of the whole racing event.
I did not see Chase try to take out Webb for the SX title this season?
I did not see Hunter try to take out Jett for the SMX ”title” last year?
I did not see Chase try to take out Eli for the 22 MX title?
I did not see Eli try to take out Dungey for the -17 SX title?
The old days you are frothing over are long gone by now…
What’s your deal dude? Have you ever competed in anything in your entire miserable life? Being pissed off a race went poorly is immature? People like you single handedly make this forum so insufferable.
If Deegs hadn't of been such a douchenut for the past however long, he could've gone over to Kitchen after practice, said "Hey bro, soz n all, but cole moved over on me, I shut off, but still had nowhere to go. Soz ya back got a lil booboo and Max's elbow got a big booboo, but out of my control unfortunately"
But bridges long since burned, thru dumbarsery shut down that option being a viable one, and it's doesn't seem like it's in his personality.
He broke his neck in Daytona this year and was well on his way to a regional SX title in 24 until Mcadoo took him out in Nashville. Funny how quickly people forget and/or dont realize how serious an injury like breaking your neck is
Nobody has stated Kitchen hasn't been injured. The 250/125 class is littered with also rans and could haves that have had injury riddled careers. All just waiting for that one season "where it all comes together". Kitchen just signed for another two years with PC? Two more years in the 250 class? Is he beating Shimoda next year? Or even Davies, Hymas, Anstie, Beaumer, or Marchbanks next year? There is a lot of fast kids coming up, Euros coming over as well. Kitchen should worry about Kitchen's career not Deegan. That is my opinion anyway, perhaps it was wise to throw away a result in a race to punt another rider you have an axe to grind with, especially after recovering from a broken neck, I don't think so though.
Dude, you have issues apparently.
Antonovich left the race early to try and catch Deegan or Levi after the race. He was not there in a "media capacity" and left his family in the stands.
Swap Moto interviewed Mitch and it was awesome.
Levi posted on IG he was going for it with all the money on the line and was DGAF.
Pulp had Levi Kitchen and Ezra Lusk and Kitchen was super clear and open on the issue. Even Roczen was asked about it on the show.
Levi was not available and nor was Deegan to any media. Neither made the podium so they were not in the PC.
What else do you want?
Yes, when Cole got hurt, the deegan/Haiden got him a PJ to fly to Colorado for surgery. Last year before waashougal was the outage that effected airports, they got a PJ for double the price, but they allowed Ricky, Jalek Swoll and Scuba Steve to go with them.
No issues, I just got really wound up about it obviously. Levi looked foolish to me. It robbed us of watching a potential battle between Jo and Haiden as well. I was all about this series the first year. It was awesome racing with awesome venues. Last year seemed like a letdown from that and the first two races of this the third year have stunk imho and that debacle was like icing on the cake for me. Might as well be called AverageMediorcrecross at this point. Yes, I think the media is lame and the sport needs to recognize how luke warm the reporting is. I also admit to being a Haiden fan (again obviously) and the hate in here for a kid that has breathed life into things the last couple of years baffles me. Do Vitards want everyone to be polite, corporate shills that speak in dulcet tones about their competitors or do they want some controversy and rivalries? This community is so fickle it baffles me sometimes
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