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What are the 125 classes allowed ? It used to be 2mm ovr .
Actually it was in 82, and if memory serves, both sides dropped all the protests against each other after everyone had learned of the accident that sadly claimed the lives of the Suzuki kids that very afternoon.
Random, but the last person on that list: "Wyatt Tedesco." Is he related to Ivan Tedesco, or is it just coincidence that they have the same last name?
Not for the last 15 years or so
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4 this year. One was a 125
No overbores are allowed in any class
Are the protests and outcomes published?
Not published, but one PW was illegal, 2 PWs wete legal, and the 125 was fine as well
Just because some good riders had success in the 50cc class doesn't mean that the 50cc class creates good riders.
What you would really want to do is compare riders who competed in the 50cc class to riders who didn't compete in the 50cc class, to see if participating and/or succeeding at the 50cc level has any correlation with greater success at higher levels.
And that would really only matter if the goal is to determine whether the 50cc class is worthy in creating pro racers.
Wyatt is from Oklahoma, won PW class last year and E Bike this year. 99% sure no relation, but don't know that for a fact.
Some of the 125’s haven’t been OEM steel sleeve and borable since sometime in the later 1970’s. The 1978 KX125 and 250 may have been the very 1st that were electrofusion plated and were not borable. Other manufacturers followed suit not long after that because Electrofusion offered better more efficient cooling than steel sleeves.
The over size OEM was allowed because OEM steel sleeves often received wear damage and could be bored as many as 3-4 over sizes from the OEM so the cylinders could be saved and not thrown in the trash. Wiseco offered a couple more over bore sizes maybe up to 6th over. At one point I ran a bore machine boring cylinders to match pistons.
I know 1 team green racer that always ran in the stock classes and his dad would get to team green early and he would look through all the new cylinders that they had looking for the one with the cleanest ports.
You can't clean up ports in stock classes?
If not, that's BS because you'd be very lucky to find one that matched the drawing.
No because cleaning up the ports is porting and illegal in the stock classes.
Hell at least 1 stock class championship was lost because the rider had changed the color of the grips!
Terrible take…… first off these kids are beginners. At this level , I would guess that most of those parents are out there having a great time with their children/family’s and the children are loving it as well. It’s no different than kids playing baseball, basketball, soccer, baseball . How many of those kids are going to play at a professional level or even college? The majority of parents that have their kids involved in those sports don’t have them out there with dreams of them being a professional athlete. I think it’s really cool that the parents in the PW class or any classes for that matter have their kids outside doing something/ involved in an athletic activity. It’s good for these kids to put the damn phone or pad down ,get outside and do something healthy.
That might be the rule, but knocking big casting boogers off isn't "porting".
No relation
Cool, when does Loretta’s get a Stacyc class? My point is that it’s the amateur nationals, and as you said, these kids are beginners. Beginners don’t belong at a national. Ride/Race at every track they want, just not a national.
or if you want to keep the pdub class, add a 250 beginner class, literally everything you said about the PW class would apply.
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I don’t know if I agree, I watched the video up above a few days ago and those kids all did just fine. I have know Idea, but from the video it looked like it wasn’t a full track. At any rate it was actually pretty dang good racing to watch and I really enjoyed watching it.
🤣 Did you do it with your finger or a “porting dremel tool” to cut away the aluminum?
HAAHAA! Great question!😂
Perfect reminder for this thread, its fun to debate, but this isn't life and death.
It doesn't really matter.
what is flash removal?
I was in that '82 125B moto. It was survival to make a lap! I was one of the lucky ones to ride a pre-pro '83 that year at LL's.
At Ponca the previous week in the 125 Modified Intermediate I placed 3rd overall with a 3-2. Tim Aston won and Todd Campbell took second place. Dave Jordan approached me after my second moto and offered me to ride the pre-production '83 at Loretta's. Talk about being stoked! I didn't do well in the mud fest but the bike was primo! The team of mechanics were badass too. Man that was fun....
(my profile pic is the second turn at Ponca City in the 100 modified class the previous year)
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Eddie Ray went on Pulp to give his side of the story tonight. In my opinion he made himself look even worse. Still feel bad for his kid but no way he was winning without it. He is trying to come off like a good guy. But if what he is saying is true and he wanted to be a good guy he would have come clean right up front that it was a cheater bike and given up the finish.
He thinks he is being cool because he thought the cheater bike was only going to help his son get a Top 10. If he had gotten a Top 10 and gotten away with it that would have been shitty to every kid he beat. I don’t care if the kid is heavier than the others.
Eddie if you’re reading this, just admit you screwed up WITHOUT all the excuses. You screwed up. Take your lumps.
It’s 50cc mini racing yeah who cares
I was waiting for a "Theres a drug ring in mxsports" reference..
Maybe a Doc U Men Tay Shun blast.
That interview was all over the place.
I'm sure the kids that are actually the ones racing care.
Its obvious the parents care with insane things they do.
As a fan of the sport I care and it seems like anyone that clicked on the thread cares. Especially the ones that left a comment.
I care. Cheaters suck!
He also basically admitted he ran the same bike at area and regional so there's at least 1 kid that didn't even get the chance to go....
His entire explanation was dumb and he clearly doesn't care at all that he did it.
I will give Steve and Keefer credit for pushing back on it some.
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