Jeffrey Herlings to race American MX series?

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He posted 7 minutes ago "Happy with the news today" on his IG story.
3/11/2019 12:45pm
It would build both MXGP and MX Pro nationals.

It's good for the sport - win or lose - I wish fans could just appreciate that even the guy in 20th place is an incredible rider - and appreciate if a guy comes here to race - rather than compare if US is better. We clearly are NOT - but that doesn't mean a guy moving his life over here is a lock to win.


He will have a tough road ahead - I personally think just adjusting to the weekly grind and short 1 day program would be a massive adjustment. If you are having an off day - there is no sleep and regroup before the races like there is for the GP's.

Conversely - when villo went to europe - he was often fast in early laps of practice. But the euros closed the gap each time out.
This is something he wasn't used to doing - finding little improvements through the course of the weekend. Here in the USA, generally you are as good as you will be by final practice and the track is best it will be.
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Can't wait to see him in person at high point Laughing
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With herlings, moosecan, webb, bagget, Osborne, and Anderson, the Austrians could put their bikes on the podium at every round and posibbly sweep the podium multiple times. I bet Daveys licking his chops at the thought of Sir Jeffery gracing us with his presence.
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DoctorJD wrote:
The KTM rig with Herlings, Webb, and Musquin? Not gonna happen, but it would be reminiscent of the Honda superstar teams of the early 80's.
kb228 wrote:
What happens if webb beats herlings again tho
If that happened, he would no longer be Cooper Webb. He would be "Super Cooper" and would wear a cape. I can see Webb getting a lot of holeshots outdoors and giving Herlings fits at times, but beating Herlings outdoors on a 450? No. Maybe one day, but he aint there yet.
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The talk never stops, jeeeez I love to watch both Tomac and Herlings, and ofcourse I will always root for Herlings. But come on, the types...
The talk never stops, jeeeez

I love to watch both Tomac and Herlings, and ofcourse I will always root for Herlings. But come on, the types of arguments some of you guys have are pathetic

- Tomac showed he has elite speed with his GP wins, he also showed that even elite riders can crack under pressure. I saw it with my own eyes at Red Bud. That wasn't the Tomac at 100%. The entire country was watching him and he already had an entire year of pressure with SX, Outdoors, MXON and MEC the week later.
- Herlings wasn't the Herlings I know either, on friday we walked there and he looked ill, tired and not full of energy. Ofcourse he showed some special things, but I've seen him do the extraordinary in Valkenswaard, Lommel and several Dutch races
- Herlings lost to Forkner and Webb yes, he wasn't 100% there either as he just recovered from a broken collarbone and just won his 3th world title after years of injuries.
- Some of the AMA riders didn't have the results they were expected either. Reasons could be injuries, burnouts, pressure, i don't know but 1 bad race doesn't count for me. If you ride yourself you would've know

Some of the USA guys did really good at GP's and it's a good thing for them. I.e Hampshire got contract extension after that amazing performance. Grant showed his elite speed at Glen Helen (he also did that against Dungey and Roczen)

There are so many external factors many of you guys don't consider. It's all for the moment, for one race, every time on a different track. You just can't compare and just enjoy watching AMA vs GP now and then. Remember when Simpson went to Unadilla and got around 4th? Just amazing to watch. I love both series and won't compare either of them. The only thing I absolutely dislike is the fact that some of these riders don't get the respect they deserve. The unstoppable bashing of who's the GOAT, Cairoli or Carmichael and all that bullshit. They are all legends and should be threated that way. Bunch of kids most of you are Grinning
Great post! Should be the thread ender but it wont Wink
I don't think it could be said any better. There's no way to accuratly compare ama riders to GP riders, and they've each had success against the other at different times on different tracks. The outcome at times can be predicted (in deep sand or supercross style), but on most tracks it can go either way depending on who's "feeling it" or has their set up dialed in the best. The overall skill level of AMA and GP riders is very close and awesome to see. Period.
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Cortami79 wrote:
The talk never stops, jeeeez I love to watch both Tomac and Herlings, and ofcourse I will always root for Herlings. But come on, the types...
The talk never stops, jeeeez

I love to watch both Tomac and Herlings, and ofcourse I will always root for Herlings. But come on, the types of arguments some of you guys have are pathetic

- Tomac showed he has elite speed with his GP wins, he also showed that even elite riders can crack under pressure. I saw it with my own eyes at Red Bud. That wasn't the Tomac at 100%. The entire country was watching him and he already had an entire year of pressure with SX, Outdoors, MXON and MEC the week later.
- Herlings wasn't the Herlings I know either, on friday we walked there and he looked ill, tired and not full of energy. Ofcourse he showed some special things, but I've seen him do the extraordinary in Valkenswaard, Lommel and several Dutch races
- Herlings lost to Forkner and Webb yes, he wasn't 100% there either as he just recovered from a broken collarbone and just won his 3th world title after years of injuries.
- Some of the AMA riders didn't have the results they were expected either. Reasons could be injuries, burnouts, pressure, i don't know but 1 bad race doesn't count for me. If you ride yourself you would've know

Some of the USA guys did really good at GP's and it's a good thing for them. I.e Hampshire got contract extension after that amazing performance. Grant showed his elite speed at Glen Helen (he also did that against Dungey and Roczen)

There are so many external factors many of you guys don't consider. It's all for the moment, for one race, every time on a different track. You just can't compare and just enjoy watching AMA vs GP now and then. Remember when Simpson went to Unadilla and got around 4th? Just amazing to watch. I love both series and won't compare either of them. The only thing I absolutely dislike is the fact that some of these riders don't get the respect they deserve. The unstoppable bashing of who's the GOAT, Cairoli or Carmichael and all that bullshit. They are all legends and should be threated that way. Bunch of kids most of you are Grinning
Great post! Should be the thread ender but it wont Wink
Ranman68 wrote:
I don't think it could be said any better. There's no way to accuratly compare ama riders to GP riders, and they've each had success against...
I don't think it could be said any better. There's no way to accuratly compare ama riders to GP riders, and they've each had success against the other at different times on different tracks. The outcome at times can be predicted (in deep sand or supercross style), but on most tracks it can go either way depending on who's "feeling it" or has their set up dialed in the best. The overall skill level of AMA and GP riders is very close and awesome to see. Period.
Agree... I've repeatedly said they are closer than many guys here would like to think.

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Ranman68 wrote:
I don't think it could be said any better. There's no way to accuratly compare ama riders to GP riders, and they've each had success against...
I don't think it could be said any better. There's no way to accuratly compare ama riders to GP riders, and they've each had success against the other at different times on different tracks. The outcome at times can be predicted (in deep sand or supercross style), but on most tracks it can go either way depending on who's "feeling it" or has their set up dialed in the best. The overall skill level of AMA and GP riders is very close and awesome to see. Period.
best would be a series with 6 AMA tracks and 6 MXGP tracks ... but thats never going to happen
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3/12/2019 11:30am
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Herlings has finally done something truly amazing. He has displaced James as the biggest lighting rod on Vital. He should get a number 1 plate for...
Herlings has finally done something truly amazing. He has displaced James as the biggest lighting rod on Vital. He should get a number 1 plate for that.
No kidding!
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Another year, another Herlings to America pipe dream. Seems like the mxgp championship is a long shot at this point. 

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2/17/2025 4:12pm

Herlings to miss round 1 with a hang nail

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Maybe he could get out of his KTM contract and ride Jetts bike this summer.

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2/18/2025 11:42am

Herlings to miss round 1 with a hang nail

1st? He’ll miss at least four GP’s, maybe some more.

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The AMA Nationals would probably end his career. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

The AMA Nationals would probably end his career. 

Yeah, I know. Last time at Ironman it was such a challenge for him. 🤦‍♂️

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MOTO13 wrote:

The AMA Nationals would probably end his career. 

KurtJ99 wrote:

Yeah, I know. Last time at Ironman it was such a challenge for him. 🤦‍♂️

Almost 10 years and how many injuries ago?

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Maybe if sexton is injured...... that ktm will allow him to ride the nationals.....

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He should do both!

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MOTO13 wrote:

The AMA Nationals would probably end his career. 

KurtJ99 wrote:

Yeah, I know. Last time at Ironman it was such a challenge for him. 🤦‍♂️

zehn wrote:

Almost 10 years and how many injuries ago?

I'm not saying he would win the championship...but top three easy.....

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I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all the Nationals.

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MOTO13 wrote:
I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all...

I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all the Nationals.

We only have 11 nationals. MxGP season is what 21 or 23 races?  He has a better chance of finishing the USA series then mxgp. Although I don’t think there is any chance he comes here to race a full series. 

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MOTO13 wrote:
I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all...

I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all the Nationals.

Lol imagine telling the world that Herlings is a ‘top 7’ rider

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MOTO13 wrote:
I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all...

I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all the Nationals.

Once healthy and if he was at the same speed he was last year he'd be mixing it up with those guys and challenging for wins . I missed it though , what's the injury this time ? 

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2/18/2025 1:20pm

Sure would be cool to see. Feel like we have been close to many times. Like others I would say if he isnt full tilt by round 2 or 3 of the GP’s then it would make sense to heal more and come over for a summer. I truly dont think its up to him to make that call and with KTMs financial position Im not sure if they would house a 3rd 450 in the US. Everyone in the media likes to throw notes out there and try to create storylines that fire people up. The possibilities of him coming are high but the likelihood of it is low. Can you imagine the lineup for 2025 Outdoors. With Herlings, Tomac, Jett and Hunter, Prado, Sexton, Anderson, Barcia, Webb, Maybe some Roczen, Cooper, Ferrandis, Pautrel, Maybe some Cairolli. 

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MOTO13 wrote:
I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all...

I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all the Nationals.

soggy wrote:
We only have 11 nationals. MxGP season is what 21 or 23 races?  He has a better chance of finishing the USA series then mxgp. Although...

We only have 11 nationals. MxGP season is what 21 or 23 races?  He has a better chance of finishing the USA series then mxgp. Although I don’t think there is any chance he comes here to race a full series. 

20 GPs this year it looks like without MXoN.

1 Qualifying race on Saturday + 2 Races on Sunday X 20 GPs = 60 Races🥵

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2/18/2025 2:20pm
MOTO13 wrote:
I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all...

I'm not saying he's not still fast. With Tomac and Jett back, he'd make the top 5-7 maybe...but he's just not durable enough to make all the Nationals.

Not in the heat we have in the summer but he’s more than capable of winning some races 

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Probably 90% of us have said it or at least thought it a time or 2 every year for the last decade.  Herlings to AMA!!!

It would still be outstanding if it happened, even this late in his career.

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Jeff, its time.

Bullets, Jetts, Beasts, Bulls (Prado), Champs (sorry Chase I can't think of a beastlike nickname), sounds like quite the line up. 

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