ok so what’s really going on ?

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ando wrote:

I did.  My point is that with my 8yo I know there’s something going on but it’s not the sore tummy; that’s just a smokescreen.

USA wrote:

So you think Chase isn't missing time due to the crash we all saw? The one that caused him to immediately pull out of the race?

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him...

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?

This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him immediately after the crash. The guys who are allowed to ask questions and demand answers. The guys who can send him to a doctor for review. 

They said (reportedly) that he’s “not all that injured” in public. That’s a pretty big deal isn’t it?? 

Or maybe they got it wrong and the vital users who have never been within 50ft of Chase are right..

Excuse my ignorance but where was it reported that his employer stated that they think he’s not injured?

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Excuse my ignorance but where was it reported that his employer stated that they think he’s not injured?

Every podcast this week has mentioned it that someone at KTM said that they don’t believe that Chase is that hurt.

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CPR wrote:

Excuse my ignorance but where was it reported that his employer stated that they think he’s not injured?

Tumic wrote:

Every podcast this week has mentioned it that someone at KTM said that they don’t believe that Chase is that hurt.

Haven’t had time to listen to any pods, but I think I’ll just wait to see what happens. All the speculation either way helps no one.

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ando wrote:

I did.  My point is that with my 8yo I know there’s something going on but it’s not the sore tummy; that’s just a smokescreen.

USA wrote:

So you think Chase isn't missing time due to the crash we all saw? The one that caused him to immediately pull out of the race?

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him...

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?

This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him immediately after the crash. The guys who are allowed to ask questions and demand answers. The guys who can send him to a doctor for review. 

They said (reportedly) that he’s “not all that injured” in public. That’s a pretty big deal isn’t it?? 

Or maybe they got it wrong and the vital users who have never been within 50ft of Chase are right..

The direct quote from Ian Harrison (his actual employer, not some "unnamed person" like Steve said): "he was banged up and I'd love to have him back next week, but realistically I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick" 

 

So, Chase is saying he's banged up and out, his employer is saying he's banged up and out, and some people on different continents are saying he's got an upset tummy and not really injured. 

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CPR wrote:

Excuse my ignorance but where was it reported that his employer stated that they think he’s not injured?

Tumic wrote:

Every podcast this week has mentioned it that someone at KTM said that they don’t believe that Chase is that hurt.

when these "insiders" all start claiming "unnamed sources"...it typically means they KNOW it's true but need to deflect blame to an unknown boogeyman so they can keep their bro-relationships. Chase's goose is cooked at KTM methinks.

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USA wrote:

So you think Chase isn't missing time due to the crash we all saw? The one that caused him to immediately pull out of the race?

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him...

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?

This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him immediately after the crash. The guys who are allowed to ask questions and demand answers. The guys who can send him to a doctor for review. 

They said (reportedly) that he’s “not all that injured” in public. That’s a pretty big deal isn’t it?? 

Or maybe they got it wrong and the vital users who have never been within 50ft of Chase are right..

CPR wrote:

Excuse my ignorance but where was it reported that his employer stated that they think he’s not injured?

As per the OP’s very first post- Steve Matthes said it. 
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CPR wrote:

Excuse my ignorance but where was it reported that his employer stated that they think he’s not injured?

Tumic wrote:

Every podcast this week has mentioned it that someone at KTM said that they don’t believe that Chase is that hurt.

when these "insiders" all start claiming "unnamed sources"...it typically means they KNOW it's true but need to deflect blame to an unknown boogeyman so they can...

when these "insiders" all start claiming "unnamed sources"...it typically means they KNOW it's true but need to deflect blame to an unknown boogeyman so they can keep their bro-relationships. Chase's goose is cooked at KTM methinks.

And one year later they will talk about it like ”we knew it all the time”

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when these "insiders" all start claiming "unnamed sources"...it typically means they KNOW it's true but need to deflect blame to an unknown boogeyman so they can...

when these "insiders" all start claiming "unnamed sources"...it typically means they KNOW it's true but need to deflect blame to an unknown boogeyman so they can keep their bro-relationships. Chase's goose is cooked at KTM methinks.

If they don't have those "bro-realtionships" we would get literally no scoops on anything and then you'd complain even more than you already do  about the media.

The moto media simply cannot win with you, no matter what you're going to run your mouth.  Just like you did with your last usernames as well.

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It has to be flustrating riding a 450 the battles to get it to handle.  Common knowledge that they hv extreme struggles figuring them out.  And the 97-99 cr250 has a bad reputation. I thought it was great as long as you kept it straight. Everts did great on it but he could ride a tooth on wheels . And make it look good . 

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USA wrote:

So you think Chase isn't missing time due to the crash we all saw? The one that caused him to immediately pull out of the race?

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him...

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?

This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him immediately after the crash. The guys who are allowed to ask questions and demand answers. The guys who can send him to a doctor for review. 

They said (reportedly) that he’s “not all that injured” in public. That’s a pretty big deal isn’t it?? 

Or maybe they got it wrong and the vital users who have never been within 50ft of Chase are right..

USA wrote:
The direct quote from Ian Harrison (his actual employer, not some "unnamed person" like Steve said): "he was banged up and I'd love to have him...

The direct quote from Ian Harrison (his actual employer, not some "unnamed person" like Steve said): "he was banged up and I'd love to have him back next week, but realistically I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick" 

 

So, Chase is saying he's banged up and out, his employer is saying he's banged up and out, and some people on different continents are saying he's got an upset tummy and not really injured. 

What’s the treatment for banged up?

Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message made its way across the ocean?

This is the defending champion, arguably second favourite for the title, probably most likely to take a win or two from Jett, and his title hopes, along with potential win/podium bonuses, have disappeared because he’s going to miss what seems like a third of the season and the only explanation is “banged up”?

I don’t doubt that there’s some reason he isn’t riding.  However when there’s a lack of solid information people will speculate.  My speculation is that he’s suffered a much more serious concussion than it first appeared.  On top of other concussions he’s had in the last few years that would, in my view, be a scenario where he’s out for an extended period but doesn’t want to give out too much info.

 

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ando wrote:
What’s the treatment for banged up?Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message...

What’s the treatment for banged up?

Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message made its way across the ocean?

This is the defending champion, arguably second favourite for the title, probably most likely to take a win or two from Jett, and his title hopes, along with potential win/podium bonuses, have disappeared because he’s going to miss what seems like a third of the season and the only explanation is “banged up”?

I don’t doubt that there’s some reason he isn’t riding.  However when there’s a lack of solid information people will speculate.  My speculation is that he’s suffered a much more serious concussion than it first appeared.  On top of other concussions he’s had in the last few years that would, in my view, be a scenario where he’s out for an extended period but doesn’t want to give out too much info.

 

Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.

My speculation would be concussion as well, so we both agree that there's an injury that gives the situation some credence. It's not exactly common for pro moto riders to disclose concussions.  

It just seems like people are singling out Chase and making him out to be a bad guy for something that happens regularly in our sport. 

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The more they talk about this in these uncertain terms the more I become convinced he’s suffering from an unreported or underreported concussion. 

“Banged up” is a term typically used to describe a rider who had a decent get off during practice and has some bruising/contusions/etc. but will be able to race, albeit slowly. 

“Banged up” does not mean out for a month. This is clearly code speak for the lingering effects of a concussion, something Chase has been publicly quiet about in the past. We saw him gesture to his head as soon as he came off the track.

He could also be dealing with the let down of the SX season, his MX season ruined before it even started etc etc but that’s all a distant second IMO to the potential head injury. All this talk about him quitting, looking for a way out of his contract early/breaching is all BS and that’s clear to who has watched Chase over the course of his career. Chase is about as gritty and determined as they come, almost to a fault, and I’m not even a big fan of his but I do respect the hell out of him. Y’all listen to too many podcasts and read way too much into them. Yes the post on X wasn’t a great look and the backwards hat podium interviews show he’s probably unhappy with the team/bike but he isn’t just quitting on them

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Some common sense analogy.  
Well said!  
 

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ando wrote:
What’s the treatment for banged up?Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message...

What’s the treatment for banged up?

Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message made its way across the ocean?

This is the defending champion, arguably second favourite for the title, probably most likely to take a win or two from Jett, and his title hopes, along with potential win/podium bonuses, have disappeared because he’s going to miss what seems like a third of the season and the only explanation is “banged up”?

I don’t doubt that there’s some reason he isn’t riding.  However when there’s a lack of solid information people will speculate.  My speculation is that he’s suffered a much more serious concussion than it first appeared.  On top of other concussions he’s had in the last few years that would, in my view, be a scenario where he’s out for an extended period but doesn’t want to give out too much info.

 

USA wrote:
Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.My speculation...

Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.

My speculation would be concussion as well, so we both agree that there's an injury that gives the situation some credence. It's not exactly common for pro moto riders to disclose concussions.  

It just seems like people are singling out Chase and making him out to be a bad guy for something that happens regularly in our sport. 

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

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ando wrote:
What’s the treatment for banged up?Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message...

What’s the treatment for banged up?

Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message made its way across the ocean?

This is the defending champion, arguably second favourite for the title, probably most likely to take a win or two from Jett, and his title hopes, along with potential win/podium bonuses, have disappeared because he’s going to miss what seems like a third of the season and the only explanation is “banged up”?

I don’t doubt that there’s some reason he isn’t riding.  However when there’s a lack of solid information people will speculate.  My speculation is that he’s suffered a much more serious concussion than it first appeared.  On top of other concussions he’s had in the last few years that would, in my view, be a scenario where he’s out for an extended period but doesn’t want to give out too much info.

 

USA wrote:
Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.My speculation...

Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.

My speculation would be concussion as well, so we both agree that there's an injury that gives the situation some credence. It's not exactly common for pro moto riders to disclose concussions.  

It just seems like people are singling out Chase and making him out to be a bad guy for something that happens regularly in our sport. 

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It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would...

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

You apparently don't follow hockey. A guy could be beheaded on live TV and would be listed as "week to week, lower body injury" on the injury report.

 

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USA wrote:
Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.My speculation...

Yes, Chase did refute that, and Ian said "I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick", so im not sure what you're trying to debate.

My speculation would be concussion as well, so we both agree that there's an injury that gives the situation some credence. It's not exactly common for pro moto riders to disclose concussions.  

It just seems like people are singling out Chase and making him out to be a bad guy for something that happens regularly in our sport. 

Herr Lich wrote:
It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would...

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

GrapeApe wrote:
You apparently don't follow hockey. A guy could be beheaded on live TV and would be listed as "week to week, lower body injury" on the...

You apparently don't follow hockey. A guy could be beheaded on live TV and would be listed as "week to week, lower body injury" on the injury report.

 

And he can't make a post without some gay sex innuendo....how he is still here with the way he attacks riders, their families, people on here and the media is beyond me...some cleaning is needed....

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Herr Lich wrote:
It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would...

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

The 'every other professional sport' thing is total bullshit, come up with a new argument that has some weight.

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Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him...

Did you miss the part where (reportedly) his employers stated “they think he’s not injured”?

This is his employer. The guys who saw and spoke to him immediately after the crash. The guys who are allowed to ask questions and demand answers. The guys who can send him to a doctor for review. 

They said (reportedly) that he’s “not all that injured” in public. That’s a pretty big deal isn’t it?? 

Or maybe they got it wrong and the vital users who have never been within 50ft of Chase are right..

USA wrote:
The direct quote from Ian Harrison (his actual employer, not some "unnamed person" like Steve said): "he was banged up and I'd love to have him...

The direct quote from Ian Harrison (his actual employer, not some "unnamed person" like Steve said): "he was banged up and I'd love to have him back next week, but realistically I'm really hoping that he's back for Southwick" 

 

So, Chase is saying he's banged up and out, his employer is saying he's banged up and out, and some people on different continents are saying he's got an upset tummy and not really injured. 

ando wrote:
What’s the treatment for banged up?Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message...

What’s the treatment for banged up?

Also Chase directly refuted the expectation he’ll be back for Southwick.  Or did something get lost in translation as that message made its way across the ocean?

This is the defending champion, arguably second favourite for the title, probably most likely to take a win or two from Jett, and his title hopes, along with potential win/podium bonuses, have disappeared because he’s going to miss what seems like a third of the season and the only explanation is “banged up”?

I don’t doubt that there’s some reason he isn’t riding.  However when there’s a lack of solid information people will speculate.  My speculation is that he’s suffered a much more serious concussion than it first appeared.  On top of other concussions he’s had in the last few years that would, in my view, be a scenario where he’s out for an extended period but doesn’t want to give out too much info.

 

Waiting for the “it’s nOnE of yoUrE bUsInESs” crew to arrive..

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The more they talk about this in these uncertain terms the more I become convinced he’s suffering from an unreported or underreported concussion. “Banged up” is a...

The more they talk about this in these uncertain terms the more I become convinced he’s suffering from an unreported or underreported concussion. 

“Banged up” is a term typically used to describe a rider who had a decent get off during practice and has some bruising/contusions/etc. but will be able to race, albeit slowly. 

“Banged up” does not mean out for a month. This is clearly code speak for the lingering effects of a concussion, something Chase has been publicly quiet about in the past. We saw him gesture to his head as soon as he came off the track.

He could also be dealing with the let down of the SX season, his MX season ruined before it even started etc etc but that’s all a distant second IMO to the potential head injury. All this talk about him quitting, looking for a way out of his contract early/breaching is all BS and that’s clear to who has watched Chase over the course of his career. Chase is about as gritty and determined as they come, almost to a fault, and I’m not even a big fan of his but I do respect the hell out of him. Y’all listen to too many podcasts and read way too much into them. Yes the post on X wasn’t a great look and the backwards hat podium interviews show he’s probably unhappy with the team/bike but he isn’t just quitting on them

Also consider we know he had a concussion back in '23 that kept him out for a month. Dont they say the repercussions of concussions get worse the more the get?

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Chase seems to be being intentionally aloof, which is fueling the speculation.  I imagine he knows that.  The speculation could stop, with a statement. 

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not saying by any means it's the case. But more of an open discussion.

But it's a shame that mental health is never really spoken about or acknowledged much in our sport. With the amount of effort, pressure, social media and the way fans can voice opinions now must make it pretty dam tough to be a modern-day athlete. Add in how small our niche sport is and the type of demographic people who follow it. 

Especially for someone like Sexton who has had some pretty crazy up and downs. 

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Herr Lich wrote:
It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would...

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

Stewyeww wrote:

The 'every other professional sport' thing is total bullshit, come up with a new argument that has some weight.

Well I follow rugby league here in Australia.  They have a very detailed and strict protocol for head injuries.  As soon as there is suspicion of a head injury player must leave the field for formal assessment.  Concussion assessment is done against reference data obtained from players during the off season.  Head injuries are graded and each grade comes with a mandatory rest time from that could be from a number of minutes to several weeks.  Cumulative head injury information is kept to ascertain the risk of long term multiple concussions.

There’s a standard that MX and SX could aspire to.

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not saying by any means it's the case. But more of an open discussion.But it's a shame that mental health is never really spoken about or...

not saying by any means it's the case. But more of an open discussion.

But it's a shame that mental health is never really spoken about or acknowledged much in our sport. With the amount of effort, pressure, social media and the way fans can voice opinions now must make it pretty dam tough to be a modern-day athlete. Add in how small our niche sport is and the type of demographic people who follow it. 

Especially for someone like Sexton who has had some pretty crazy up and downs. 

Motocross is not unique with regard to mental health issues for participants.

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While health is obviously a factor Chase has never won a championship where the dominant guy di not get hurt. 2019 he won 1 250 East race His SX Championship was due to Eli getting injured and he won last year because Jett and Eli were out. IF he has signed a deal why come back and risk injury Maybe 202 but that class had no one in it

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@LewisPhillips already made a video on this topic,  is it not enough?https://youtu.be/A_Af0KecDPE?si=Ai0-Vx3ccnWSmpEZ

@LewisPhillips already made a video on this topic,  is it not enough?

https://youtu.be/A_Af0KecDPE?si=Ai0-Vx3ccnWSmpEZ

There is no real statement in this video. Just a “source” saying Redbud.  

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Herr Lich wrote:
It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would...

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

Stewyeww wrote:

The 'every other professional sport' thing is total bullshit, come up with a new argument that has some weight.

ando wrote:
Well I follow rugby league here in Australia.  They have a very detailed and strict protocol for head injuries.  As soon as there is suspicion of...

Well I follow rugby league here in Australia.  They have a very detailed and strict protocol for head injuries.  As soon as there is suspicion of a head injury player must leave the field for formal assessment.  Concussion assessment is done against reference data obtained from players during the off season.  Head injuries are graded and each grade comes with a mandatory rest time from that could be from a number of minutes to several weeks.  Cumulative head injury information is kept to ascertain the risk of long term multiple concussions.

There’s a standard that MX and SX could aspire to.

I follow hockey and they have concussion spotters, even if the player says they are OK they are pulled and tested before being allowed to return to play, or they are sent for further testing. At the same time, players will have all kinds of other injuries from broken bones to torn muscles or ligaments and nothing will be said until after the season so they aren't targeted.

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While health is obviously a factor Chase has never won a championship where the dominant guy di not get hurt. 2019 he won 1 250 East...

While health is obviously a factor Chase has never won a championship where the dominant guy di not get hurt. 2019 he won 1 250 East race His SX Championship was due to Eli getting injured and he won last year because Jett and Eli were out. IF he has signed a deal why come back and risk injury Maybe 202 but that class had no one in it

Fast racerman69,


Why are you not racing pro mx?  You dont have the speed? Just go faster, wait, then you may get injured. 

Jett crashed causing one injury.  If he slowed down that wouldn't have happened. 

This coming from a jett fan but damn…


The asterisk clown show gets old. 

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6/5/2025 7:20pm
Herr Lich wrote:
It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would...

It's tiresome that a professional sport still considers 'banged up' to be a suitable explanation for an injury of some sort. Every other professional sport would come out and say exactly what the problem is. FFS. 

And of course for the moto 'media'  - they can't deepthroat riders and teams and asks questions at the same time. It's too much for their mouths.

Stewyeww wrote:

The 'every other professional sport' thing is total bullshit, come up with a new argument that has some weight.

ando wrote:
Well I follow rugby league here in Australia.  They have a very detailed and strict protocol for head injuries.  As soon as there is suspicion of...

Well I follow rugby league here in Australia.  They have a very detailed and strict protocol for head injuries.  As soon as there is suspicion of a head injury player must leave the field for formal assessment.  Concussion assessment is done against reference data obtained from players during the off season.  Head injuries are graded and each grade comes with a mandatory rest time from that could be from a number of minutes to several weeks.  Cumulative head injury information is kept to ascertain the risk of long term multiple concussions.

There’s a standard that MX and SX could aspire to.

They follow the same concussion protocols as all the major sports in the US do…..There’s a great video on RacerX that explains it all and you can use the google and search UPMC concussion protocols….

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Philly215
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6/5/2025 7:45pm
Philly215 wrote:
Maybe. But on Pulp Steve and Keefer mentioned that it’s a known thing Kawi is down on power compared to other teams. I know it’s not...

Maybe. But on Pulp Steve and Keefer mentioned that it’s a known thing Kawi is down on power compared to other teams. I know it’s not factory, but they also said Nicoletti is down 8-10hp from his Yamaha. 

BobPA wrote:

Down 10hp? That sounds wildly exaggerated. I'd be surprised if factory 450s made 10hp over stock.

beamer wrote:

Phil pulled the hole shot first moto in Calgary last weekend 

Phil said he had no idea but Steve and Keefer seemed like they had a good source on that. I’m sure Phil knows but didn’t want to badmouth the team or bike. And Phil could get a start on anything. I don’t know anything just repeating what was said on the podcast. I do know the Club bikes are known for making a ton of power. 

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