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Congratulations. Wasn’t comparing your situation to his IQ/Decision making skills, but more so the head scratcher of how anyone can ride a bike a handful of times and come to the conclusion that they can’t ride it or get comfortable. I’ve yet to find a bike I don’t enjoy riding, other than a 2003 KTM 250SX.
I feel like I found a winning pull tab ticket when I find a used bike for sale by someone like this.
Thoughts between the two?
Ya the kid that bought my 23 with no hours paid $7400 with a FC setup and was gonna be his spare bike, was headed to Loretta’s. Think I paid $8900 otd for it.
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I've got a riding buddy that in the time I've known him has had a '22 Husky TC125 and '22 FC350. Both at the same time. Sold them and got a '22 FC 450. Sold that and got a '22 YZ250F. Sold that and got a '22 YZ450. While he had that he got a '23 KX250F. Got rid of the Kawi and got a '22 YZ125. Then he got a '24 YZ450 white edition. He's selling the two '22 Yamahas right now. Before he even does a lap on a bIke he puts on a complete FMF exhaust ssystem. He never does the suspension eexcept he had the forks on the '22 FC450 cconverted. He sold that bIke with 9hrs on it. It was so mint. I was close to buying it. We all just laugh and shake our heads at him. Nice guy and he's not a squid by any means. Its his money, have at it. None of those bIke probably saw more than 30hrs and they were all new when he bought them
If you can afford it more power to you. Nothing wrong with having nice things, all together still less than a boat…just makes me jealous 😝
As a Yami guy, I can sort of understand the complaints on the 19-20 250. That being said, I do think the 21-23 bike is much improved but yet most people don't give it enough credit or assume it's not any different. But the mix of cornering and stability is almost perfect for me. The new '24 YZF chassis has me on the fence (along with a couple other things I'm not sure that I'm wild about.) So that being said, the '25 Honda seems to have brought their bike somewhat back into the realm that I am looking for, with some more comfort and stability. So that bike is very intriguing to me now. Plus obviously Honda ergos are always top notch and the engine seems Yamaha-ish, so that is good. So I can fully understand wanting to explore that bike, for anyone who is sort of particular with chassis feel or just in general.
Some guys can find a setting and go on almost anything. I am 1 of those people that sort of knows the feel that I want and my goal is to try to get there and then mostly leave it alone. So if I can find that, then I stick with that bike for a while. If I can't then I start looking at what else might work better. So I just think everyone is different when it comes to that stuff. I think if you are totally dialed in and love your bike then I'd stay with it, as long as it's fresh or can be freshened up. But if there is a bike out there that really sounds like it offers something that you would really like, then I don't blame someone for switching. And I do think that for some people the '25 Honda chassis could bring some people over to red bike. It would be right at the top of my list if I were shopping right now or was not totally satisfied with my current bike.
Couldnt have said it better. Did you not like the 24? I really enjoy my 24 YZ250F, more so than my 14, 16 and 19. I really feel they did a good job on most of the complaints minus the stupid loud exhaust. I still dont feel its point and shoot or as airry feeling as my 17 CRF was but its better than the 23 CRF ten fold everywhere. Probably just gonna buy a 25 CRF and keep the one I like best.
I still haven't had the chance to try one. I was really wanting to get one but between some of the things in the reviews and also talking to a couple people with them (450 included) I just wasn't willing to give mine up to get a '24. And that was mainly because I have it dialed in, along with fixing the ergos (peg drop, higher bars, cycra plastic) and then ended up doing the Twisted dual injector. So it just didn't make sense for me. But I like Hondas too and I would almost need to try the '25 Honda and Yamaha both before I would get something, if I were shopping new bikes right now.
I was just kind of commenting on the conversation about if it makes sense to go to a new bike so early. I think everyone's situation is different. I don't think it would be silly to consider the new Honda, in your case. Just depends on what you like or don't like about the YZF and what it is you are looking for in the Honda. Or sometimes it's just that you want to try a new bike that comes out, which I totally get that. That's not my style but I do know people like that and to each his own.
This will give you some insight. I like Hondas and it is more fun to ride and more comfortable but I think the Yamaha is faster and has better suspension.
maybe you should also consider the new KX 😉
I always do my part, and everyone who buys my fresh bikes appreciates them.
No offense to my green team, but never a fan of the quality and characteristics of them, not to mention residual value.
As much as we are all voicing opinions on how you should spend your money, none of us really truly care.
Oh. Almost forgot I had something helpful to say.
That ‘25 CRF250 is the first 250f that has tempted me in a long, long time.
So, does anyone else have real feedback on the new Honda 250?
What’s everyone paying OTD on there 25 250r’s? I’m in Chicagoland and lowest quote I got was 9150 OTD on a standard
And 12k on a WE
I paid $8800 otd in ca for my wife’s. (I can’t remember exactly it coulda been 8700 or 8900 🤣)
As far as feedback, she’s got 7 hours on it now and I’ve got three full motos at three different tracks and it’s fucking with me bad! I love all bike types, but with that said 250f’s are the bottom of my like list. I race a 24, 300 SX and a 22 TC 125. Both bikes have kit suspension set up for me by Racetech with two rounds of tweaks to get it perfect. My wife’s Honda has completely changed my opinion of four strokes and 250f’s that I might consider getting myself a cr450. The suspension is damn close to my kit stuff, not as good for sure but not that fair off. Definitely could race Hangtown on this stuff stock, the handling of this thing is amazing, corners are confidence inspiring. The motor is way better than her 2019 fc250f. I recommend this bike to anyone looking!
my wife’s looks so much better on it and reports feeling way “safer” at speed compared to her husky.
Pit Row
I raced karts for a while and there was a guy whose son raced. They were forever changing chassis, engine prep companies etc because they "couldn't get on the pace". Nothing to do with the fact he was only 15 years old and weighed about 200 pounds..
First! Ya it would be nice to see real world experience on the 25!
second, just do what makes you happy, life’s to short not too!
My wife says I change bikes like I change underwear, lol, I’ve got a 22 kx450 only about 25 hrs, but this new crf250we, has me thinking I might want one!
What’s the difference between the two?I’m torn between the 25 cr250r or 25 yz250f im also considering the 25 CR WRE250r, I normally ride a rmz 250, that’s all I’ve ridden, thanks In advance for any feedback back
Cole see let told Matthes, he likes to put 5hrs on his race bike frame before taking it racing.
Does anyone know where I can find a 250WE or 450WE?
https://powersports.honda.com/search-inventory?segment=motorcycle
My son rode the new CRF 250 pretty recently and gave me some feedback. We are currently riding all of the 25 250's in anticipation of going to 250's full time at the end of this year. He has a '21 YZ250F, has ridden the '25 CRF, as well as the '25 YZF and he will ride the '25 KX within the next couple weeks. His background is GNCC, at 13 years old he was floating around in the high 20's low 30's overall in the adult morning race last year on a 125 and spends every weekend on a motocross track. Basically what he said was that the CRF feels good every where, and turns well. He said "I can definitely race the Honda, but I prefer the feel of the Yamaha". Thats probably because hes been riding a Yamaha since 2018 on a 65. I like the fact that he didnt hate the Honda, but i want to make sure that he ends up on the 250F that hes most comfortable on.
Honestly, for the situation you’re describing, the Honda might be a better choice. It is over 1 horsepower slower and down by a 1/2 ft/lb of torque compared to any other 2025 250. Slower bikes typically always handle better in my experience, and arm jerking horsepower is not necessarily a benefit in a 2+ hour off-road race.
I agree completely as long as chassis compliance is there, the KYB's are so hard to beat in the woods for 2 hours (3 next year). But to both of our points, thats why I am looking forward to him riding the KX. Based on what every review has said so far, it sounds like it will be almost impossible to beat for a woods bike. Easy to ride powerband, legendary Kawi ergos and chassis.
Kawi probably has the best contingency for GNCC, and you can usually get last years bike for really cheap.
Believe it or not, Kawi actually pays $300 to win B250 at our local hare scramble series.... thats another reason for leaning green. And yes the GNCC contingency is excellent
There’s a local kid here named Van Adams that has been crushing it in Kawi contingency in IXCR and GNCC.
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