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i had to get off that and i'm on amolodapine and losarton htz.
losinopril side effects were horrible for me so much better now. i can't believe i took it for so long not realizing it was the cause of a lot of shit i dealt with.
Try breathing exercises, some form of guided meditation or yoga nidra can also help a lot.
THIS….
what have you guys decided was a high enough blood pressure that you needed to take medicine for the rest of your life ?
I realize that some people have no choice and some have tried to get it down without taking meds. But what BP is too high to ignore ?
In general, persistently elevated BPs >130/80 is hypertension.
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So I average 138/78. I vary between 132/75 and 143/80
I’ve always ran a little elevated, but I just don’t want to get into taking meds for the rest of my life.
I had the treadmill stress test last year and also had the CT Scan of my arteries.
This was during Covid, so even though I had tested negative 3 days in a row, I was still required to wear a mask while running on the treadmill. Not cool… They had 2-masks and a face shield on, but were like Nazis about my mask being sealed against my face.
Anyways, my blood pressure at peak was high, but I attribute some of that to the mask I had on. Everything else was all positive.
I had a number 2 on my ct scan.
1- in two separate areas, which I was happy to see.
Am I pushing it ?
The only positive I can find from having cancer is that I have a contrast CT scan every 3 months that so far indicates only minimal blockage (and so far no reoccurrence of cancer). My dad’s 3 brothers all had heart attacks and bypass surgery or stents and my dad had his bypass before the inevitable heart attack.
lisinopril is in a class of drugs known as ACE inhibitors(angiotensin converting enzyme), they work by preventing the conversion of angiotensin to angiotensin2, angio2 causes blood vessel constriction(increasing your BP), and also inhibits aldosterone(which causes you to pee out more sodium and water).
Basically, you are more susceptible to dehydration, which could be contributing to your symptoms, and also your BP naturally increases in high energy sports, and this drug is reducing the bodies ability to do that so your body might be slightly dehydrated at baseline and is also not getting the blood pressure it wants during the activity, which in turn makes you feel like shit.
Its well documented that people can experience exercise intolerance when first starting drugs in this class(ace inhibitors)
"Lisinopril, a blood pressure medication, can cause dizziness, lightheadedness, or fainting, especially when you first start taking it or after increasing your dose. When starting lisinopril, you should try lower intensity workouts, like walking, and be careful when changing positions. Standing up too quickly after exercising or lying down can cause orthostatic hypotension, which can make you feel dizzy and headachy and increase your risk of falling"
I would try drinking more salt/water before your riding sessions, and maybe decrease the intensity at which you are riding until your body adapts. also working out during the week can help increase this tolerance.
Be careful taking the "electrolyte" supplements with excess potassium as ACE inhibitors cause you to retain potassium and to much is a bad thing.
Lastly talk to your doc and let him know about the exercise intolerance and see if there is another drug with less predisposition to cause that. Drugs should improve your lifestyle not limit it. Best of luck
the diagnosis of chronic hypertension cant be diagnosed from a single reading or even a few readings in one setting(generally speaking) Usually BP is trended over 6-8 weeks at various times of days, during and not during activity, etc. your levels are slightly elevated which over time will most likely only get worse but arent so concering that you would need to be placed on medication right away. Zone 2 cardio, diet change, and even slight weight loss(5-15lbs) can drastically improve BP readings. Most people arent willing to do any of those things (because we are fat lazy americans)which is why they get put on pills right away, because hypertension left untreated can kill you EVENTUALLY.
Talk with your doc about trending your BP, what lifestyle/diet changes you can make and stick too, and then reassess
Good points guys, I think I will be monitoring myself more the next time I ride. I did have an instance a few weeks ago where I tried to run a full sprint moto. I came off of the track and handed the bike to my kid and went and sit in the shade trying to catch my breath. After all of this conversation I am going to definitely consider that my meds may have had more to do with it than I thought.
Same here. I got the lisinopril cough. I called my doc and was told to stop lisinopril immediately and was put on losartan with no ill affects.
My HBP surfaced out of no where at about 50 years old. I was dizzy at work and felt like sheet! Went to the ER and it was 170 something over something. Here take these said the Drug Dealer.
I started reading and asking questions. No it does not run in the family. What is the root cause- the Drug Dealers said it hard to point to any specific issue – what??
I asked for the Treadmill test and the Gate Keepers said no. Finally went to a cardiologist and explained what I do as a hobby and that overall I’m in great shape.
Boom on the treadmill, after 20 minutes the tech asked me why I was here taking the test😊 I answered – too hear you ask that question.
Back to research, the blood system (IMO) is a pump and piping with a meter on it. The BP Drugs fk with something, does it mask the symptoms or the meter?
Back to pump and piping. The piping can age, get less flexible and thus the feedback to the meter make the meter rise and then the body reacts?
What causes the piping to age? Heredity? Poor Diet? Alcohol? Food full of poison? All?
Over the years I tolerated the HBP pills. I worked on my diet and quite alcohol. But my body was addicted to the FHBP!
Thus my effort to deny the Effen Drug Dealers aka BIG PHARMA any more of my energy.
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Instead of calling the medical personal "drug dealers" that YOU went to see for help how about saying thank you to them for helping you. Kind of low class way of acting to people who helped you.
All good information. Thank you. I've been taking it for well over a year maybe 2, maybe a little longer than that with no improvement of lets call it exercise intolerance. Tried all kinds of hydration, taking in the morning vs at night, etc with no improvement. Still can't do anything that takes any semi significant effort for very long. Sounds like it's definitely time to try something else. Have an appt later this afternoon wish me luck.
They are drug dealers
and it is a shame that they have assumed that role!
Yes I went to them for help and such is life.
Since then, I do my best to stay away from drug dealers!
Choices always choices
Based on the BP's you listed, I'd say you need to do something to bring those down. I'm sure you feel perfectly fine but those type of readings being consistent over an extended period of time can result in atherosclerosis which can lead to a much higher risk of heart attack. Being hard on your kidney's is another biggie. There's a reason they call HBP the silent killer...it can lead to a number of issues that can be very serious.
And you have show why you are a condescending asshole, next time stay home and have a stroke.
There’s no way I’d begin using a daily prescription med for those average numbers. The medical community has consistently lowered the pre-hypertension and hypertension numbers with a combination of legitimate health reasons and prescription drug profit as a driver. Look up what the acceptable blood pressure was 40-50 years ago and also when it was recently revised even lower. Obviously the standard 120/60 is something to strive for but a 45-60 year old male shouldn’t be deathly afraid of 135/75.
As you get older then those numbers are not bad at all. Mine when I went to the hospital was in the 190s and up.With the meds and changing diet now I am in the low 130s and even 120/90 at times, but if I don't take meds its back up into the 160s and 170s and that's with a good diet and exercise and everything I need to do but I will have to stay on meds. High blood pressure is called the silent killer for a reason.
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I've never heard that. I'm in nursing and the two biggest side effects are angioedema (swelling of lips/mouth/face area) and a hacking cough. I was on Lisinopril for years and then the angioedema got me (very mildly, I though it was the new dick pills I had started. Lol whew). I'm also the only white person I've every seen with angio from Lisinopril. It's almost always Africans Americans.
But my Dr changed me to amlodipine and it's been great since and it's usually the one I see them change everyone two if the develope the allergy to it.
Ask you Dr to try that maybe? If you are on multiple meds for bp I'm not sure what to tell you. Just ask your Dr. There are a TON on BP medications.
Let me +1 the Amlodipine for a couple of reasons... I am 51, also with a family history of hypertension. Add to that 32 years of stress in a law enforcement career, and currently a Police Chief (the absolute pinnacle of 'high stress').
From doing my own due-diligence research when I was first prescribed... Amlodipine works a little differently than other classes of BP meds by simply controlling the absorption of calcium. It is also reported that-that in addition to lowering BP, Amlodipine can also simultaneously increase blood/oxygen flow and distribution. I haven't raced moto in almost 20 years, but I still ride respectable speed for a guy my age and I am also a semi-professional drummer (which is more aerobic and physically demanding than most realize). Just like arm pump on the track, drummers can suffer cramps from lack of oxygen (intermittent breathing), and age doesnt help. I won't pretend to be a doctor, so this is a cut-n-paste from Mayo-Clinic.org:
"...Amlodipine is a calcium channel blocker. It works by affecting the movement of calcium into the cells of the heart and blood vessels. This relaxes the blood vessels and lowers blood pressure, and increases the supply of blood and oxygen to the heart while reducing its workload".
I have been on Amlodipine since December and it has worked extremely well for me with a consistent 110/70'ish resting BP. On a side note, I also have not noticed any negative male performance side effects like some BP meds can cause. In fact; (I did not read this anywhere...just my own .02), but by increasing blood flow, it would seem that could actually lend to more positive performance effects in that category.
I’ll be 58 in October. My family Dr isn’t worried about me getting on meds to control my HBP, but he would like me to lose 15-20 pounds. I lost 65 a few years ago and was in great shape. I let 30 back on, which pisses me off, but I’m going to get back under 200 again, I definitely felt way better and my BP was in the 120/72 range on an average. Once I’m in the groove of eating healthier and riding my bicycle, it becomes a challenge to myself and I get serious.
I’ve had readings in the 150’s and 160’s over 85, but I was in a lot of pain and stressed out. I’d be happy if I could get it down to 130/75, which is my goal and challenge that I’m going to create.
I’ll have to look into that, in case I have to take something one day. I dread the thought of dealing with side effects from medications…
on a side note-
Charlie Beck has been a long time rider within my circle of friends. When he got hurt and was on the news with crutches, he crashed out in our riding area.
We have a land owners group with a few hundred owners and tens of thousands of acres. Haven’t seen him out in years…
Sounds like you have the issue handled and a good plan in place, just lose the weight,
I was up to 230lbs and have been at 175lbs now for several years and watch what I eat and that helped me a lot but unfortunately even with all the positive changes I still need to take BP meds but in much lower doses. I was carrying a 50lb of concrete a while back and it was heavy and then I realized I was carrying that much extra weight on my body for several years 
Don't let yourself be the next victim of the silent killer. I can ride hard and not get winded while taking the BP meds.
Several classes of anti-hypertensives available. All come with some pitfalls or potential side effects.
If you’re overweight, lose weight. If you suspect sleep apnea, get tested and if positive, wear the CPAP. If you have chronic pain get that sorted out.
Your BP is borderline. So try low sodium diet, losing weight, decrease alcohol intake if it applies to you. Again, don’t ingest salt products.
As far as medications, my favorite is amlodipine for borderline BP issues. At higher doses, some people develop swelling in their ankles. Losartan is my other favorite, especially for those with a little higher BPs bc it works very well. Need to have your kidney function checked before and after starting it ideally. It’s a cousin of Lisinopril therefore cannot be taken together. Both work at the level of the kidney but are not diuretics. Speaking of, I would avoid a diuretic such as HCTZ bc you like to moto which can be a very dehydrating sport. They have their place but particularly from what you’ve said, I don’t think it will make you feel better.
Lisinopril is a great medication but it can lead to a cough or the worst thing is an anaphylactic-type reaction where your tongue and throat can swell up. I prescribe it often but I feel better about losartan.
Hope this is helpful!
Very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I had a bad experience with the cardiologist that I saw. I was referred to him from my primary Dr, since he’s in the network. I just wanted to get checked out and get some tests done… Mind you, it’s during COVID, so everyone is all masked up and following the rules, it was uncomfortable which was expected. I show up to his office and the girls get me back to a waiting room and get my vitals and do the EKG test. My blood pressure was 135/78 when she took it. Better than I thought it would be, figuring I’d have the white coat syndrome.
Im waiting for a good 30 minutes and the Dr walks in the room, doesn’t even look me in the eye, and sits down at his computer and looks over my chart. The only thing he’s said to me so far is “Hi, I’m Dr Trinn”.
He spends about 2 minutes looking at my chart, then spins around and finally acknowledges me and says” we need to get you on some BP meds and Cholesterol medicine”
I’m like “Nice to meet you too, but I’m just here to get some tests done and need you to send in the referrals” ~ he wasn’t too stoked on me and I already couldn’t stand his young / cocky attitude.
Skip to me finally getting him to send the referrals in, I get an alert in my portal that had my results from both tests. As I mentioned, I had a “2” on my report from the cat scan. This Dr proceeds to tell me that anyone that has a score of “1” or higher should be on medication. So I told him that I would get ahold of him when I need him. Haven’t been back since. lol
his bedside manners were awful and his arrogance was enough to never want to see him again. He called my Family Dr a “boutique Dr” and said that he didn’t know what he was doing and I needed to listen to him, because he was a specialist. I’ll be doing more research on the next one I see.
lol yea he sounds like a dick and I don’t blame you for not wanting to see him again. I know plenty of shitty doctors that are way smarter than me but they have zero people skills which is very important in this profession. Ironically, I hate putting people on medication but it is often necessary. Where I practice, in general if people would lose weight and stop smoking, I wouldn’t be nearly as busy and they would have much better outcomes.
The CT scan I’m assuming showed “CAD-RADS 2” meaning potentially mild nonobstructing coronary disease. It is a great rule out test when it shows no disease and you can feel fairly confident that person’s chest pain is non-cardiac. Anything other than that it becomes difficult to interpret. An exercise stress test would be the next step if you’re having symptoms.
Sorry to hear that. It must be devastating not having some booze.
Same here. Every time I try to stop taking it the headaches come back. Doc said it is essentially a migraine med. So, I am still taking it but at the smallest possible dose.
To the OP, I would just try something else. Many BP meds out there that work differently and may be better for you.
Apparently I'm sort of a BP pussy. At 5' 8" and 170 my weight has never been an issue, been going to the gym for years. One day sitting at my desk at work I noticed I was losing hearing suddenly, few minutes later I was in the bathroom throwing up. Went right in to get checked out and my BP was only around 150/80. Didn't know it at the time but both parents had BP issues and I was also taking a lot of over the counter sinus meds which I told not to do anymore. With small amounts of meds my BP has been fine since.
I’m 64 heart attack at 58 and another mild one last July. Been on metoprolol and pasugrel blood thinner. Blood pressures usually around the low to mid 130s over 80s. Started taking a shot glass with teaspoon of cayenne pepper and water once a day since a month after my second infraction. Can’t tell you proof positive it’s the cayenne but my blood pressure has dropped 15 to 20 points. Now it regularly is at low 105s to 110 over 60s. My cardiologist was amazed at my blood pressure kinda scratched his head and said whatever you doing keep doing it. Again not a doctor can’t say for sure it’s the cayenne pepper but it’s all natural and safe for anybody just a little spicy!!!!!
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