Mirtl unloads on Jett Lawrence...

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gt80rider wrote:
Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking taking it public is a good way to go 🤣Lawrence stock has been falling ever since going public...

Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking taking it public is a good way to go 🤣

Lawrence stock has been falling ever since going public on this. Even if they win, they lost.

I highly doubt their stock is falling with Jett just signing another long term deal before heading off to the met gala, but even if it were, do you think that's because they both missed nearly all of the supercross season or because they filed a lawsuit only core fans even know exists? 

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5/17/2025 1:39pm Edited Date/Time 5/17/2025 1:39pm
LLOYD22 wrote:
Kinda crazy if you think about it, some loose there minds over deegan saying suck it, but protect Jett for saying the N word.  Lot of...

Kinda crazy if you think about it, some loose there minds over deegan saying suck it, but protect Jett for saying the N word.  Lot of mentally challenged people in this world!  😂

MPJC wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment. The worst anyone thought about Deegan’s comment was that it was classless, douchey, and made him come off as unlikable. Nobody...

This is a ridiculous comment. The worst anyone thought about Deegan’s comment was that it was classless, douchey, and made him come off as unlikable. Nobody (at least nobody sane) thought it made him a monster or moral reprobate. Mirtl is clearly trying to portray Jett as a monster and moral reprobate by “proving” that he’s racist. The question is: Does the video evidence really prove that? My view is that Jett should not have said those things - especially not on video which opens the possibility that others could hear him say them. It is embarrassing for him and not a good look. But does it prove anything about the man as he is today? I think not. I don’t think it proves he was a racist then. He was a giggling child using forbidden words in a room with a few people. He wasn’t a supercross champion giving a live interview in a full stadium. This comparison is asinine and the irony of calling others mentally challenged while making it is astounding. 

You proved my point, youre fragile like the ones I mentioned, you pick and choose the truths based on your feelings and not the facts,  you’re saying Jett was 16 and didn’t mean it but deegan is 18 and did.  Sorry I triggered you!

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LLOYD22 wrote:
Kinda crazy if you think about it, some loose there minds over deegan saying suck it, but protect Jett for saying the N word.  Lot of...

Kinda crazy if you think about it, some loose there minds over deegan saying suck it, but protect Jett for saying the N word.  Lot of mentally challenged people in this world!  😂

I think both are fine and neither had malicious intention. Krooksey is insane 

I have no problems with either one of them but it’s ridiculous that some of these clowns attack one and protect the other.

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If ever there was a debate on whether vital is "media" or not has been definitively answered now

ML512 wrote:

Do explain?

Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing racial slurs out.  Explain your reasoning or what we are missing.

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If ever there was a debate on whether vital is "media" or not has been definitively answered now

ML512 wrote:

Do explain?

LLOYD22 wrote:
Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing...

Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing racial slurs out.  Explain your reasoning or what we are missing.

He said something stupid when he was 14. Was it really, really, really idiotic for Jett to say that? Yes. Does it make him racist? Don't necessarily think so. You would be surprised by what young people from other countries understand about that word. They know is “bad” but they also hear it every day in songs, films, YouTube videos…etc. They admire and want to emulate a lot of these hip hop artists. You can see white teenagers in Europe that are into hip hop calling each other the n word. Are they aware of what they are doing? Yeah somewhat, but nothing like an American kid who raised in the middle of that struggle. It is good to educate and raise awareness towards important important topics, but it’s also important to contextualize before passing judgement. It's a word, context matters and he didn't use it in a racist context. Doesn't mean it wasn't dumb, but I did dumb shit as a 14 year old too

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gt80rider wrote:
Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking taking it public is a good way to go 🤣Lawrence stock has been falling ever since going public...

Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking taking it public is a good way to go 🤣

Lawrence stock has been falling ever since going public on this. Even if they win, they lost.

Fixed it for ya. 

Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking taking it public is a good way to go 🤣

MIRTL stock has been falling ever since going public on this. Even if they win, they lost.

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If ever there was a debate on whether vital is "media" or not has been definitively answered now

ML512 wrote:

Do explain?

LLOYD22 wrote:
Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing...

Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing racial slurs out.  Explain your reasoning or what we are missing.

kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody wants to talk about it so there's nothing to report' which I"m sure might be true. But then you have Mirtl texting ML (by his own admission) and instead of saying "Cool - let's do a massive expose article on this entire drama-fest cause my readers definitely want to know about it, and it's relevant to our sport"...he makes fun of Mirtl and shrugs his shoulders. It's just confusing to me. He's literally banging on the door wanting to have the "press" give his side...but he's been black-balled by the "media"....who won't cover the topic but instead let Cooksey do it and then just make fun of him. 

I dunno - just seems like missed opportunities as a "journalist". Thus my comment that ML's comment pretty much cements that he doesn't really wanna cover NEWS necessarily, which is just disheartening as a fan because so many things go unreported simply because "media" wants to keep their bro-relationships going.

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All negative comments on the original IG post have been deleted. 

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LLOYD22 wrote:
Kinda crazy if you think about it, some loose there minds over deegan saying suck it, but protect Jett for saying the N word.  Lot of...

Kinda crazy if you think about it, some loose there minds over deegan saying suck it, but protect Jett for saying the N word.  Lot of mentally challenged people in this world!  😂

MPJC wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment. The worst anyone thought about Deegan’s comment was that it was classless, douchey, and made him come off as unlikable. Nobody...

This is a ridiculous comment. The worst anyone thought about Deegan’s comment was that it was classless, douchey, and made him come off as unlikable. Nobody (at least nobody sane) thought it made him a monster or moral reprobate. Mirtl is clearly trying to portray Jett as a monster and moral reprobate by “proving” that he’s racist. The question is: Does the video evidence really prove that? My view is that Jett should not have said those things - especially not on video which opens the possibility that others could hear him say them. It is embarrassing for him and not a good look. But does it prove anything about the man as he is today? I think not. I don’t think it proves he was a racist then. He was a giggling child using forbidden words in a room with a few people. He wasn’t a supercross champion giving a live interview in a full stadium. This comparison is asinine and the irony of calling others mentally challenged while making it is astounding. 

LLOYD22 wrote:
You proved my point, youre fragile like the ones I mentioned, you pick and choose the truths based on your feelings and not the facts,  you’re...

You proved my point, youre fragile like the ones I mentioned, you pick and choose the truths based on your feelings and not the facts,  you’re saying Jett was 16 and didn’t mean it but deegan is 18 and did.  Sorry I triggered you!

Well, that’s surprising. I had no idea I was saying anything like that or that I was triggered. Thanks, Lloyd. 

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lol the nose wipe the MOMENT the video starts

lol the nose wipe the MOMENT the video starts

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Did the 'babysitter' film the vid? 

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In my professional opinion I’m going to say that myrtle is on a mix of adderall and xanax and possibly a sprinkle of antidepressants

Add in meth, a bit of coke, and some PCP and you're about right. 

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In my professional opinion I’m going to say that myrtle is on a mix of adderall and xanax and possibly a sprinkle of antidepressants

Herr Lich wrote:

Add in meth, a bit of coke, and some PCP and you're about right. 

About the only positive out of this sorry saga is the skinny jeans have been consigned to the dustbin.

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Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high profile athlete to say those things. It's not my virtue to signal as a white dude but I do wonder what black fans may think, or like big james after hearing the shit he and bubba went through back in the day. Still imagine jetts team makes a statement

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All negative comments on the original IG post have been deleted. 

He’s blocking everyone 

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BobbyLight wrote:
Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high...

Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high profile athlete to say those things. It's not my virtue to signal as a white dude but I do wonder what black fans may think, or like big james after hearing the shit he and bubba went through back in the day. Still imagine jetts team makes a statement

I agree that only negative things can come to Jett because of this...and this is exactly what Mirtyl wants.

Our gutter main stream media over here (which I believe is one of the worst in the world) covers literally zero about moto but if they got a sniff of this they'd splash it everywhere for the obligatory 2 week period crucifying Jett as a racist.

There's not a single part of me that believes Jett is racist but what he said is definitely offensive no matter how it was said.

What is also plain to see is that Mirtly is one of THE worst types of people around.

Any good agent of an upcoming/potential elite athlete should be guiding and mentoring these young kids on how to act and how their actions can have future consequences...especially someone like Jett who has always opened his mouth before his brain has had a chance to think.

What Myrtl should have done on these occasions is take Jett to one side and explain "look kid that shit is NOT ok...end of story".  Instead the dirty prick recorded something in a "safe space" and kept it in his back pocket for future use and I would not be surprised if he was encouraging it as well.

And the fact he's calling it episode 1 indicates he's been gathering a heap of dirt over the years.  He's a fukin low life and that moralless aresehole kooksey is farming the fuck out of him.

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jps256 wrote:

‘Coons’ is a prominent Australian slur thrown around in primary and secondary schools. You would here it nearly everyday

Bearuno wrote:
I don't think I ever heard it at my schools.Though, I was always aware that it was a derogatory word, much like the 'N' word. But, perhaps...

I don't think I ever heard it at my schools.

Though, I was always aware that it was a derogatory word, much like the 'N' word. 

But, perhaps it was common in Qld, where I see you as being?

My familiarity with the word Coon, was the Coon Cheese brand.

That name, came from  a family name - the owners / producers, as far as I know - it had nothing to do with any racism. But, It gradually raised many eyebrows and concerns, and, it was discontinued ( the Brand name ) , a fair few years ago, as far as I know. Bega Cheese may have snaffled it up?

Everywhere you find words used, by some, to put down / label others. It's what people do, unfortunately.

Heck, I'd be called a 'Westie', as they call us from the Western Suburbs of Sydney - hang on, I guess I was labelled with a derogatory term!

Didn't matter, as when we played against the Fancy Private School Teams from East of us, we'd just Beat them, and, Beat the s**t out of them, as well. I guess we were pretty good at 'othering' them - as we generally called them F**kwits, among other pejoratives ............

 

CPR wrote:
I can sadly confirm it was used at my school in Queensland, although we didn’t really know what it meant. Just that it was American slang...

I can sadly confirm it was used at my school in Queensland, although we didn’t really know what it meant. Just that it was American slang, so we thought it had something to do with Racoons. Alas ignorance is no excuse.

Mail me $500 for reparations and we’ll call it cool. Your mates can atone for their ignorance in the same way. 

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ML512 wrote:

Do explain?

LLOYD22 wrote:
Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing...

Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing racial slurs out.  Explain your reasoning or what we are missing.

kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody...

kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody wants to talk about it so there's nothing to report' which I"m sure might be true. But then you have Mirtl texting ML (by his own admission) and instead of saying "Cool - let's do a massive expose article on this entire drama-fest cause my readers definitely want to know about it, and it's relevant to our sport"...he makes fun of Mirtl and shrugs his shoulders. It's just confusing to me. He's literally banging on the door wanting to have the "press" give his side...but he's been black-balled by the "media"....who won't cover the topic but instead let Cooksey do it and then just make fun of him. 

I dunno - just seems like missed opportunities as a "journalist". Thus my comment that ML's comment pretty much cements that he doesn't really wanna cover NEWS necessarily, which is just disheartening as a fan because so many things go unreported simply because "media" wants to keep their bro-relationships going.

You realize that Cooksey isn’t a journalist, right? 

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LLOYD22 wrote:
Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing...

Without starting a fight I believe he’s saying you had no problem posting the accusations against mirtl but youre silent on a high profile rider throwing racial slurs out.  Explain your reasoning or what we are missing.

kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody...

kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody wants to talk about it so there's nothing to report' which I"m sure might be true. But then you have Mirtl texting ML (by his own admission) and instead of saying "Cool - let's do a massive expose article on this entire drama-fest cause my readers definitely want to know about it, and it's relevant to our sport"...he makes fun of Mirtl and shrugs his shoulders. It's just confusing to me. He's literally banging on the door wanting to have the "press" give his side...but he's been black-balled by the "media"....who won't cover the topic but instead let Cooksey do it and then just make fun of him. 

I dunno - just seems like missed opportunities as a "journalist". Thus my comment that ML's comment pretty much cements that he doesn't really wanna cover NEWS necessarily, which is just disheartening as a fan because so many things go unreported simply because "media" wants to keep their bro-relationships going.

MPJC wrote:

You realize that Cooksey isn’t a journalist, right? 

yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he can report on. Whether he does so accurately or not is not my point.

ML and DC and lotsa these guys claim they are "covering the sport" which sounds great, but here we have one of these people (ML) saying "LOL - Stupid Mirtl texted me, and Matthes...and we all just laughed at him!" while ignoring hte fact that this topic is a story of high interest for the fans, yet they refuse to address/cover/print anything related to the topic.

So this sorta sealed the deal with me to expect nothing but PR and softball questions from anyone associated with this sport. 

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kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody...

kinda. ML bristles frequently when challenged with "WHY ARE YOU NOT COVERING THIS TOPIC?" (not specific to Mirtl - just in general) Then he says "Nobody wants to talk about it so there's nothing to report' which I"m sure might be true. But then you have Mirtl texting ML (by his own admission) and instead of saying "Cool - let's do a massive expose article on this entire drama-fest cause my readers definitely want to know about it, and it's relevant to our sport"...he makes fun of Mirtl and shrugs his shoulders. It's just confusing to me. He's literally banging on the door wanting to have the "press" give his side...but he's been black-balled by the "media"....who won't cover the topic but instead let Cooksey do it and then just make fun of him. 

I dunno - just seems like missed opportunities as a "journalist". Thus my comment that ML's comment pretty much cements that he doesn't really wanna cover NEWS necessarily, which is just disheartening as a fan because so many things go unreported simply because "media" wants to keep their bro-relationships going.

MPJC wrote:

You realize that Cooksey isn’t a journalist, right? 

yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he...

yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he can report on. Whether he does so accurately or not is not my point.

ML and DC and lotsa these guys claim they are "covering the sport" which sounds great, but here we have one of these people (ML) saying "LOL - Stupid Mirtl texted me, and Matthes...and we all just laughed at him!" while ignoring hte fact that this topic is a story of high interest for the fans, yet they refuse to address/cover/print anything related to the topic.

So this sorta sealed the deal with me to expect nothing but PR and softball questions from anyone associated with this sport. 

“Of interest” can mean “it’s gossip and people like gossip”. That doesn’t mean you have to give it a platform beyond providing a forum where people can discuss - as we’re doing. 

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Nothing new, typical DARVO response.

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For those of us over 50 without instasnap, can someone put the plot line together for us?

Or at least a cliff notes version, baby without the birth pains? Breakfast without the sausage ingredients?

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Mirtl starting all his videos now with uncontrollable arms and facial expressionscrazy-homer-simpson 0

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Maybe he’s going to take the Triumph route and release a word or two at a time and drag it out until the SMX finals. I...

Maybe he’s going to take the Triumph route and release a word or two at a time and drag it out until the SMX finals. I found this in a quick google search. Can anyone here from AUS say if these names were said like it was normal?https://www.france24.com/en/20170829-australia-state-scraps-place-names-with-n-word

Can anyone here from AUS say if these names were said like it was normal?”

Yes can confirm, one of the seven N Creeks mentioned in the article was near me. I work for a state government department and besides the name appearing on official maps, it was used in formal documents and reports until recently. It is now an unnamed creek.

Believe it or not, there’s still some landmarks that survived that round of changes that may be even more offensive. But they’re still there in black and white and on signs.

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Gay. Who gives a fuck? Seriously, nobody gives a fuck.

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BobbyLight wrote:
Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high...

Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high profile athlete to say those things. It's not my virtue to signal as a white dude but I do wonder what black fans may think, or like big james after hearing the shit he and bubba went through back in the day. Still imagine jetts team makes a statement

I certainly won't speak for the Stewarts as it's not my place to as merely a fan of theirs and the sport. But I do know they experienced true, real racism. Being denied entry to tracks, Sonya getting spit on while trying to watch her sons ride, the family being called slurs (including the one Jett used, admitedly) with malice and hatred behind those words. When I juxtapose that with a video of a dumb, impulsive 14-year-old saying a bad word which he almost certainly doesn't understand the impact of as a foreigner, I just can't see what Jett did as being in the same stratosphere. It's not a good look, no, not at all. But to me it doesn't serve as evidence of him being racist

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yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he...

yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he can report on. Whether he does so accurately or not is not my point.

ML and DC and lotsa these guys claim they are "covering the sport" which sounds great, but here we have one of these people (ML) saying "LOL - Stupid Mirtl texted me, and Matthes...and we all just laughed at him!" while ignoring hte fact that this topic is a story of high interest for the fans, yet they refuse to address/cover/print anything related to the topic.

So this sorta sealed the deal with me to expect nothing but PR and softball questions from anyone associated with this sport. 

This is what ML wrote:

"He blocked me in recent weeks, then texted me last night asking me why I’m not doing a story on that he published and how I’m a coconspirator. Bro, I can’t see the video."

This is how you quoted ML:

"LOL - Stupid Mirtl texted me, and Matthes...and we all just laughed at him!"

How did you manage to interpret ML's sentence this way?  There's twisting words and then there's straight up bullshit.

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yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he...

yep! Cooksey is exactly as advertised: His opinion...no holds barred. He's not a journalist, he's just a guy out there digging around for "news" that he can report on. Whether he does so accurately or not is not my point.

ML and DC and lotsa these guys claim they are "covering the sport" which sounds great, but here we have one of these people (ML) saying "LOL - Stupid Mirtl texted me, and Matthes...and we all just laughed at him!" while ignoring hte fact that this topic is a story of high interest for the fans, yet they refuse to address/cover/print anything related to the topic.

So this sorta sealed the deal with me to expect nothing but PR and softball questions from anyone associated with this sport. 

gerg wrote:
This is what ML wrote:"He blocked me in recent weeks, then texted me last night asking me why I’m not doing a story on that he...

This is what ML wrote:

"He blocked me in recent weeks, then texted me last night asking me why I’m not doing a story on that he published and how I’m a coconspirator. Bro, I can’t see the video."

This is how you quoted ML:

"LOL - Stupid Mirtl texted me, and Matthes...and we all just laughed at him!"

How did you manage to interpret ML's sentence this way?  There's twisting words and then there's straight up bullshit.

It’s pretty clear Gimea2smoke is intentionally misrepresenting what ML said.   

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Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high...

Mirtl is a clown, I think we can all agree on that. But regardless of source or age, its not a good look for a high profile athlete to say those things. It's not my virtue to signal as a white dude but I do wonder what black fans may think, or like big james after hearing the shit he and bubba went through back in the day. Still imagine jetts team makes a statement

I certainly won't speak for the Stewarts as it's not my place to as merely a fan of theirs and the sport. But I do know...

I certainly won't speak for the Stewarts as it's not my place to as merely a fan of theirs and the sport. But I do know they experienced true, real racism. Being denied entry to tracks, Sonya getting spit on while trying to watch her sons ride, the family being called slurs (including the one Jett used, admitedly) with malice and hatred behind those words. When I juxtapose that with a video of a dumb, impulsive 14-year-old saying a bad word which he almost certainly doesn't understand the impact of as a foreigner, I just can't see what Jett did as being in the same stratosphere. It's not a good look, no, not at all. But to me it doesn't serve as evidence of him being racist

Agreed.  Not a good look, but the context of it is not threatening or trying to offend in my opinion.  Cooksey's take should be interesting.

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