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Totally agree. This isn’t 1995, people don’t just flip channels to see what’s on. They watch what they want to watch. I’d say less than .1% of the viewers every week are new. To cater at all to those viewers is pretty dumb IMO. They need to go further down the rabbit hole and get super nerdy about setup, technique, contracts, etc so people become super fans. Super fans drag their buddies to races or have them over to watch races and then explain to them the basics.
I agree, streaming has pretty much eliminated the chance of anyone stumbling across it. Not to mention it's so complicated to understand for a non fan to understand why they are riding around in races that don't count for points or money..and why there are two classes.
Racing is too long and there isn't enough parody in the sport to make it entertaining for someone who isn't an avid fan.
Well....what could have been a good thread is gonna get drug down the toilet by the broadcast bashers.... if only there were 1,000 other threads complaining about the broadcast ya'll could go whine about it in.
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Who is Chris Betts? Did a search and found baseball player, etc., but no moto.
Baseball player, AC superfan
Sorry, didn't mean to "broadcast bash". My point was AC's bizarre claim their is no absolutes, very few good or bads, just opinions.
Yeah my fault as well lol. Like the other guy, I just found AC's take on it pretty out of character for him, he's usually open to opposing opinions and is respectful.
Well that's pretty cool. Couldn't help but notice many ball and stick references. Makes more sense now. Thanks Zook
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His point was just because some don't like it others do, it's all just opinions. Personally I don't mind the broadcast, some people talk differently than others. People pile it on RC and the English trackside reporter, but none of it bothers me.
Exactly. Either AC can't recognize how bad RC and the broadcast in general is, or he knows which side his bread is buttered and is sucking up to RC and his new employers. As it's clearly the case AC is far from stupid it must be the latter.
While I'm here I should add the whole Gypsy Ho podcast was an excruciatingly bad listen. Gypsy Ho's obsessions with growing the sport, the mythical Netflix 'series' he's always banging on about, and rider's salaries, are tiresome. He just doesn't have the education of sophistication or subtly of other non-moto podcast hosts. At least Matthes knows his lane and sticks to it.
Why is it every time you disagree with someone you just resort to name calling?
I've said this before, but is the broadcast team with their 'new casual viewer' bullshit unaware there is an invention called the internet? The broadcast team should aim for accurately describing the action on the track and the subtleties of the sport - technique, bike set up, line selection etc. If the odd hillbilly stumbles across the broadcast they can search for extra information on anything they haven't understood, they don't need a fellow semi literate hillbilly called RC to try and simplify things for them. As we know it only makes matters worse.
Maybe when you turn on the broadcast they can give you an option
A. I’ve never heard of motoRcross
B. I watch the occasional motocross race
C. I watch every race religiously
Depending on which one you select, you get a different broadcast team
This thread really went down the shitter quick 💩😅
I think you can grant that there are very few absolutes without that implying that there are very few things that can be legitimately called good or bad. Surely there can be better and worse opinions. You can, after all, have reasons for your opinions. It is my opinion that RC isn't a particularly good commentator and it's more than a matter of me simply not liking what he says. It's got little to do with that. It's generally expected that a commentator should be articulate and interesting. That's not an absolute. How could it be? It's not like it's the sort of thing that could be woven into the fabric of the universe. But it's generally expected - and for good reason: Given that communication is the whole point of the job, if he's not communicating well, he's not doing his job well. There are industry standards for jobs, and the fact that meeting those standards is more of an art than a science doesn't mean there's no basis whatsoever for evaluation. If there was not basis at all for evaluation, we could put a chimpanzee on and then when someone complains, just shrug and say, "well, that's just your opinion". That's obviously absurd, but that's kind of the point.
Back on topic guys……
Sounds like I differ from most, because as long as they’re being paid well, I have absolutely zero interest in how much money pro racers are making.
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Man, imagine what Jason made in '22 with 7 SX wins and an overall in MX.
Was an informative clip. Good for hahn making 300k when he was at the tail end of his racing career, wanted to hear him talk about dealing with the air fork that year.
To the other guys implying AC and Hahn were overpaid on those contracts, just pay attention to the fact neither of them would badmouth Kawi, even when prodded...not a coincidence.
Hard to find anyone with a bad thing to say about either of those guys.
Ac was supposed to be the golden boy. Unfortunately his health did not allow it. 1.8 was a really good deal. Fox helped alot. I would not have believed when he signed that contract he would never win a 450sx race. Kawi must have felt the same. Probably considerably higher then other 450 second fiddles maybe double.
Your spot on. I did both and enjoyed both
Jfc while we are talking about comparing stick and ball sports to moto, have you listened to an NFL or NBA broadcast lately? Please tell how Joe Buck adds insight to the game? Aikman? Every listen to the shit that comes out of Tirico's mouth? Mute the sound and turn on some music if you wanna sit through that!
Moto broadcast isn't perfect by any means but I've never thought about muting it.
Now, if you want a broadcast that gets it right more times than not, I'd suggest hockey imho
Cooksey…. Is that you? 😂😂😂 Jk
Not only have I not listed to an NFL or NBA game lately, I’ve never listened to one so I’ll take your word for it. Now hockey is a game I’ve watched a lot and I agree, there’s excellent commentary. I watch the Blue Jays too and I think Buck Martinez does a great job (I don’t know if he does any work in the U.S). Whatever you think Joe Rogan, his UFC commentary is quite good i think. RC isn’t as awful as some make him out to be but he’s certainly not very good.
It doesn’t make sense that the 450 class is paid way more than the 250 class. When the 450 class has the worse racing. 450,s just don’t hv good racing even with Chase & Eli 2 yrs ago . The battle s where on the boring side. I think the 450 class should hv a cap of 1 mil. Kick some money to the 250 class and add a 125 emx but hv a pro purse. Pro ams should hv a 100k purse not 3k. How r new pro riders supposed to afford to race. I get the top 8 riders getting the big bucks to say you can make ovr a mil racing. But they usually keep it a secret anyway.
I wasn't singling you out sorry if it seemed that was and I agree with you
Opinions like the fact that you think the claim is bizarre?
I find him spot on, which is evidence for why dealing in absolutes is silly.
Point taken, but in my world there are many absolutes. Night/day, mom/dad, Pacific/Atlantic, hot/cold, infinitum.....
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