Foxborough biblical mud race

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4/12/2024 8:59am

Well shit. Dirt Wurx going to need another miracle maybe to pull this one out. Hopefully that was the brunt of the rain and they can drain it out and keep the layout normal. 

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4/12/2024 9:28am

It will be fine. The rain stopped at 10 AM.The streets are already dry and it's theres 20mph of wind so any moisture's gonna get sucked right off the ground. Drama 🙄

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4/12/2024 9:37am

Goddamn Roger Decoster has a say in weather patterns now too. 

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4/12/2024 10:08am

Awesome.....more diversity for points shake up.....

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4/12/2024 10:17am

It was raining very hard today.  I'm about 40 minutes away from the stadium and we have had a pretty dry week up until today. So hopefully they can  dry out the dirt from the rain we got today. It was pretty heavy for a while. But they have a while to get it fixed up. 

There is a local kid doing the Futures class that we have been making graphics for ,for the past couple years now. He has help from TSR/Tech Service Racing  a local Team/group of racers who have supported privateer's for many years now.   Kaplan Cycle and a handful of local companies as well as moto companies like FXR and 6D and others.

Ashton Arruda is his name. He is a really good kid, humble but confident. His entire family loves racing. His sister is a photographer that works with Paul Buckley. Ronnie Stewart has been training him. He came back from a pretty big injury a couple years ago. He is #188 on a Red and black Gasgas.      

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4/12/2024 11:21am

Yep, get the pumps in and get that standing water pumped out and it will dry up quick.

If that's it, we should be good by tomorrow evening.  Fingers crossed...  But, I also believe it's a rain or shine sport and the track is the same for everyone.

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4/12/2024 11:28am
It was raining very hard today.  I'm about 40 minutes away from the stadium and we have had a pretty dry week up until today. So...

It was raining very hard today.  I'm about 40 minutes away from the stadium and we have had a pretty dry week up until today. So hopefully they can  dry out the dirt from the rain we got today. It was pretty heavy for a while. But they have a while to get it fixed up. 

There is a local kid doing the Futures class that we have been making graphics for ,for the past couple years now. He has help from TSR/Tech Service Racing  a local Team/group of racers who have supported privateer's for many years now.   Kaplan Cycle and a handful of local companies as well as moto companies like FXR and 6D and others.

Ashton Arruda is his name. He is a really good kid, humble but confident. His entire family loves racing. His sister is a photographer that works with Paul Buckley. Ronnie Stewart has been training him. He came back from a pretty big injury a couple years ago. He is #188 on a Red and black Gasgas.      

Hope Ashton does well. Great to see your local racers always. Thanks for sharing

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4/12/2024 12:47pm

fucking perfect hahahaha

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4/12/2024 1:31pm

Get the push brooms and start pushing the puddles off. Sounds silly but it works

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4/12/2024 1:35pm

Dress warmer than you think you have too, place is a wind tunnel 

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brocster wrote:

Get the push brooms and start pushing the puddles off. Sounds silly but it works

Agree...  If they don't move that standing water in the transitions, it's going to be a rut-fest.  They can do it, but will they?

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4/12/2024 5:40pm

Looks like I'm not getting rained on tomorrow.  That's all I care about. 

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i’m starting to dig these rutted tracks. Feels like it gives less predictable racing.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

And why not also tarp off the start area? Have the tarps elevated so the water drains out of the stadium floor instead of just dumping the water on the track when you remove them?

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4/13/2024 4:04am

Outdoor race in New England in the middle of April, what could go wrong?

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4/13/2024 4:51am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

I think the main issue would be dirt .  They would use up a lot more dirt to do that and they have a limited amount of dirt. Or if they did it with the dirt they have, they would have less for jumps and berms.  It takes a lot of dirt to raise an area a few inches.  

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4/13/2024 5:10am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

I think the main issue would be dirt .  They would use up a lot more dirt to do that and they have a limited amount...

I think the main issue would be dirt .  They would use up a lot more dirt to do that and they have a limited amount of dirt. Or if they did it with the dirt they have, they would have less for jumps and berms.  It takes a lot of dirt to raise an area a few inches.  

Because  more dirt equals  less profit for Feld.

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4/13/2024 6:16am
CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

What actually makes no sense is WSX's numbeeeer ooooone fan criticizing Dirt Werx.

Laughing

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4/13/2024 7:28am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

Clear and simple....use the old engineering phrase: Cheap, Features, Durable....you can have any two.  Add in the logistical, time and contract constraints, you get the product we see.  I suspect that Dirt Werx is, indeed, an expert and quite good at building a new track every week within the given parameters.

an aside....with the wet conditions this year, I imagine the plastic budget would pay for another race team.

 

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4/13/2024 8:19am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2024 8:26am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

Bultaco wrote:
Clear and simple....use the old engineering phrase: Cheap, Features, Durable....you can have any two.  Add in the logistical, time and contract constraints, you get the product...

Clear and simple....use the old engineering phrase: Cheap, Features, Durable....you can have any two.  Add in the logistical, time and contract constraints, you get the product we see.  I suspect that Dirt Werx is, indeed, an expert and quite good at building a new track every week within the given parameters.

an aside....with the wet conditions this year, I imagine the plastic budget would pay for another race team.

 

I would have to think there are quite a few regulations on what you can do with the water also.  Can't just pump it out the door into the street.

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4/13/2024 8:50am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

Because they don't have 3 weeks to build each track?

Transitions are probably too narrow to get a skid steer in cross ways.

Maybe a good sized mini ex with an articulating bucket, and then maybe finishing off with a smooth roller bucket, but holy time restraints batman.

I am sure they have to be careful where the water goes. I bet Stadium drain boxes are rarely convenient for track builds.

And then who knows what kind of crap you have to deal with on how much silt can go into drains.

There are good reason dirtwurks builds all the tracks instead of hiring it to local dirt people, and one of them is they do know how to prep before and after weather.

It is awful easy to armchair operate.

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4/13/2024 8:59am Edited Date/Time 4/13/2024 9:01am
CPR wrote:
What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain...

What I don’t get is these guys are ‘experts’ at earth moving, but don’t build tracks that have a cross-track gradient (fall) between obstacles, to drain the water away to the outside of the track.

Instead it’s built flat and the water just sits in the transitions, as the photos illustrate. Seems that more water is draining to the start straight area than the outside of the track.
Drainage and fall are earthworks #101.
Doesn’t make sense, especially when you’re expecting rain.

Bultaco wrote:
Clear and simple....use the old engineering phrase: Cheap, Features, Durable....you can have any two.  Add in the logistical, time and contract constraints, you get the product...

Clear and simple....use the old engineering phrase: Cheap, Features, Durable....you can have any two.  Add in the logistical, time and contract constraints, you get the product we see.  I suspect that Dirt Werx is, indeed, an expert and quite good at building a new track every week within the given parameters.

an aside....with the wet conditions this year, I imagine the plastic budget would pay for another race team.

 

I would have to think there are quite a few regulations on what you can do with the water also.  Can't just pump it out the...

I would have to think there are quite a few regulations on what you can do with the water also.  Can't just pump it out the door into the street.

The fields themselves have some sort of way of dealing with the water too. 

 I heard that there was an issue with runoff after the first time they had the SX back in Foxborough.  And that the stadium people were not happy about it.Silt/dirt going someplace it should not have gone.  

With the tracks only being used for a day or 2, it is probable not really worth the extra cost to build them up higher.  Its not like a regular track that You do not want standing water on the track a day or 2 after the storm. It is not often that You get big puddles on tracks anyway. Ruts fill with water. And that would happen no matter what.  In SX , its almost only ever an issue when it is raining on the day of the race. In which case You would still have mud. 

 I would like to hear Dirtworks answer about this.  

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