Anybody like your old bike better than a new one!

7/23/2025 9:29am

Do I like my old bike better? Where do I begin?

Sincerely Jorge.

I turned down a new free 91 yz125 . To ride my 87 cr125 that’s how good the 87,s where. 

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7/23/2025 12:28pm

I have switched brands and liked some things of the previous brand before.

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7/23/2025 12:39pm

Do I like my old bike better? Where do I begin?

Sincerely Jorge.

He's the very first person I thought about...

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7/23/2025 1:04pm
TeamGreen wrote:
 My fav’s are 76-78. ALL RDs have a special place in the Street Bike HOF. And for moto…I like the 2019-21 KTM 450 better than the current...

 My fav’s are 76-78. ALL RDs have a special place in the Street Bike HOF. 

And for moto…I like the 2019-21 KTM 450 better than the current stuff. 

You might like my matched pair of 77s then.....

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7/23/2025 4:21pm
wwdiii wrote:
Wanted a button start, sold my YZF and bought a 23 Honda CRF 250R in Sept or Oct or 2022.  That I’ve posted, pissed and moaned...

Wanted a button start, sold my YZF and bought a 23 Honda CRF 250R in Sept or Oct or 2022.  That I’ve posted, pissed and moaned here on the forum more than once.  Even after springs and a few other things I still didn’t like it.  Had a couple of unexpected front end washouts that hurt.  I parked the Honda and bought a 24 Beta 300 RX.

Wanting a good 4 stroke I picked up a left over 24 KX450 end of last year.  Dang green bike is a solid ride.  Race Tech springs for my weight and good to go.

I couldn’t give that dang 23 Honda away.  Decided to instead of letting it gather dust I’d seriously try and do something with it since I couldn’t sell it.  First off I’d lost about 40 pounds.  Ordered spring for my weight loss.  Installed a 23.5 Luxon triple clamp which made all the difference in the world.  With my KX450 being part tractor, when I’d ride my Honda I’d stall every now and then, I’m old and slow!

So I got the bright idea to add a 10 oz flywheel to my Honda which really helped with stalling but also helped with engine braking.  Felt like it was more like my old YZF in the engine braking dept with the 10oz flywheel weight.

Another thing I did on my Honda was move the pegs back and down.  Maybe its just me but I always felt my Honda was front end heavy.  I think this helped, if not it fooled me into thinking it did.

Not saying I don’t like my Beta 300 RX or my 24 KX 450, both are really good.  But with the effort I put into my Honda, which I should have to start with.  I’ve got it working really good.  I prefer to ride it over my Beta or KX.  I’m retired and ride all my bikes, but dang if that Honda’s not a good ride for this old man.  One of the other things I think helped is dropping about 40 pounds.  I don’t think my Honda liked fat guys lol.

Anybody else buy a new bike and ended up liking their old one.  

 

burn1986 wrote:

I actually like the seating position of my 99 YZ as opposed to the newer YZ.

I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home, the suspension was shot. So I swapped over my forks and shock (revalved and resprung for me) so I could go riding the next day. I was sort of surprised by how comfortable the 04 was right off the bat. So I just started riding it as my primary bike from that point forward. I think at some degree, unless you are a top level A class rider, bikes made within the last 20 years are still much more capable than than the majority of us are of pushing them to their limits. This past weekend I raced the 35+ class and I was 2nd to the first corner against 350’s and 450’s and I went 2-2. The older bikes are so good. 

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7/23/2025 4:49pm
I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home...

I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home, the suspension was shot. So I swapped over my forks and shock (revalved and resprung for me) so I could go riding the next day. I was sort of surprised by how comfortable the 04 was right off the bat. So I just started riding it as my primary bike from that point forward. I think at some degree, unless you are a top level A class rider, bikes made within the last 20 years are still much more capable than than the majority of us are of pushing them to their limits. This past weekend I raced the 35+ class and I was 2nd to the first corner against 350’s and 450’s and I went 2-2. The older bikes are so good. 

Well that’s pretty awesome. I like the YZs, even the alum framed (05 on up I think), but I prefer the steel framed. My bike is a little dated but I don’t ride as much lately (babysitting grand baby) so I haven’t seen a need to upgrade yet. Everything works great and it’s fast for a 125.

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7/23/2025 5:08pm

Favorite bikes of all time:

81 Maico 490

86 CR250

05 CR250

Least favorite:

83 KX125

92 RM250

2018 TC250

I couldn't keep the KX and RM in one piece, and I think the Husqvarna frame was made for the heavier 4T motor as it just didn't corner well.  Currently I have a 2006 CR250R and a 2022 CRF450R, both great bikes once you get them dialed in.  Hondas don't come setup well from the factory, they just aren't that great out of the box.  On my 22 it needed a fork revalve, heavier shock spring, and 23.5mm triple clamps. Prior to that it would pitch back and forth like a rocking horse then pitch you on your head. I can't see anyone liking that bike in stock form. On the other hand, Yamaha does a really his job on mappings and suspension right out of the box. 

7/23/2025 5:13pm
wwdiii wrote:
Wanted a button start, sold my YZF and bought a 23 Honda CRF 250R in Sept or Oct or 2022.  That I’ve posted, pissed and moaned...

Wanted a button start, sold my YZF and bought a 23 Honda CRF 250R in Sept or Oct or 2022.  That I’ve posted, pissed and moaned here on the forum more than once.  Even after springs and a few other things I still didn’t like it.  Had a couple of unexpected front end washouts that hurt.  I parked the Honda and bought a 24 Beta 300 RX.

Wanting a good 4 stroke I picked up a left over 24 KX450 end of last year.  Dang green bike is a solid ride.  Race Tech springs for my weight and good to go.

I couldn’t give that dang 23 Honda away.  Decided to instead of letting it gather dust I’d seriously try and do something with it since I couldn’t sell it.  First off I’d lost about 40 pounds.  Ordered spring for my weight loss.  Installed a 23.5 Luxon triple clamp which made all the difference in the world.  With my KX450 being part tractor, when I’d ride my Honda I’d stall every now and then, I’m old and slow!

So I got the bright idea to add a 10 oz flywheel to my Honda which really helped with stalling but also helped with engine braking.  Felt like it was more like my old YZF in the engine braking dept with the 10oz flywheel weight.

Another thing I did on my Honda was move the pegs back and down.  Maybe its just me but I always felt my Honda was front end heavy.  I think this helped, if not it fooled me into thinking it did.

Not saying I don’t like my Beta 300 RX or my 24 KX 450, both are really good.  But with the effort I put into my Honda, which I should have to start with.  I’ve got it working really good.  I prefer to ride it over my Beta or KX.  I’m retired and ride all my bikes, but dang if that Honda’s not a good ride for this old man.  One of the other things I think helped is dropping about 40 pounds.  I don’t think my Honda liked fat guys lol.

Anybody else buy a new bike and ended up liking their old one.  

 

burn1986 wrote:

I actually like the seating position of my 99 YZ as opposed to the newer YZ.

I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home...

I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home, the suspension was shot. So I swapped over my forks and shock (revalved and resprung for me) so I could go riding the next day. I was sort of surprised by how comfortable the 04 was right off the bat. So I just started riding it as my primary bike from that point forward. I think at some degree, unless you are a top level A class rider, bikes made within the last 20 years are still much more capable than than the majority of us are of pushing them to their limits. This past weekend I raced the 35+ class and I was 2nd to the first corner against 350’s and 450’s and I went 2-2. The older bikes are so good. 

Great to hear the 04 yz125 was a Great bike too.  I like the older 2019 cock pit better too.  I,m more comfortable riding my 04 cr125 than walking .  I talked with a suspension co it sounds like I out road the top b vet rider setting.  I did that in 3 rides progressing fast , it’s fun to ride . So I ride faster to hv more fun .  Leaner pilot jet now I hv more snap .  Lookin for 20-50 ft jump off the gate in the 125 class . I beat a Stark off the gate for 50 ft . So yeah I,m feeling good about it . IMG 3747 0.jpeg?VersionId=k

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7/23/2025 5:22pm
burn1986 wrote:

I actually like the seating position of my 99 YZ as opposed to the newer YZ.

I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home...

I bought a 2024 YZ250 and did not like the new rider cockpit. I bought my 04 as a tinker bike. When I got it home, the suspension was shot. So I swapped over my forks and shock (revalved and resprung for me) so I could go riding the next day. I was sort of surprised by how comfortable the 04 was right off the bat. So I just started riding it as my primary bike from that point forward. I think at some degree, unless you are a top level A class rider, bikes made within the last 20 years are still much more capable than than the majority of us are of pushing them to their limits. This past weekend I raced the 35+ class and I was 2nd to the first corner against 350’s and 450’s and I went 2-2. The older bikes are so good. 

Great to hear the 04 yz125 was a Great bike too.  I like the older 2019 cock pit better too.  I,m more comfortable riding my 04...

Great to hear the 04 yz125 was a Great bike too.  I like the older 2019 cock pit better too.  I,m more comfortable riding my 04 cr125 than walking .  I talked with a suspension co it sounds like I out road the top b vet rider setting.  I did that in 3 rides progressing fast , it’s fun to ride . So I ride faster to hv more fun .  Leaner pilot jet now I hv more snap .  Lookin for 20-50 ft jump off the gate in the 125 class . I beat a Stark off the gate for 50 ft . So yeah I,m feeling good about it . IMG 3747 0.jpeg?VersionId=k

PWK Airstriker with a STIC kit gives more power across the entire RPM range and will give it more over-rev. I know the engines are quite a bit different, but it made a big difference on the 05 CR125. 

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7/24/2025 1:10am
Had a 1991 YZ250 that I loved, and traded it for a '93 YZ. Hated it from day one and never got on with it, but...

Had a 1991 YZ250 that I loved, and traded it for a '93 YZ. Hated it from day one and never got on with it, but could never work out why. Just didn't seem to "fit" me.

The '93 was all new that year. I remember the Factory Yamahas looking so sick. I had an '89 RM250 back then and I made the...

The '93 was all new that year. I remember the Factory Yamahas looking so sick. I had an '89 RM250 back then and I made the mistake of riding a ftiends of mines '91 YZ250. It was so much faster, it made my RM feel like a 125. It crushed all my confidence. We wont talk about that there was a guy in my class whupping me on an old KX250. When you're young and immature you blame the bike for you being slow

Those 91/92 YZ's were great bikes that did everything really well. Bulletproof too. That 93 just felt unbalanced as if the seat was too low in the middle, and the power was a bit mellow.

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TDC wrote:
After upgrading my 200SX, I then got a smoking deal on a 22 YZ250F, but 200 power mods had the 250 lacking. Then a good deal...

After upgrading my 200SX, I then got a smoking deal on a 22 YZ250F, but 200 power mods had the 250 lacking. Then a good deal on a well set up 24 300SX. Best bike ever, but it destroyed a cylinder. I rode both the YZ and 200. The 200 just has too much joy, handles good and it brings out aggression. The 300 is easy on my old body, but dang that 2hun is just me and it will do my speed and gap bigger bores with similar level riders.

crusher773 wrote:

I want one of those 200s bad just had to pass one up that was close by.

I can tell you that mine with the '06 chassis is miles better in stability and turning than the previous gen. Same goes with TC Showa and KYB forks. KYB only needs shims for upper triples, Showa needs upper and lower.  

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7/25/2025 9:23pm

Lots of times.

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Prado thinks so

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7/26/2025 7:16am Edited Date/Time 7/26/2025 7:19am

I've only owned 4 bikes over the last 20 some years. I quit racing after 2014. I had a 2003 YZ450, a 2005 YZ450, a 2005 YZ250 smoker and a 2011 YZ450. The smoker was fun, but I didn't stay committed to it when I went back to racing in 2012 after another multi year hiatus. When I got back out there in the 50+ class here in d14 I knew almost instantly I wanted back on a 450. I still had my 2005 so I went back to that and right away started being much more competitive. Then I decided I needed something more current, and I found a used 2011 in the white and red livery (the bike in my avatar) and went through it from stem to stern getting it set up for me and trying to fix the handling. I got it to a pretty good point, but we all know about that chassis. My 2003 YZ450 will always be my favorite. I had the suspension done by my buddy Dave Bowman of Tech Care fame and I had the subtanks on the forks. They worked amazing and were easily adjustable to suit the track and conditions. The motor stock was perfect for a 200lb guy that raced and rode primarily in sand and loam here in mid-Michigan. It was a beast! The thing was stable fast, and I could confidently ride the living hell out of it in the 40+ class. The 2005 was good but the motor was tamed, and I never got the suspension to feel as good on it. I still have the 05 out in my garage waiting for a restoration. If I ever get around to it I might try to convert the motor to the 2003 specs Wink

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7/26/2025 8:17am

Several times over the years:


#1 without a doubt: giving up my totally dialed 96 CR250 for the hype of the 97 when it debuted…worst trade deal ever…

Others:

I liked my 99 and 00 KX250s less than my 98. My 01 was about even with my 98.

I liked every KX450F I had (09, 11, 13, 18) less than my 07 CRF450. 

So far my 21 450 SXF is my favorite bike I’ve had. I do wish the suspension was less finicky but the bright side is that I’ve been able to learn a lot about suspension tuning and bike setup. The bike overall is worlds better than my 18 Kawi.

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