Yamaha raising prices

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Brad460 wrote:

Yamaha has been raising prices nearly every year…2017 450 was $8699 to $9,999 in 2024. I missed the letters each year. 

 

aeffertz wrote:
This is increasing the price of current models. That’s a lot different than a new generation coming out with a higher sticker price than the previous...

This is increasing the price of current models. That’s a lot different than a new generation coming out with a higher sticker price than the previous gen. 

Are they not currently building current models?

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seth505 wrote:

This is the type of thread that outs all the orange guy worshippers.  

Far from my friend

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Fact is our economy is the worst it’s ever been.  Trucking wages are less than 1/2 of 5 yrs ago.  Orders on everything but beer are down.  50k bankruptcies a week in the trucking industry.  I know of salespeople that didn’t get there commission in 4 yrs . Because they can’t hit there quotas.  It’s a matter of time & white collar people will be loosing there jobs in high numbers .  

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6/13/2025 9:33am Edited Date/Time 6/19/2025 11:35am
Brad460 wrote:

Yamaha has been raising prices nearly every year…2017 450 was $8699 to $9,999 in 2024. I missed the letters each year. 

 

aeffertz wrote:
This is increasing the price of current models. That’s a lot different than a new generation coming out with a higher sticker price than the previous...

This is increasing the price of current models. That’s a lot different than a new generation coming out with a higher sticker price than the previous gen. 

kylemenz1 wrote:

Are they not currently building current models?

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. They’ll be more expensive now than when they originally came out even though it’s the same exact product. Meaning the 2025 bikes will now cost more than the earlier 2025 bikes. They’re raising the price of existing orders.

The guy I replied to compared the price of a 2019 YZ450 to a 2024 YZ450 as if that’s similar to this. Now you could have two 2025 YZ450’s on the showroom floor, except one will be more expensive than the other. Has anything happened within the past few months that could explain that?

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6/13/2025 9:55am

That middle sentence is brutal.

 

Basically: If you already placed on order, the price is going up.  And if you cancel the order, we're charging you a cancelation fee.

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Fact is our economy is the worst it’s ever been.  Trucking wages are less than 1/2 of 5 yrs ago.  Orders on everything but beer are...

Fact is our economy is the worst it’s ever been.  Trucking wages are less than 1/2 of 5 yrs ago.  Orders on everything but beer are down.  50k bankruptcies a week in the trucking industry.  I know of salespeople that didn’t get there commission in 4 yrs . Because they can’t hit there quotas.  It’s a matter of time & white collar people will be loosing there jobs in high numbers .  

My apologies for not being more well versed on this, but are the lower trucking wages related to the apparent influx of foreign truck drivers that I've noticed? Meaning, are they driving for less money?

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So Kawasaki has the exact same retail price on their 26 450 as it was in 2025. Are they better at this than Yamaha? Or is it a convenient excuse to raise prices?

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6/13/2025 10:49am
Fact is our economy is the worst it’s ever been.  Trucking wages are less than 1/2 of 5 yrs ago.  Orders on everything but beer are...

Fact is our economy is the worst it’s ever been.  Trucking wages are less than 1/2 of 5 yrs ago.  Orders on everything but beer are down.  50k bankruptcies a week in the trucking industry.  I know of salespeople that didn’t get there commission in 4 yrs . Because they can’t hit there quotas.  It’s a matter of time & white collar people will be loosing there jobs in high numbers .  

SPYGUY wrote:
My apologies for not being more well versed on this, but are the lower trucking wages related to the apparent influx of foreign truck drivers that...

My apologies for not being more well versed on this, but are the lower trucking wages related to the apparent influx of foreign truck drivers that I've noticed? Meaning, are they driving for less money?

That’s a part of it aprox 75% of The industry is ran by Eastern Europeans. Biden hand out 400k to illegals to start a buisness majority of them are bankrupt.  Lack of freight is the #1 no loads. Mega carriers say it’s the worst it’s ever been. Even  Amazon trucks sit for 3 days no work.   5 yrs ago 200 mi radius of Chicago including 4 states could be as high as 700k loads available & no trucks available. To 700k trucks empty & available with 30 loads . It crashed when the c19 hand out money ran out in Feb of 2021.  Senior office workers getting canned to cut cost at w2 co.s. 

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It's not good for anyone.  I wonder what the difference in tariffs are now compared to before as it comes to the Japanese market.  Only plus I see is that maybe I can fetch more for my used bikes in the garage that I was wanting to sell anyway.  

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6/13/2025 11:15am Edited Date/Time 6/13/2025 11:16am
listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better...


listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better vote the right way if you want to keep your job”


Kinda funny in hindsight.


 

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I’d take what Google AI says with a grain of salt and do research before fully believing what it loads lol

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6/13/2025 11:27am
dang472 wrote:
So Kawasaki has the exact same retail price on their 26 450 as it was in 2025. Are they better at this than Yamaha? Or is...

So Kawasaki has the exact same retail price on their 26 450 as it was in 2025. Are they better at this than Yamaha? Or is it a convenient excuse to raise prices?

Kawasaki (and KTM) have severe overstocks in Western markets. In a pure supply-demand scenario, their prices should be drastically reduced.

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It's not good for anyone.  I wonder what the difference in tariffs are now compared to before as it comes to the Japanese market.  Only plus...

It's not good for anyone.  I wonder what the difference in tariffs are now compared to before as it comes to the Japanese market.  Only plus I see is that maybe I can fetch more for my used bikes in the garage that I was wanting to sell anyway.  

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6/13/2025 11:43am
listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better...


listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better vote the right way if you want to keep your job”


Kinda funny in hindsight.


 

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DeuceSW20 wrote:

I’d take what Google AI says with a grain of salt and do research before fully believing what it loads lol

Idk bro…IMG 5125.jpeg?VersionId=OJVPbsaCsm4DWGcSK

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6/13/2025 11:45am Edited Date/Time 6/13/2025 11:46am
listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better...


listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better vote the right way if you want to keep your job”


Kinda funny in hindsight.


 

IMG 3673.png?VersionId=byIFmC7Rmcm3wqTlt7VO
DeuceSW20 wrote:

I’d take what Google AI says with a grain of salt and do research before fully believing what it loads lol

Rickyisms wrote:
Idk bro…

Idk bro…IMG 5125.jpeg?VersionId=OJVPbsaCsm4DWGcSK

Gotta admit: 70th edition is pretty badass. My 1955 YZ500 was a rocketship.

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listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better...


listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better vote the right way if you want to keep your job”


Kinda funny in hindsight.


 

IMG 3673.png?VersionId=byIFmC7Rmcm3wqTlt7VO
DeuceSW20 wrote:

I’d take what Google AI says with a grain of salt and do research before fully believing what it loads lol

Rickyisms wrote:
Idk bro…

Idk bro…IMG 5125.jpeg?VersionId=OJVPbsaCsm4DWGcSK

LMFAO! So that’s why they’re not building a 350!

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They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case, how can they blame tariffs?

Yes, I understand that anything imported AFTER tariffs are imposed would be subject to them and a commensurate price increase would be logical-but current models already imported? Am I missing something here?

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6/13/2025 12:29pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2025 12:30pm
PNWMXer wrote:
They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case...

They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case, how can they blame tariffs?

Yes, I understand that anything imported AFTER tariffs are imposed would be subject to them and a commensurate price increase would be logical-but current models already imported? Am I missing something here?

The letter specifically states the invoice dates effected. Tariffs are based on date of import (shipment/invoice), not date of production.

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6/13/2025 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2025 12:36pm
listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better...


listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better vote the right way if you want to keep your job”


Kinda funny in hindsight.


 

IMG 3673.png?VersionId=byIFmC7Rmcm3wqTlt7VO
DeuceSW20 wrote:

I’d take what Google AI says with a grain of salt and do research before fully believing what it loads lol

I read beyond the google AI search but I’m not here to decipher what dates the articles were published in congruence with what dates trump enacted, redacted and enacted which tariffs.  It’s a cluster fuck and again confuses the consumer allowing the producer a LOT of wiggle room.  Either way here is Yamaha vaguely sighting “prices of production are going up and we’re passing them to the consumer” which is the opposite of what we were “promised” 6 months ago.

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6/13/2025 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2025 12:41pm
KHNC wrote:

Cant the california voters and liberals fix this issue? I mean, they seem to be the smartest people around. 

https://youtu.be/7kd52-gYMis?si=aPT2oL5Q9ioVEsF2

 

idk you seem pretty brilliant, using AI to make a photo of you for a motocross forum to make it look like you actually ride lmao

The moto community is very right wing dominated, the fact this forum is a hive of fucking retard leftists is proof enough none of you clowns ride.

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This is going to eat up some sales for sure and used bikes are going to regain some value.

 

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BobPA wrote:

At least this thread outed the blue haired dumb dumbs.

seth505 wrote:

This is the type of thread that outs all the orange guy worshippers.  

It doesn't matter which one you associate with. There are no choices with the uniparty. 

 

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seth505 wrote:

This is the type of thread that outs all the orange guy worshippers.  

BobPA wrote:

Far from my friend

How is it any different?

I'm always amazed how the Trump worshippers shit talk on Liberals for being blind followers but fail to recognize themselves as being the same thing.

You realize that just because you think Trump is the savior of the world and worship him that it doesn't make the people who disagree with you wrong?

 

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PNWMXer wrote:
They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case...

They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case, how can they blame tariffs?

Yes, I understand that anything imported AFTER tariffs are imposed would be subject to them and a commensurate price increase would be logical-but current models already imported? Am I missing something here?

The letter specifically states the invoice dates effected. Tariffs are based on date of import (shipment/invoice), not date of production.

That was my point. It should be on date of import, but they also refer to 2025 models…would there be any 25 models not yet in the country? I’d think they’d all have been here before the tariffs took effect?

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I agree to an extent. Massive grain mill in the area has thousands of jobs, and had probably 5 or so different mechanical contractor companies who...

I agree to an extent. Massive grain mill in the area has thousands of jobs, and had probably 5 or so different mechanical contractor companies who had a fairly permanent hold on lots of jobs there. They had an agreement between them on what they would cap their wages at and what benefits they would offer, and got the parent company of the mill to agree to a rule that if you quit one contractor, you would not be allowed back on premises working for a different contractor for 90 days, so they could stop people from seeking out pay raises by switching companies so they could keep wages down. I got out of that area and have a much better job now, but EVERYONE can't do that.

Great story profeshenal

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davis224 wrote:
I agree to an extent. Massive grain mill in the area has thousands of jobs, and had probably 5 or so different mechanical contractor companies who...

I agree to an extent. Massive grain mill in the area has thousands of jobs, and had probably 5 or so different mechanical contractor companies who had a fairly permanent hold on lots of jobs there. They had an agreement between them on what they would cap their wages at and what benefits they would offer, and got the parent company of the mill to agree to a rule that if you quit one contractor, you would not be allowed back on premises working for a different contractor for 90 days, so they could stop people from seeking out pay raises by switching companies so they could keep wages down. I got out of that area and have a much better job now, but EVERYONE can't do that.

Great story profeshenal

Fuckin' ouch, man.

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There's two explanations.

1. Tariffs are causing the price increases. Every economist in the world is against tariffs because they are a terrible idea. One outcome, which happens like clockwork, is the cost of the tariffs is passed onto consumers. Hence, what you see here.

2. They have to pay for Cooper Webb's burgers, shakes, and fries bill somehow. 

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Kawasaki (and KTM) have severe overstocks in Western markets. In a pure supply-demand scenario, their prices should be drastically reduced.

So Kawasaki, while offering 2.5k and $3k rebates on a brand new model for 2024 KX450, can offer their 2026 for the same retail price as their 2025 but Yamaha just can’t handle the tariff? The YZ450 hasn’t changed much since 23 and has to be one of the best selling MX bikes going back to 2018 but Yamaha only has this option? Seems awfully convenient.

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6/13/2025 2:42pm

I'm just waiting for the japanese manufacturers to invest billions to start plants making motorcycles/dirt bikes in the US due to these tariffs-shovels in the ground yet? Keep me posted. 

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bents wrote:
I'm just waiting for the japanese manufacturers to invest billions to start plants making motorcycles/dirt bikes in the US due to these tariffs-shovels in the ground...

I'm just waiting for the japanese manufacturers to invest billions to start plants making motorcycles/dirt bikes in the US due to these tariffs-shovels in the ground yet? Keep me posted. 

No need to Bro. Just bar code the crate as ikea cheap furniture. Problem solved.   Do you actually think I ran 40+ hrs straight with a time stamp & date on the Bol ?  I created my own , super easy to do.  The original is stashed in the back of the sleeper. They need a search warrant to go there.  All kinds of creative stuff going on. Or just pay the port staff off . It’s done all the time.  Funny if you get stopped by the dnr . Your bike comes up as a lazy boy recliner.  Pretty much what a yz is to a DBP anyway. Haha IMG 3505 4.jpeg?VersionId=IEYnVz.zH9eN

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