Barcia/Lawrence what really happened.

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kpiper wrote:
Clearly was Hunter's fault. He was in Jett's way and slowing him down. Maybe Eli's fault too...who is he to get a holeshot??? Barcia, "Why was...

Clearly was Hunter's fault. He was in Jett's way and slowing him down. Maybe Eli's fault too...who is he to get a holeshot???

Barcia, "Why was that Jett guy riding right in front of me like that! Geez!"

Could be track design. For sure, NOT Vince's fault. Come on people. 

If it was anybody but Hunta the Donut Bois would be after his head.

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JT kind of said it on the show, the speed along with the angle just didn't really add up to a reasonable attempt to make something...

JT kind of said it on the show, the speed along with the angle just didn't really add up to a reasonable attempt to make something happen there.  The speed he ran into Jett was unreal... 

I like JB, but Im not sure what his plan was there. Jett at least seemed to fair better than Malcolm the last time JB ran into the side of someone. ( we hope )

JT has been a simp for the Lawrence camp since the beginning of outdoors last year. Barcia was clearly blocking Friese from coming up the inside...

JT has been a simp for the Lawrence camp since the beginning of outdoors last year. Barcia was clearly blocking Friese from coming up the inside

Barcia still came in too hot but it was a dumb move by Jett to turn down that hard on the first lap while being midpack

Remember how deep Kitchen took the corners on the first lap? It was smarter racing, ensuring that nobody would be able to pull of a dive bomb move. I don't think Jett is used to that happening to him very much anymore.

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Quiet obvious Barcia has to take the blame, specially when you see that angle.

What was Barcias plan? He would have lost the position to Friese just as you can see, so he can't say that was his reason. He ain't passing Jett without a T-bone even if Jett turns down later.

Thanks for uploading that pic, made it quiet clear who was without a game plan for that corner.

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TK40_FC wrote:
JT kind of said it on the show, the speed along with the angle just didn't really add up to a reasonable attempt to make something...

JT kind of said it on the show, the speed along with the angle just didn't really add up to a reasonable attempt to make something happen there.  The speed he ran into Jett was unreal... 

I like JB, but Im not sure what his plan was there. Jett at least seemed to fair better than Malcolm the last time JB ran into the side of someone. ( we hope )

JT has been a simp for the Lawrence camp since the beginning of outdoors last year. Barcia was clearly blocking Friese from coming up the inside...

JT has been a simp for the Lawrence camp since the beginning of outdoors last year. Barcia was clearly blocking Friese from coming up the inside

Barcia still came in too hot but it was a dumb move by Jett to turn down that hard on the first lap while being midpack

byke wrote:
Remember how deep Kitchen took the corners on the first lap? It was smarter racing, ensuring that nobody would be able to pull of a dive...

Remember how deep Kitchen took the corners on the first lap? It was smarter racing, ensuring that nobody would be able to pull of a dive bomb move. I don't think Jett is used to that happening to him very much anymore.

You can just draw out Barcias line to T-bone Jett if Jett holds a higher wider line.

Barcia is in no-mans land. He gives up the position to Friese since he is not going to stop mid corner on flat surface, and Vince has the right corner covered. What is Barcias plan? To go to the berm in the top left corner from the picture and turn there? Wouldn't be any better for Jett, Barcia is still coming at a T-bone angle.

Just poor race craft by Barcia and unfortunately it tends to have horrible outcomes.

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Barcia was coming in so hot i seriously doubt he stops in time for the corner. Jett is most likely still being hit even if he railed the berm. Just look at where Barcia is heading towards in the corner and envision Jett continues on around the top.
 

People comparing this to the Dungey/Stew incident im sorry but its nothing a like. Dungey cased a triple into the corner and his rear wheel kicked up meaning he couldnt stop in time. Barcia flat out comes in 2x faster than you would normally take that turn off a flat straight.

The common denominator here is Barcia has done this many a time and he has his fair share of T-bones. Just look at what he did to Malcolm which was disgusting. Hes a dangerous rider and a liability out there.

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FMD, I finally get to watch the racing highlights and anyone who does not have the fanboy glasses on can see that it was a flat out T/Bone. 

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wix wrote:

Supercross will be a better sport when Justin Barcia retires. 

Magoofan wrote:
Why am I not shocked this comes from another Aussie....   (Not all you Aussies are like this....but man, there sure are a good number who...

Why am I not shocked this comes from another Aussie....

 

(Not all you Aussies are like this....but man, there sure are a good number who are)


But still, it's not as stupid as people blaming Friese for this.

Unfortunate racing incident....equal blame on Bam and Jett.....that's all this was.

I also see it as an (as you say) unfortunate race incident.

But if the exact same situation happened and it was Hunter Lawrence t-boning Eli Tomac you would be burning this place to the ground with your tirades.

You're a hypocrite.

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I also see it as an (as you say) unfortunate race incident. But if the exact same situation happened and it was Hunter Lawrence t-boning Eli...

I also see it as an (as you say) unfortunate race incident.

But if the exact same situation happened and it was Hunter Lawrence t-boning Eli Tomac you would be burning this place to the ground with your tirades.

You're a hypocrite.

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3/31/2024 5:34pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2024 5:41pm

If Barcia had backed off, and let Friese go, it woulda been Friese making this hit on him most likely.  

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JHForman wrote:

If Barcia had backed off, and let Friese go, it woulda been Friese making this hit on him most likely.  

I totally agree.  

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I've got a genuine question for everyone? Who's MORE at fault? The guy in front who can't see behind him? Or the person following who CAN see whats happening infront of him??

So many are blaming Jett for taking a risky line so early in the race? The exact same can be said for Barcia? Providing the lead rider isn't intentionally doing dangerous stuff like cross jumping, brake checking, swerving etc they aren't responsible for the happens behind them? Right?? The rider behind on the other hand has the advantage is being able to see what's happening infront of himself and should ride accordingly.

I stand by my initial thought of 90%+ Barcia fault. Do I think he did it on purpose? No. But he is responsible for it.

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4/2/2024 7:27am Edited Date/Time 4/2/2024 7:27am

IMO

It's 100% a Barcia move, he's been doing this since the beginning of his pro career, and maybe before, I didn't follow him prior. 

His brain disconnects after the gate drop and then after an incident he wakes up and raises his hand.  One could make a compilation video of Barcia mishaps, all equally stupid.  

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It was simply two guys making very aggressive moves in traffic on lap 1. Justin gets jumped all over because of his history and maybe rightly so. It was a racing deal end of story.

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It was simply two guys making very aggressive moves in traffic on lap 1. Justin gets jumped all over because of his history and maybe rightly...

It was simply two guys making very aggressive moves in traffic on lap 1. Justin gets jumped all over because of his history and maybe rightly so. It was a racing deal end of story.

Yep.

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MxAddic wrote:
Most folks placed all of the blame on Stew here. My how times change.    

Most folks placed all of the blame on Stew here. My how times change.

 

 

Stewart cut down before the apex of the corner. Thats the biggest difference between Jett and Stewarts moves. 

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MxAddic wrote:
Most folks placed all of the blame on Stew here. My how times change.    

Most folks placed all of the blame on Stew here. My how times change.

 

 

Mit12 wrote:

Stewart cut down before the apex of the corner. Thats the biggest difference between Jett and Stewarts moves. 

Jett cut down WAY earlier than Stewart...

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There needs to be a wider point of exit on these 180-degree turns so that there's no two-way traffic going on. Make them more like two 90s by widening the tuff blocks on the corner exit inside, so riders cannot turn down quite as sharply or something. As it is, the turn is like it is designed for head-on collisions. 

 

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