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I wonder if R&D will be done in the US?
We just visited the facility a week ago. It’s all steam ahead there for both two and four wheel development.
Huh, small world. Never knew you were from Chippewa!
Yep we had a meeting with them on Friday and nothing is changing other than the plant closing.
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Will there be a 200% "John Deer" tax on the tires?.
Yep, I want to say it came up before under my old account but that was probably 10 years ago.
Hope they like a 20% tariff….
It’s coming
They will pass the 20% on to consumers.
Tariffs are another sweet tax on the common people.
Broke ass government and banks.
They won't be paying it, you will, the consumer.
Support local tire manufacturers? Sorry bro, fresh outta those.
They said there will be zero pricing changes. They already produced most of their tires in other factories around the world and just moved the US production to those existing factories. If anything they will be making them cheaper and will just be more profitable but that’s my assumption, they didn’t say anything about that.
I mean that's not just an assumption, that's a very reasonable analysis. If they weren't more profitable for the change, they would not make it.
Not if customers quit buying the product....
just red a news about Michelin doing same in France and less production at other facilities too.....to much energy costs in Europe
When Levi's were made in the US they weren't ever $150 so no we don't . It's just corporate greed is all
Why would the American motocross community stop buying Dunlop (which doesn't produce American offroad tires anyways) to put on their Japanese/Austrian motorcycles?
I mean, I guess there might be some Alta purists out there?
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People buy on price, the cheaper alternative will still not be made in the US.
If Levi started making jeans here, they'd be 350 dollar pants. If Fly brought production to the US, their cheap pant would be 400 bucks.
Sure, corporate greed takes a bit of blame, but the American wage pushes it over the top.
No denim guys here ready to pitch a fit? I guarantee Levi's had a line of jeans for over 150$ when they were made here.
Maybe their really high end but the regular jeans were 35 bucks in 03 . So when they started making them out of US why didn't the price drop ?
False. 100 was the standard for US Levi’s starting in the 90s. 20-60 would (and will) buy you some overseas Faded glory’s, Lees, Rustlers, Levi signatures, or even Levi Branded imports
AM Motocross, made in USA, quality is as good or better than Fly, pants are $150-$200.
No they won't. That common idea on passing the buck onto the consumer only works when the tarrif is very low. 20% or more will cause them to have product sitting far longer then they would like with added costs and loss to them for it just sitting. That's the power of properly done tariffs.
The whole idea is to even out the costs of letting low paying, low skill manufacturing of cheap products go over seas while being able to keep a minimum amount of that section of manufacturing here. All while keeping mid to highly skilled manufacturing humming along with out losing it to slave labor over seas. Problem is there will always be a politician or a group of them from both sides that will take the bribe/lobbying money and fuck us and the workers over.
Dunlop will import the tires from one of their overseas factories, pay the 20% tariff to US Customs, add that tariff to their local costs (local storage, shipping, profit, etc) and charge a higher price than previously. The price increase will be less than 20%, but their will be a price increase.
Dunlop closed their factory because they could not make a profit manufacturing locally, when Dunlop increases it's prices, Dunlop's local competitors will increase their own prices to maintain market share, they may even become profitable.
The higher prices may make it profitable to manufacture tires in the US, but local factories do not have significant excess capacity, it will take years to expand capacity, meanwhile consumers pay more. Companies will have to make a judgment call if the tariff will stay in place with a future administration, before deciding to invest in new local manufacturing capacity, bipartisan support for the tariffs would make the decision easy.
Again, I have talked to Dunlop about this and there will be no increases in the foreseeable future. Not to mention the tires that people on this site would be buying (Geomax line) have never been produced in the US.
That’s about what they cost in Australia (in A$)
And they are still made in China.
We are ripped off badly in OZ
Welp luckily there are still options for US made tires. Hoosier got into the mx tire business a few years ago and as a US company their tires are made at their plymouth indiana continental plant. From the reviews I remember watching on them they seemed to be pretty good and for the ppl excited about the factory spec dunlops apparently hoosier has been selling factory spec tires from day 1. Then you have michelin which is a french brand but they have tire factories in 6 us states. Bridgestone is a japanese company but they also have factories in 9 different cities. So at least theres still some options to buy US made tires.
Canvas is made in the US too. Actually Michael leib did an entire podcast talking about the production and how he was able to make it work here and how he makes gear for some other companies as well. Was a pretty good listen.
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