Worst broadcast so far

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4/6/2025 4:03pm
kijen wrote:
Thats cause feld is "growing" the circus, not the sport.  Fans dig the stupid stuff as entertainment, the actual racing who cares?As posters we have very...

Thats cause feld is "growing" the circus, not the sport.  Fans dig the stupid stuff as entertainment, the actual racing who cares?

As posters we have very little juice, now if "journalist" or those with a platform  (Vital, Racer X, Matthes, Ping etc...)start writing articles and asking questions...such as, Ricky, during the race can you  expalin why you weren't covering the rac?  Dont expect an answer but need publicity for the decsions makers to take notice.

I stopped watching last night during the main, for me, my time is more valueable then watching a crappy product.

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Never happen with current “Mx\Sx media” to busy Bro-in down…to bring hard facts

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4/6/2025 9:33pm
slowsquid wrote:

Shit bag commentary. Wtf? How does this happen? If you suck at your job in my line of work, you get replaced. 

It blows me away how Will got this far because her voice is nails on a chalk board. 

It's not great, no doubt. I could jive a lot better though if her contributions were at appropriate  times and only  when necessary. Also, get to the point. "I  talked to so and so about their injury, the xrays were negative and their cleared to give it a go tonight." I don't wanna hear her talk for more than 7 seconds.

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We often steal the best riders from MXGP….how about you go offer thier whole MXGP TV production and pay them well?  They do it soooo much better, on probably a fifth the budget, while it is amazing Feld/peacock can be so bad.

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slowsquid wrote:

Shit bag commentary. Wtf? How does this happen? If you suck at your job in my line of work, you get replaced. 

It blows me away how Will got this far because her voice is nails on a chalk board. 

It's not what you know it's who you blow (in this case). 

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4/6/2025 11:26pm Edited Date/Time 4/7/2025 7:11pm
kijen wrote:
Thats cause feld is "growing" the circus, not the sport.  Fans dig the stupid stuff as entertainment, the actual racing who cares?As posters we have very...

Thats cause feld is "growing" the circus, not the sport.  Fans dig the stupid stuff as entertainment, the actual racing who cares?

As posters we have very little juice, now if "journalist" or those with a platform  (Vital, Racer X, Matthes, Ping etc...)start writing articles and asking questions...such as, Ricky, during the race can you  expalin why you weren't covering the rac?  Dont expect an answer but need publicity for the decsions makers to take notice.

I stopped watching last night during the main, for me, my time is more valueable then watching a crappy product.

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sandman768 wrote:

Never happen with current “Mx\Sx media” to busy Bro-in down…to bring hard facts

Most of the moto 'media' behave like excited school girls around the riders. 

Bieber-fever hits Sydney | news.com.au ...

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It's so refreshing to hear Paul Malin with the MXGPTV package, actually calling the race and adding some details worth mentioning. If nothing really happens, he stays quiet. Or he adds a small thing that gives the listener valuable information. 

For example, TV coverage showed Cas Valk riding around in 4th and he mentioned that Valk is riding around with a lot of confindence due to his overall win at the Dutch Nationals (lots of GP riders attend these) a week ago, but that he now was under the weather a bit and would possibily fade at the end of the moto. 

This gives listeners valuable info, instead of Will going on a rant of 2 mins about how some riders dad/team manager was called and that  -surprisingly - last week they told the rider to 'just believe in himself and trust the process!' Week after week I hear the same nonsense information that makes me mute the races. Only JT for me is worth listening to (from this weekend's broadcast team)

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4/7/2025 6:57am

For the 2nd WMX race there was a technical glitch where you couldn’t hear Main commentating. It was really refreshing just hearing the raw sounds of the bikes. I couldn’t listen like that all the time because Malin brings so much to the broadcast, unmatched imo. 

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No excuse for missing the last 2 laps with Webb going forward and Chase going backwards. They are the championship leaders, they should have eyes on them the entire race! It should be someones responsibility to be watching them and know whats going on.

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I wonder if any of the moto media will ask questions to the broadcast team about how they would improve their performance for the next mud race?? 

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4/7/2025 8:09am
TAUTOG wrote:
No excuse for missing the last 2 laps with Webb going forward and Chase going backwards. They are the championship leaders, they should have eyes on...

No excuse for missing the last 2 laps with Webb going forward and Chase going backwards. They are the championship leaders, they should have eyes on them the entire race! It should be someones responsibility to be watching them and know whats going on.

Weege believes it was because mud and timing and scoring, yet they forget mud has been around just like timing and scoring forever. They either think people are dumb, or more than likely he simply can't say anything which is understandable. But things need changed

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4/7/2025 8:11am

Damn I only watched the highlights and the commentary on that (despite it being after the race has finished so they know exactly who finished where) was shocking. And the highlight videos are about 4 minutes long.

If it wasn't for the results screen at the end (especially in 250SX) i'd have had no clue as to who finished where.

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Not one mention of the ride Gage Linville put in the broadcast with his ride in the main from being down in the first corner, to...

Not one mention of the ride Gage Linville put in the broadcast with his ride in the main from being down in the first corner, to getting 3rd on the podium. 

That's a real shame. This was a perfect opportunity for his small team/sponsors etc to get a shoutout on TV. 

It does seem like they have no idea who anyone is unless they're on a factory team. Except Weege of course.

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4/7/2025 8:37am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2025 8:38am
9bro9 wrote:
Not one mention of the ride Gage Linville put in the broadcast with his ride in the main from being down in the first corner, to...

Not one mention of the ride Gage Linville put in the broadcast with his ride in the main from being down in the first corner, to getting 3rd on the podium. 

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That's a real shame. This was a perfect opportunity for his small team/sponsors etc to get a shoutout on TV. It does seem like they have no...

That's a real shame. This was a perfect opportunity for his small team/sponsors etc to get a shoutout on TV. 

It does seem like they have no idea who anyone is unless they're on a factory team. Except Weege of course.

How many times did the broadcast replay the start pile up? I think I saw it at least 2 - 3 times & you could see the big # 75 LINVILLE facing the cameras. All of the eyes in the booth and nobody could put it together. He had even passed Hammaker who was down with him in the first corner with RJ, and contending for the red plate? It's a disservice to the team, and to Gage Mud race or not, they didn't give them the mentions that Cullin Park, Shane McElrath & teams got for their podium appearances. 

Ricky isn't good at making split second calls, his brain isn't wired that way. It's not a diss, just seems he needs the T ball set up like on Title 24 with RV where he's more capable to carry conversation. Week in, week out, the same fumbling of words, in the cheap plaid suits you'd expect Tom Arnold from Roseanne to be wearing to church on Sunday. 

NBC - Give us the option to have announcing or just the sounds of the stadium, and see which option is the more desirable one for your audience. 

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4/7/2025 8:45am

All I can say is everything y'all are saying. Worst coverage of the Vialle 6th to dead last incident. Then the entire 450 main was a joke. Never watching the championship points battle, then watching AP belly flop WHILE THE FKN RACE IS STILL GOING ON FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS with Webb gaining on everyone for 6 laps and then he's ahead of everyone at the line. Whoever the camera director is NEEDS TO BE FIRED. This horrible broadcasting has gone on long enough. This type of coverage is exactly why this sport can't grow.

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hopgrower wrote:
It was not great, but I am going to assume that the water was playing havoc with the timing and scoring equipment.  I would also guess...

It was not great, but I am going to assume that the water was playing havoc with the timing and scoring equipment.  I would also guess that the spotters where having a hard time communicating which bike was which to the camera crew.   But yes, not great.

crmx105 wrote:
Yes weather had to have a major impact on everything. When RJ was picking his bike up you couldn't tell it was him! Had to be...

Yes weather had to have a major impact on everything. When RJ was picking his bike up you couldn't tell it was him! Had to be near impossible to tell who was lapped etc . Imagine running a camera in those conditions would be no easy task. Very different environment than sitting on your couch watching it on TV.

Zycki11 wrote:
Until your a mechanic or a rider that has been there and know what it is really like then you are doing the same thing. Arm...

Until your a mechanic or a rider that has been there and know what it is really like then you are doing the same thing. Arm chair quaterbacking.  The production sucks, if you think it is ok then cool. But when you see the stupidity behind it all and actually understand the sport and have been around, you do not accept this piece of garbage they package. The production is and always will be at fault.  James and Weege can only polish a turd so much, and when they are not announcing and you have an evening of mud racing like last night? Well your answer is staring you in the face.  Diffy and Ricky do not deserve the booth, and Bondo had all the time in the world to paint his stupid storyline pictures and still couldn't even follow the championship battle as we close in on final rounds. So many examples showing sub par performance from that group week after week and it is accepted because of our sports size and the bro sho.  Again, why anybody accepts this as ok, when we could make changes that represent our sport positively and actually show it in a light that is interesting that shows the difficulty. The camera angles suck, the sound sucks, the production sucks, the story telling sucks, the timing of replays suck. It is all simply not good enough.  

Simple changes that can be made

-Graphics designer, for pete sakes this is not difficult, they could find someone on Vital who is a graphic designer who can do something better than the shit boxes we get. 
-Sound, listen to the race and the bikes more. Mics need to be moved to hear the action better
-Cameras, they have them in the opposite direction showing them coming to you instead of away from you mostly, so you hardly see the difficulty of the track as well as either too focused in, or way too far away, there is a happy medium
-Replays nobody gives a fuck about the holeshot replay, if you have to show it due to sponsorship obligations show it after the race. The beginning is when the most movement is happening and we always miss it because of you guessed it.  Poor timing and LONG replays
-Announcing, do we really need to say it? Stick with Weege, Stew and JT.  No more WIll, RC, and Diffy.. They offer zero other than taking up pay that can go elsewhere and have a designated PIT reported who understands WTH is going on with the bikes and technical terms. Not a random reporter guessing wtf is going on

Watch any other motorsport and it is obvious how our production team dumbs down our sport and makes it look childish instead of professional. Then, others wonder why it doesn't grow. Right here is your reason, MXGP runs circles around our TV crew with 1 announcer.  This is the largest pile of poo packaged to us and y'all gobble it up with open mouths.  

Meaningful well though through changes need to be made

Not many people bring up the point of cameras, but you hit the nail on the head. So many times, they show the lead rider and have the camera zoomed in on him, but the guy in 2nd place is ~2 sec behind, and we can't see him because it's so zoomed in on the leader. Unless the rider is truly on an island, the camera zoom should be wide enough to show the other riders in the same section. And then, when they do actually want to capture multiple riders simultaneously during a battle, they use the drone cam, which makes the riders look like ants. Watch races from the 2000s-early 2010s, and the camera angles caught the action so much better than they do now.

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4/7/2025 9:40am

Maybe if every one just did not turn it on one night, maybe they would get the hint and fix it.

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4/7/2025 10:32am
tomlopez wrote:
Not many people bring up the point of cameras, but you hit the nail on the head. So many times, they show the lead rider and...

Not many people bring up the point of cameras, but you hit the nail on the head. So many times, they show the lead rider and have the camera zoomed in on him, but the guy in 2nd place is ~2 sec behind, and we can't see him because it's so zoomed in on the leader. Unless the rider is truly on an island, the camera zoom should be wide enough to show the other riders in the same section. And then, when they do actually want to capture multiple riders simultaneously during a battle, they use the drone cam, which makes the riders look like ants. Watch races from the 2000s-early 2010s, and the camera angles caught the action so much better than they do now.

I was screaming at the tv to pull back!!

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4/7/2025 10:40am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2025 10:45am
PNWMXer wrote:
Will’s “interview” of the Star Racing manager was ridiculous. She rambled at him for so long without asking an actual question that I was waiting for...

Will’s “interview” of the Star Racing manager was ridiculous. She rambled at him for so long without asking an actual question that I was waiting for DA McCoy from Law and Order to pop in and object, asking if there was a question coming…

Need a Jack McCoy meme. 

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4/7/2025 10:52am

I actually have to agree this time, that was the absolute worst SX broadcast I have ever seen. Split screens, no id of race leaders, wrong id of who was leading the races, even the transponders were not working properly. I get it, mx is niche sport at best, and it will never be as popular as baseball anyhow. I never have understood how baseball plays televised games to mostly empty stadiums, yet pays players big bucks, and the broadcast quality is generally decent. And in SX, we have a sport with killer athletes that work very hard to be the best. My hats off the riders for racing in that race though, once again you proven that skills and attitude matter a lot when it comes to racing motorcycles in truly shitty track conditions. I likely wouldn't have completed one damn lap.

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4/7/2025 10:55am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2025 10:57am

I'm not one to complain about the broadcast, nothing I can do about it, so no point in whining even though it is not great, but...

 

Leigh, for the love of god. Learn the rider's names. 

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4/7/2025 11:09am

I hate the split screen, they keep the tracker huge and the pictures of the racing are way to small. That and their horrible picture quality. 

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4/7/2025 11:11am

Webb literally jumped the finish line jump on screen and they didn’t even mention it.   He was clearly sending it we have no clue how he went 6th to 3rd.   Wild.   

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4/7/2025 11:19am
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I actually have to agree this time, that was the absolute worst SX broadcast I have ever seen. Split screens, no id of race leaders, wrong...

I actually have to agree this time, that was the absolute worst SX broadcast I have ever seen. Split screens, no id of race leaders, wrong id of who was leading the races, even the transponders were not working properly. I get it, mx is niche sport at best, and it will never be as popular as baseball anyhow. I never have understood how baseball plays televised games to mostly empty stadiums, yet pays players big bucks, and the broadcast quality is generally decent. And in SX, we have a sport with killer athletes that work very hard to be the best. My hats off the riders for racing in that race though, once again you proven that skills and attitude matter a lot when it comes to racing motorcycles in truly shitty track conditions. I likely wouldn't have completed one damn lap.

The broadcast could be better. We all know it. Coverage of our sport is the best it’s ever been but that has more to do with technological advances and not actually the product they are putting out.  When comparing it to other sports, you kind of know when something is about to happen in stick and ball sports.  In MX/SX you never really know. 

With that said, the broadcast was hot garbage this weekend. I will say it seems the riders weren’t helping the situation, as they finished they were all instantly celebrating on the track while others were still paddling around on the last lap. I think I even saw them trying to move equipment at the end while someone is belly flopping in a puddle.  It was chaotic.

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4/7/2025 11:28am

Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way, these same 25 communication geniuses can go right to "their" thread to bitch and moan about the previous broadcast. It'll be like their own little club. This would stop the numerous threads each week from popping up and wasting bandwidth. 

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MOTO13 wrote:
Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way...

Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way, these same 25 communication geniuses can go right to "their" thread to bitch and moan about the previous broadcast. It'll be like their own little club. This would stop the numerous threads each week from popping up and wasting bandwidth. 

Bandwidth, lol. Hey bud, time to join us in the 21st century and get some high speed broadband.

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4/7/2025 11:45am

Question- how did mookie make the main????????????????????

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MOTO13 wrote:
Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way...

Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way, these same 25 communication geniuses can go right to "their" thread to bitch and moan about the previous broadcast. It'll be like their own little club. This would stop the numerous threads each week from popping up and wasting bandwidth. 

Hey, here’s an idea. How about we get a new producer that understands the sport and while we at it get RC and LD out of the booth? That way we don’t have to bitch each week pointing out glaring issues that make the broadcast garbage.

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4/7/2025 12:03pm
MOTO13 wrote:
Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way...

Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way, these same 25 communication geniuses can go right to "their" thread to bitch and moan about the previous broadcast. It'll be like their own little club. This would stop the numerous threads each week from popping up and wasting bandwidth. 

It's good for the industry to see a regular stream of novel threads rather than just controlled opposition in a sticky. 

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4/7/2025 12:06pm
MOTO13 wrote:
Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way...

Hey, here's an idea. Why not just make a sticky about how horrrrrrribulll and gawd awful the commentary, Ricky, Leigh and broadcast is. See, this way, these same 25 communication geniuses can go right to "their" thread to bitch and moan about the previous broadcast. It'll be like their own little club. This would stop the numerous threads each week from popping up and wasting bandwidth. 

Bandwidth, lol. Hey bud, time to join us in the 21st century and get some high speed broadband.

Lol...it actually is. And aren't you the smart one for noticing. Here's a scoop bud...bandwidth has more than one meaning. 

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4/7/2025 12:09pm
ge217 wrote:
Anyone catch Diffy say Plessinger had never been on the podium as the are showing graphic is the background saying he has placed 3rd before? JT...

Anyone catch Diffy say Plessinger had never been on the podium as the are showing graphic is the background saying he has placed 3rd before? JT came in a little after and corrected him and the screen.

Time stamp 2hour 24min mark .

I caught that when he said it. I could feel my eyes bugging out!

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