Jorge Prado "It was a very tough season to say the least. Cruising around every single race..."

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8/25/2025 9:58am

There is zero chance we see Prado on a Kawasaki at SMX if that guy is actually the Kawi engine builder. No.Way.

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8/25/2025 9:58am
No, he completely gives up after he gets passed by a few people. Other than that he was doing well the first 10 Mins of every...

No, he completely gives up after he gets passed by a few people. Other than that he was doing well the first 10 Mins of every race this season. Its like he lacks the endurance after the first half.

If your not comfortable on a bike then you tense up, get arm pump & throw the anchor.

You guys are over thinking this. 

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8/25/2025 10:07am
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I had him as a consistent 4-6 guy. He finished 6th in the standings, but he certainly wasn't a 4-6 guy. I knew he was going...

I had him as a consistent 4-6 guy. He finished 6th in the standings, but he certainly wasn't a 4-6 guy. I knew he was going to have some difficulty to adapt because there were a lot of changes, but I don't think anyone had him struggling this bad. 

It's going to be interesting to see if he improves on the KTM or if things more or less stay the same. IMO, if he improves he'll save face, and if nothing changes, his reputation will tank completely. 

Same here with 4th-6th prediction.  Few speculated that Justin Cooper and RJ Hampshire would be riding as well as they have.  It was a bummer to not have K Roc and lose Chase at Round 1, as well as AP7 later.  While I appreciate Cooper Webb's tenacity, he's never consistently been a top 5 guy outdoors.  Therefore, Prado's 6th O/A is really kind of gifted in a way as CS1, KR94 and AP7 are better & would have finished ahead of Prado. So that 6th O/A looks good on paper, but he really was a 9th - 11th place racer. 

I think Prado's reputation and likability have already tanked beyond repair. If K ROC can come off the couch after missing 9 rounds and still beat Prado easily in Moto 1 before being forced to leave Moto 2 because of pain, says a lot about Kenny's heart and character versus Prado's lack there of.  

I think the lack of actually qualifying at Budds was a major dis and slap in the face to all members of Team Kawasaki working to appease a rider that showed little to no fight each time he was passed, yet complained of bike issues.  I think a lot of it is just in his head.  There's one guy I know of on Kawasaki that battled a potentially terminal illness to come back to the team!! That's heart and character right there. Some things Prado obviously lacks.

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8/25/2025 10:21am
The difference is that Marquez went out and rode the bike to his abilities and the bike couldn't handle it. At no point did Prado push...

The difference is that Marquez went out and rode the bike to his abilities and the bike couldn't handle it. At no point did Prado push the bike and instead backed it way down. He was running slower times than the Kawi test rider trying to help him. And by a long shot as well. Tickle had no problems pushing the bike 4 seconds harder and he has never been considered one of "The Fastest In The World" at any time. Good riders blame the bike, great riders find a way.

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He lead a race for 15min, hes qualified within same sec as Jett and Huntet. At what planet is that not pushing the bike? He should...

He lead a race for 15min, hes qualified within same sec as Jett and Huntet. At what planet is that not pushing the bike? He should have pushed it to be a few seconds faster than Jett? Or risk crashing pushing the whole race?

I didn't see Tickle in the race pushing the bike 4 sec faster than Prado, because if he did he would have probably been on the podium and won races every weekend.

 

His words not mine. He literally said he didn't push. I am just taking him at his word. Do you think he lied amd is actually...

His words not mine. He literally said he didn't push. I am just taking him at his word. Do you think he lied amd is actually giving maximum effort instead of the "cruising" he speaks of? 

He visibly lacked effort in outdoors. Especially after getting passed by guys like Guillod. At Unadilla he got passed and instead of trying to fight he just looks back to see who is coming next and sits down. He didnt battle regardless of how you look at it. I would rather see guys like Friese that try their hearts out to get and keep positions then to watch what we saw out of Prado this summer.

Some good, strong points. The only thing though is VF Friese was and is a negligible track hazard. Think San Diego Supercross 2025.  Despite blue flags, he directly interfered with the 2 race leaders, ET3 & JL1. And VF is a cross jumper.  But at least he does fight/battle albeit foolishly...Glendale SX 250s he took himself & CC28 out. 

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8/25/2025 10:29am

I never want to hear the term Conquistador again. More like ConQuitsador am I right

That's a good one.

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8/25/2025 10:51am
No, he completely gives up after he gets passed by a few people. Other than that he was doing well the first 10 Mins of every...

No, he completely gives up after he gets passed by a few people. Other than that he was doing well the first 10 Mins of every race this season. Its like he lacks the endurance after the first half.

If your not comfortable on a bike then you tense up, get arm pump & throw the anchor.

You guys are over thinking this. 

Over thinking....what's there to over think the guy comes off as a Prima Donna trashing his team...he has yet to complain about arm pump only complains about the bike and team...and is trying to get fired...time for George to head back to land of shit tracks and 20 rider gates...

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8/25/2025 11:19am
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He lead a race for 15min, hes qualified within same sec as Jett and Huntet. At what planet is that not pushing the bike? He should...

He lead a race for 15min, hes qualified within same sec as Jett and Huntet. At what planet is that not pushing the bike? He should have pushed it to be a few seconds faster than Jett? Or risk crashing pushing the whole race?

I didn't see Tickle in the race pushing the bike 4 sec faster than Prado, because if he did he would have probably been on the podium and won races every weekend.

 

His words not mine. He literally said he didn't push. I am just taking him at his word. Do you think he lied amd is actually...

His words not mine. He literally said he didn't push. I am just taking him at his word. Do you think he lied amd is actually giving maximum effort instead of the "cruising" he speaks of? 

He visibly lacked effort in outdoors. Especially after getting passed by guys like Guillod. At Unadilla he got passed and instead of trying to fight he just looks back to see who is coming next and sits down. He didnt battle regardless of how you look at it. I would rather see guys like Friese that try their hearts out to get and keep positions then to watch what we saw out of Prado this summer.

Some good, strong points. The only thing though is VF Friese was and is a negligible track hazard. Think San Diego Supercross 2025.  Despite blue flags...

Some good, strong points. The only thing though is VF Friese was and is a negligible track hazard. Think San Diego Supercross 2025.  Despite blue flags, he directly interfered with the 2 race leaders, ET3 & JL1. And VF is a cross jumper.  But at least he does fight/battle albeit foolishly...Glendale SX 250s he took himself & CC28 out. 

I 100% agree with you on his dangerous behavior history. I was merely speaking in terms of effort, and he was at the opposite end of the spectrum from Prado.

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8/25/2025 11:37am
Who can factory Kaw borrow from PC and put on that bike for the three rounds? Have to race in from the LCQ.
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8/25/2025 11:52am

if i couldn't get my money back, i would force prado there again next year and roll with sexton. ruin this kids career with another year of him being a prima donna. force him to ride out the contract. 

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8/25/2025 11:53am

I can’t wait until Sexton wins on that bike to prove this dude is full of shit. I was super excited to see him race the outdoors here, but this has been  an absolute disgrace to the team the fans and Kawasaki.

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8/25/2025 11:54am

Please send this guy back to the gp’s was a huge fan and was so excited he was coming over he cries like a baby gives up and just flat out isn’t a top 5 guy here go back home and dominate the small pond Jorge 

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8/25/2025 11:56am

FWIW.. that "Dirtbikelover" just posts shit without any actual credible sources or confirmations. I'm almost certain whoever runs that page just listens to podcasts, cherry picks headlines and makes a post to get views. Not like anyone is going to stop it.. there's near zero moderation of this type of content on social media. 

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8/25/2025 11:59am

Prado to KTM means Tomac will go to Kawasaki with Sexton?

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8/25/2025 12:01pm
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Prado to KTM means Tomac will go to Kawasaki with Sexton?

Latest scuttlebutt is Eli may not be done at Star after all…

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8/25/2025 12:03pm
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Prado to KTM means Tomac will go to Kawasaki with Sexton?

Latest scuttlebutt is Eli may not be done at Star after all…

So Tomac could do SX with Star before Deegan moves 450 outdoors?

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8/25/2025 12:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 12:20pm

… no one from KMC USA or KTM USA is making any official statements about any rider under contract as far as I know. 

To do so could expose them to possible legal action from each other or the contracted rider.  

I’m no lawyer, but from the little I know about rider contracts, Prado disparaging his team bike on his own IG page may cost him.

 It’s my opinion that riders at this level should not manage their own social media accounts- an emotional Jorge putting that up was a huge mistake IMO. 

To that end, whomever manages Jorge should have handled this situation in a more professional manner. 

Does anyone know who his USA management is? I sure hope it’s not family…

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8/25/2025 12:16pm
Brent wrote:
… no one from KMC USA or KTM USA is making any official statements about any rider under contract as far as I know. To do so...

… no one from KMC USA or KTM USA is making any official statements about any rider under contract as far as I know. 

To do so could expose them to possible legal action from each other or the contracted rider.  

I’m no lawyer, but from the little I know about rider contracts, Prado disparaging his team bike on his own IG page may cost him.

 It’s my opinion that riders at this level should not manage their own social media accounts- an emotional Jorge putting that up was a huge mistake IMO. 

To that end, whomever manages Jorge should have handled this situation in a more professional manner. 

Does anyone know who his USA management is? I sure hope it’s not family…

Not sure if something changed recently but at least until last year his manager was Oscar Lanza

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8/25/2025 12:21pm
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American fans LOVE to pile on foreigners the moment there's a hint of trouble or issue etc etc. I'm in the minority here but I get what...

American fans LOVE to pile on foreigners the moment there's a hint of trouble or issue etc etc. 

I'm in the minority here but I get what he's trying to say. He's been on a certain brand and style of bike his entire career, and the Kawi is just so completely different that he couldn't gel with it and him and that bike just don't go together. I hope he goes back to KTM next year and does well, I feel he's still yet to show his potential in the States. I typically root for foreigners in the US series and I hope he turns it around.

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We Americans can spot a bullshit artist from a mile away….some humility and ownership would have went a long way….how about “ I lost confidence and...

We Americans can spot a bullshit artist from a mile away….some humility and ownership would have went a long way….how about “ I lost confidence and need to work harder for next year” ….We Americans also love a comeback and underdogs…….I don’t believe the bike issue one bit…these bikes are all the same just different colors……Canadian bro…..if you can’t stick handle and rag the puck, do you blame the stick? ….now put some Rush on tuner and have a molsen….

I'm Australian, son. You know, the little nation that produced the rider currently whooping all the cute Americans in your US series. And you just proved my point, any hint of trouble, argument etc and American fans jump on it. 

You're out of depth here mate. Truth is only Prado and Kawi really know what went on, everything else is just speculation. I think he'll turn it around on a different bike, but hey I'm only speculating... Don't burn some flags because of it sweetheart 💋 

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8/25/2025 12:21pm

I expect to see a Press Release within the next 11 days about the split. I can't see Kawasaki wanting to stick with him for any more time after this year and now that post. Call it quits and move on. Throw Harrison on the bike for SMX. At least the guy will appreciate the ride and give it his all.

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8/25/2025 12:22pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 12:27pm

There has to be a clause in the contract about actions detrimental to the brand that Kawi can invoke on this. Trying not to qualify at the last race and this post is stepping over a line that shouldn't be crossed by someone getting paid very well to represent them.

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8/25/2025 12:23pm
Brent wrote:
… no one from KMC USA or KTM USA is making any official statements about any rider under contract as far as I know. To do so...

… no one from KMC USA or KTM USA is making any official statements about any rider under contract as far as I know. 

To do so could expose them to possible legal action from each other or the contracted rider.  

I’m no lawyer, but from the little I know about rider contracts, Prado disparaging his team bike on his own IG page may cost him.

 It’s my opinion that riders at this level should not manage their own social media accounts- an emotional Jorge putting that up was a huge mistake IMO. 

To that end, whomever manages Jorge should have handled this situation in a more professional manner. 

Does anyone know who his USA management is? I sure hope it’s not family…

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Not sure if something changed recently but at least until last year his manager was Oscar Lanza

He's still "managed" by Oscar Lanza, not know in the AMA pits, but as everyone who is around Prado that is from Spain, is a yes-man that agrees with everything Jorge says and does, no wonder why he's acting so entiled. If he wants to find success across the pond, he should start by surrounding himself that people that see him as a rider and not like a god like everyone does here in Spain.

 

Just read every spanish Mx media outlet and try to find anything about Prado, surprise, nobody is talking about him, they don't want to be in the Prado Blacklist.

 

This Situation is big enough that Spain doesn't have a MXdN yet thanks to Jorge.

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8/25/2025 12:28pm
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There is zero chance we see Prado on a Kawasaki at SMX if that guy is actually the Kawi engine builder. No.Way.

Kawasaki will probably force his hand and make him be the one that breaks the contract so he can take the bill for it.

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8/25/2025 12:33pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 12:34pm
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He's still "managed" by Oscar Lanza, not know in the AMA pits, but as everyone who is around Prado that is from Spain, is a yes-man...

He's still "managed" by Oscar Lanza, not know in the AMA pits, but as everyone who is around Prado that is from Spain, is a yes-man that agrees with everything Jorge says and does, no wonder why he's acting so entiled. If he wants to find success across the pond, he should start by surrounding himself that people that see him as a rider and not like a god like everyone does here in Spain.

 

Just read every spanish Mx media outlet and try to find anything about Prado, surprise, nobody is talking about him, they don't want to be in the Prado Blacklist.

 

This Situation is big enough that Spain doesn't have a MXdN yet thanks to Jorge.

…I’ve never heard of Oscar Lanza, but whom ever he is, he is doing his client a major disservice by not advising him about how the rider -fan-team  dynamic in AMA motocross works.

IMO if Prado returns for a second season of AMA, he needs to hire a professional media team like Wasserman  or someone else experienced in USA moto, as I’m sure he has burned some bridges both with an OEM and possibly his other personal sponsors so far with his conduct.

I really like the kid, I hope the backlash from his social media posts  and poor on track results wake him the fuck up.

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8/25/2025 12:39pm
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What exactly should he be saying to show accountability? If he doesn’t feel safe on the bike what’s he supposed to do? Go out there and...

What exactly should he be saying to show accountability? If he doesn’t feel safe on the bike what’s he supposed to do? Go out there and yard himself?

How about

 “yeah I didn’t realize how different it is to not have the team be able to completely tailor a chassis and motor to my liking since the Americans actually have rules here. I didn’t realize that I have no idea how to adapt to a different bike and ride at any level outside my princess comfort zone. I also didn’t realize how scary American tracks are where they get groomed and they actually race at speed instead of just trying to survive garbage sand tracks where you cannot actually go fast. Additionally, I had no idea that you Yanks (and Aussies) can actually ride in heat and humidity and we have to do it all summer long.”   

I guess he could start with that. 

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8/25/2025 12:43pm
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I'm Australian, son. You know, the little nation that produced the rider currently whooping all the cute Americans in your US series. And you just proved...

I'm Australian, son. You know, the little nation that produced the rider currently whooping all the cute Americans in your US series. And you just proved my point, any hint of trouble, argument etc and American fans jump on it. 

You're out of depth here mate. Truth is only Prado and Kawi really know what went on, everything else is just speculation. I think he'll turn it around on a different bike, but hey I'm only speculating... Don't burn some flags because of it sweetheart 💋 

How do you think it would go over if an American pulled this behavior in another country? You think the fans would be all over the American rider? You can bet your Aussie cunt ass they would be….I was excited to have Prado come race our series, the more world class riders the better for the USA….Yes, your little country has produced the current top rider, but he is not riding your series is he? How my doing grampa?

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8/25/2025 12:52pm

I believe him when he says it’s the bike, (we all know the bike is fine) but if he thinks it’s off then in his mind it is.  I picture him racing around like Cole Trickle in “Days of Thunder”.

The best thing for him right now is to get on a different brand.   

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8/25/2025 12:58pm
I believe him when he says it’s the bike, (we all know the bike is fine) but if he thinks it’s off then in his mind...

I believe him when he says it’s the bike, (we all know the bike is fine) but if he thinks it’s off then in his mind it is.  I picture him racing around like Cole Trickle in “Days of Thunder”.

The best thing for him right now is to get on a different brand.   

I agree.  If he believes that the bike is gonna kill him if he tries to push...then it doesn't matter what others can do with that machine.  

Sexton felt that way about the Honda...just maybe not as vocal.  Up at the front... that last 5% is between the ears for all those guys.  Every brand is capable of winning...with a rider that's digging it.

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8/25/2025 1:24pm
tek14 wrote:

Prado to KTM means Tomac will go to Kawasaki with Sexton?

Latest scuttlebutt is Eli may not be done at Star after all…

And this would be coming from where?

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8/25/2025 1:27pm
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How do you think it would go over if an American pulled this behavior in another country? You think the fans would be all over the...

How do you think it would go over if an American pulled this behavior in another country? You think the fans would be all over the American rider? You can bet your Aussie cunt ass they would be….I was excited to have Prado come race our series, the more world class riders the better for the USA….Yes, your little country has produced the current top rider, but he is not riding your series is he? How my doing grampa?

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