"I used to train with Levi, I knew he would fade"

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dhp_mma94 wrote:
that’s not the issue , the issue is ( to be specifically clear its not just moto its really sports fans in general ) its very...

that’s not the issue , the issue is ( to be specifically clear its not just moto its really sports fans in general ) its very hypocritical of fans to criticize & bitch bout athletes need to have personality & stop being politically corporately correct and then when somebody gives u some personality… in this case deegs who’s cocky & brashy , fans still bitch & whine , I always say some sports fans are just dumb cause u really don’t kno wht u want in a athlete

Or maybe you’re generalizing and there not the same people.  You see someone could not like the way deegan talks in interviews and complain about it. Quite seperately someone else could love it. I know this type of nuance is hard for some to comprehend. 

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I don’t see what was wrong with what he said. Kitchen has definitely improved and I think Deegan is going to rethink that statement as the...

I don’t see what was wrong with what he said. Kitchen has definitely improved and I think Deegan is going to rethink that statement as the series goes on. These two were the class of the field today. 

But did he actually fade? Go look at the lap charts. Kitchen did 2:27s the whole moto until the lap 14 of 15. I wouldn’t call that “fading”. 

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WFO Dave wrote:
I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out...

I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out Levi IMO.

dhp_mma94 wrote:
ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other...

ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other all the time , yal can’t have it both ways now 

I've never criticized anyone for being a robot but theres pretty clear evidence that being humble gets you more fans and that might translate to sponsors.

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decano51 wrote:

Deegan just the modern day Barcia.

think back to Barcia on a 250 and it was the same attitude and riding style 

He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well indoors. Which is a little crazy since he's probably been riding sx tracks since he was on 65s. 

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He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well...

He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well indoors. Which is a little crazy since he's probably been riding sx tracks since he was on 65s. 

As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing something and practicing it. MX comes more natural to him because he’s known how to race it for so long, SX took a little bit for him to figure out because he wasn’t used to mini race days at the practice track like they do at star. 

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My favorite part of the whole situation is there are people who think he did what he did yesterday because he grew up with money LoL.

I can assure you money played a huge role in him getting where he is today. I agree that he still has to have the talent, the discipline and the drive to win...and he has all of that. BUT, there are lots of talented kids who will never have access to what he had to help get him where he is. That is also NOT why he isn't liked by some (or many). That has literally nothing to do with it. It is because of his personality, his comments on and off the podium. Eli Tomac had access to all that Deegan did, he won right away as well, he did NOT act like Deegan though. Same scenario, two very different outcomes as far as class and personality are concerned. Eli Tomac is a class act. A professional in all aspects of the term. 

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WFO Dave wrote:
I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out...

I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out Levi IMO.

dhp_mma94 wrote:
ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other...

ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other all the time , yal can’t have it both ways now 

WFO Dave wrote:

I've never criticized anyone for being a robot but theres pretty clear evidence that being humble gets you more fans and that might translate to sponsors.

Like The Rock, or Schwarzenegger, or Conor McGregor?

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My favorite part of the whole situation is there are people who think he did what he did yesterday because he grew up with money LoL.

PB729 wrote:
I can assure you money played a huge role in him getting where he is today. I agree that he still has to have the talent...

I can assure you money played a huge role in him getting where he is today. I agree that he still has to have the talent, the discipline and the drive to win...and he has all of that. BUT, there are lots of talented kids who will never have access to what he had to help get him where he is. That is also NOT why he isn't liked by some (or many). That has literally nothing to do with it. It is because of his personality, his comments on and off the podium. Eli Tomac had access to all that Deegan did, he won right away as well, he did NOT act like Deegan though. Same scenario, two very different outcomes as far as class and personality are concerned. Eli Tomac is a class act. A professional in all aspects of the term. 

Nobody was free to speak their mind In the sport though. I think we'll start seeing more of these guys breaking away from the corporate gag orders.

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WFO Dave wrote:
I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out...

I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out Levi IMO.

dhp_mma94 wrote:
ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other...

ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other all the time , yal can’t have it both ways now 

WFO Dave wrote:

I've never criticized anyone for being a robot but theres pretty clear evidence that being humble gets you more fans and that might translate to sponsors.

if u watch a lot of boxing & ufc like I do u would kno being humble will get u no where nowadays lol , errybody is taking the Conor mcgregor route , u kno why 🤔 because in this generation thts marketable , I don’t agree with it but it’s just the way it is , instead of getting a rightful deserved title shot thru fighter rankings , u have to talk ur way into getting a title shot 

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I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving it.  He will print this in big bold letters and frame it for Training camp for next season.  He’s going to have Levi fucking ready, fitness wise, like you have never seen him for 2025.

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He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well...

He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well indoors. Which is a little crazy since he's probably been riding sx tracks since he was on 65s. 

As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing...

As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing something and practicing it. MX comes more natural to him because he’s known how to race it for so long, SX took a little bit for him to figure out because he wasn’t used to mini race days at the practice track like they do at star. 

He's awesome and he lives up to the hype, imo. He gets flack for having all the advantages in life but I think he's been so good, so quickly in his career from hard word. He had all those advantages AND he outworked his competition. I don't see him ever beating Jett when he moves up because he can't just outwork him. Jett is the the highest level of talent plus hard work

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5/26/2024 8:43am Edited Date/Time 5/26/2024 8:48am

Get on the podium and you guys can talk all the shit you want on him - or keep making these great threads on the forum. Need some entertainment from the peanut gallery...

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5/26/2024 8:45am
He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well...

He looks so much like Barcia 2.0 to me. How can you not see it? He's really fun to watch outdoors. He doesn't flow as well indoors. Which is a little crazy since he's probably been riding sx tracks since he was on 65s. 

As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing...

As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing something and practicing it. MX comes more natural to him because he’s known how to race it for so long, SX took a little bit for him to figure out because he wasn’t used to mini race days at the practice track like they do at star. 

He's awesome and he lives up to the hype, imo. He gets flack for having all the advantages in life but I think he's been so...

He's awesome and he lives up to the hype, imo. He gets flack for having all the advantages in life but I think he's been so good, so quickly in his career from hard word. He had all those advantages AND he outworked his competition. I don't see him ever beating Jett when he moves up because he can't just outwork him. Jett is the the highest level of talent plus hard work

Yeah, this season and future seasons will be exciting, at some point during one of the 250 motos, i kept saying why is he so patient and not going all out. He has improved massively since last year, and will only keep getting better on track, off track, and interviews.

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As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing...

As he said in an interview, he raced outdoors since he was little, but rode sx since he was a little. There’s a difference between racing something and practicing it. MX comes more natural to him because he’s known how to race it for so long, SX took a little bit for him to figure out because he wasn’t used to mini race days at the practice track like they do at star. 

He's awesome and he lives up to the hype, imo. He gets flack for having all the advantages in life but I think he's been so...

He's awesome and he lives up to the hype, imo. He gets flack for having all the advantages in life but I think he's been so good, so quickly in his career from hard word. He had all those advantages AND he outworked his competition. I don't see him ever beating Jett when he moves up because he can't just outwork him. Jett is the the highest level of talent plus hard work

Yeah, this season and future seasons will be exciting, at some point during one of the 250 motos, i kept saying why is he so patient...

Yeah, this season and future seasons will be exciting, at some point during one of the 250 motos, i kept saying why is he so patient and not going all out. He has improved massively since last year, and will only keep getting better on track, off track, and interviews.

The rich boy tag gets thrown at him. But frankly it shows how much he takes this seriously that he didn't rest on his laurels and mail it in. Not to pile on Evan Ferry but just look at the flip side of a similar situation and what Evan has made with all the advantages 

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Another unnecessary statement from Deegan that shows he’s a punk in my opinion.  If you think your that great, let the riding do the talking.   I’d bet/hope it just motivates Levi.

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Sparling wrote:

Glad to see Brian raised his kid to not be soft like a lot of people these days Jesus 

I've known lots of people that were "hard" or "core" in my 67 years, 99.9% of them didn't need a mouth like Deegan to prove it. 

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The rich boy tag gets thrown at him. But frankly it shows how much he takes this seriously that he didn't rest on his laurels and...

The rich boy tag gets thrown at him. But frankly it shows how much he takes this seriously that he didn't rest on his laurels and mail it in. Not to pile on Evan Ferry but just look at the flip side of a similar situation and what Evan has made with all the advantages 

Agreed

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Shred wrote:
I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving...

I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving it.  He will print this in big bold letters and frame it for Training camp for next season.  He’s going to have Levi fucking ready, fitness wise, like you have never seen him for 2025.

Probably on his night stand beside the picture of RJ holding up the sx trophy

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5/26/2024 9:06am
WFO Dave wrote:
I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out...

I guess it's part of the game but I think letting your racing do the talking would be better. There was zero upside to calling out Levi IMO.

dhp_mma94 wrote:
ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other...

ppl criticized dunge & RV for being robots , ppl criticizing deegs for talking smack to a competitor when all athletes talk shit to each other all the time , yal can’t have it both ways now 

That’s a fair point.

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5/26/2024 9:08am
Shred wrote:
I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving...

I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving it.  He will print this in big bold letters and frame it for Training camp for next season.  He’s going to have Levi fucking ready, fitness wise, like you have never seen him for 2025.

Haaa 1/2 way thru this season, oh yeah watch out next yr lol

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Shred wrote:
I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving...

I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving it.  He will print this in big bold letters and frame it for Training camp for next season.  He’s going to have Levi fucking ready, fitness wise, like you have never seen him for 2025.

Haaa 1/2 way thru this season, oh yeah watch out next yr lol

That’s a naive comment if you know fitness and the fact Levi is fit…and fast as hell….but… He can just be more fit and not so skinny.  It's because once the season starts….you are where you are for your base fitness and you can’t do much to change it mid season.  The off season/training camp is where you make big progress and make deposits in your fitness account to get through the season.  If you listen to PP talk about his athletes…. Chase = totally motivated and almost too fit.  Tom = no way a 55 year old (triathlete) is beating me up this hill(needs to be reigned in to keep target heart rates).  Levi = needs motivation to work his heart rate up and to try to gain some weight for the season fitness bank account.  This will help PP for that motivation….and I say next year because that’s when this will be most useful…not because he can’t win this season.  He will beat Deegan some this year.  The title will go to the one that has the most tracks that favor that rider.  I would not bet against Levi…but did pick Deegan for Pala in my fantasy picks.  That track favored Deegan.  It going to be a good season to watch.

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5/26/2024 9:42am Edited Date/Time 5/26/2024 9:42am
Shred wrote:
I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving...

I think it makes Deegan look stupid and obnoxious when he talks like that, but regardless of what you think of the comment….Peter Park is loving it.  He will print this in big bold letters and frame it for Training camp for next season.  He’s going to have Levi fucking ready, fitness wise, like you have never seen him for 2025.

Haaa 1/2 way thru this season, oh yeah watch out next yr lol

Shred wrote:
That’s a naive comment if you know fitness and the fact Levi is fit…and fast as hell….but… He can just be more fit and not so...

That’s a naive comment if you know fitness and the fact Levi is fit…and fast as hell….but… He can just be more fit and not so skinny.  It's because once the season starts….you are where you are for your base fitness and you can’t do much to change it mid season.  The off season/training camp is where you make big progress and make deposits in your fitness account to get through the season.  If you listen to PP talk about his athletes…. Chase = totally motivated and almost too fit.  Tom = no way a 55 year old (triathlete) is beating me up this hill(needs to be reigned in to keep target heart rates).  Levi = needs motivation to work his heart rate up and to try to gain some weight for the season fitness bank account.  This will help PP for that motivation….and I say next year because that’s when this will be most useful…not because he can’t win this season.  He will beat Deegan some this year.  The title will go to the one that has the most tracks that favor that rider.  I would not bet against Levi…but did pick Deegan for Pala in my fantasy picks.  That track favored Deegan.  It going to be a good season to watch.

I watched the same gypsy tales podcast.

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Deegan cut the track 3 times today and only passed Levi because of a freak incident in moto 1

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You realize a 2-1 he still would have won the over all. Freak incidents all the time. Everyone has their turn for freak incidents... By the...

You realize a 2-1 he still would have won the over all. Freak incidents all the time. Everyone has their turn for freak incidents... By the way Im routing for Kitchen.. 

Do you realize if the AMA was consistent then Deegan would've been docked a position in moto 2 and Levi would win the overall with 2-1 scores?

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Its only talking shit when you cant back it up. Cool

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decano51 wrote:

Deegan just the modern day Barcia.

think back to Barcia on a 250 and it was the same attitude and riding style 

yod292 wrote:

Think he’s a bit better outdoor rider than Barcia. 

toroP wrote:

You should watch early 250 Barcia. 

Yea I was around for it and he was vicious. But I am not sure barcia ever had a single 1-1. 
 

I think barcia won Southwick in 2009 with crazy weather and didn’t win another national again until 2012 at Lakewood with like a 1-3. I think maybe he won one more national at budds creek? 

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Talk all the shit you want.

Block pass/take out people all day.

But when someone puts your ass in the cheap seats you’d better not say a word.

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I’m here for the drama. 

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JJO741 wrote:
I don’t see what was wrong with what he said. Kitchen has definitely improved and I think Deegan is going to rethink that statement as the...

I don’t see what was wrong with what he said. Kitchen has definitely improved and I think Deegan is going to rethink that statement as the series goes on. These two were the class of the field today. 

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But did he actually fade? Go look at the lap charts. Kitchen did 2:27s the whole moto until the lap 14 of 15. I wouldn’t call...

But did he actually fade? Go look at the lap charts. Kitchen did 2:27s the whole moto until the lap 14 of 15. I wouldn’t call that “fading”. 

He was referencing Kitchen’s time at Star Yamaha. 

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5/26/2024 12:36pm

Glad to see personality.

 

So many robots "*boop beep*... my tires hooked up...*beep boop boop*...can't thank beep beep* enough....*beeeeeep boop* ...."

 

Bob Hannah is ROFL somewhere...

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5/26/2024 12:40pm

I love all the butthurt in this forum over this lol. Deegan has a little Bob Hannah in him evidently because that's the kind of shit that Bob and Keith would have pulled back in the day, I love it personally Smile

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