Tomac can't go out like this

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3/19/2024 4:47pm Edited Date/Time 3/19/2024 4:53pm

After reviewing the thread, on a more serious note, he must listen DV (and hire him for a week or a couple months). That bike as is is not on par in term of set up, at that level that makes a big difference. Why do they let him go with such a soft fork on a soft and rutty track? Just braking that bike is diving, it looks like a 92 cbr... that is way too much compared to the green beast mode. Right now he doesnt look like himself, the talent is not gone. Hey, it is Tomac !

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Eli's going to do what's best for him.  I don't believe he knows whether he wants to race outdoors, or SX 2025.

He said he'll let us know when he's done.  I hope he takes the SX championship this year, then keeps racing.

 

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3/19/2024 5:17pm

My money is on him retiring after SX this season. He was going to retire  after SX last year.

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My money is on him retiring after SX this season. He was going to retire  after SX last year.

No, he was going to ride the Nationals last year.

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ML512 wrote:
As of now, nothing. He was asked by Lewis on press day and he stated there's been no talks about it yet. He was very serious...

As of now, nothing. He was asked by Lewis on press day and he stated there's been no talks about it yet. He was very serious when he answered this.

Tomac is probably wanting to stay fully focused on getting at least a win in SX and not even thinking about the Nationals at this time. But he has to let Star know pretty soon.

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kpiper wrote:

Tomac missed Southwick last year. He needs to ride it this year.

davistld01 wrote:

Why?

Ha, ha...ok, well, it's his favorite track and he hauls ass there...what more do you need?

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3/19/2024 5:35pm

Part of me wants to see him do MX, the other part doesn't. Hasn't it been stated that the Yamaha is better suited for SX ? If so, it would make his task of being competitive outdoors even tougher. Is it worth all the effort / hassle ? Only he can answer, but the way things are going, my money is on no MX.

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3/19/2024 5:45pm Edited Date/Time 3/19/2024 5:51pm

I guess it comes down to whether or not Eli Tomac still loves to compete.  If he lines up at the Fox raceway gate, I think the crowd is going to go nuts, because he and a few others are going to the favorites to challenge Jett Lawrence.   If in 2025 Jorge Prado comes to America to race in the 2025 AMA Supercross, I imagine he's also going to compete in the MX Nationals, which is going to be very interesting to see how he stacks up to Jett, anyone to step up and make things interesting outdoors.  Maybe Jeffrey Herlings and he could make some serious coin while over here. 

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3/19/2024 6:13pm
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The guy Tomac did split wins with in 2022 nationals (and won the championship with just 7 points) Sexton that is, in 2023 got NO wins...

The guy Tomac did split wins with in 2022 nationals (and won the championship with just 7 points) Sexton that is, in 2023 got NO wins and did not even lead ONE single lap (on the familliar Honda he rode in 22)… so… no, Eli wont do the nats in 2024.

No humiliation coming. Game over.

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So with that logic should Jason Anderson quit too? Roczen should quit for sure (Jett spanked him last year)...and Webb should forget about racing outdoors again...

So with that logic should Jason Anderson quit too? Roczen should quit for sure (Jett spanked him last year)...and Webb should forget about racing outdoors again since he can't beat Jett either. Who else should stop racing because they can't beat Jett?

Chase too? Jett didn't let him lead a single lap last year. Pretty humiliating.  

Roczen is the happiest he's been in years, only racing AMA Supercross and WSX.

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He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross...

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross might be an opportunity for him to retire knowing he gave JL a battle to the finish.  We've never seen the two of them race each other at the AMA Nationals aboard 450's.  I think after the Supercross series and by the first National, he'd have rode himself back into shape and be ready for a fight. 

Agree with you 100%. If Eli still has a desire to show he can run with Jett he must do the Nationals. It will be his best hope. Skipping the outdoors and hoping to beat him in 2025 SX is not a feasible plan.

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3/19/2024 6:24pm

He said a few weeks ago that he doesn't like when people keep asking him about retirement, he will tell us when he's done. I took that statement as he will continue racing a little while longer. 

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3/19/2024 6:41pm

eli still recovering from that achilles I say.....won't be surprised if he does a partial outdoor season at selected events....(ala farewell tour!!)

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Sadly, as they say, time is undefeated. 
 

Maybe the best move here is to just enjoy his racing & let’s all stop putting so much pressure on him to be in his prime again. 

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3/19/2024 8:07pm

Unreal we're talking about the possible end of Eli's career. The never ending cycle of watching these guys debut, race, and retire flies by. When Jett retires I'm going to be old as fuck

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3/19/2024 9:26pm
Unreal we're talking about the possible end of Eli's career. The never ending cycle of watching these guys debut, race, and retire flies by. When Jett...

Unreal we're talking about the possible end of Eli's career. The never ending cycle of watching these guys debut, race, and retire flies by. When Jett retires I'm going to be old as fuck

Damn this just hit me too. 

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Can’t go out like this? Like what? Four 450 MX championships. Two 450 Supercross championships second on the all-time Supercross win list, plus much more. No...

Can’t go out like this? Like what? Four 450 MX championships. Two 450 Supercross championships second on the all-time Supercross win list, plus much more. No matter when he goes out, he’ll be going out like that. 

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross...

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross might be an opportunity for him to retire knowing he gave JL a battle to the finish.  We've never seen the two of them race each other at the AMA Nationals aboard 450's.  I think after the Supercross series and by the first National, he'd have rode himself back into shape and be ready for a fight. 

Jet Lawrence is insignificant in the legacy of Eli Tomac. Eli has nothing to prove against Jett. Eli is clearly not his old self this year. He has proven all he needs to prove.

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3/20/2024 5:59am Edited Date/Time 3/20/2024 6:00am
Can’t go out like this? Like what? Four 450 MX championships. Two 450 Supercross championships second on the all-time Supercross win list, plus much more. No...

Can’t go out like this? Like what? Four 450 MX championships. Two 450 Supercross championships second on the all-time Supercross win list, plus much more. No matter when he goes out, he’ll be going out like that. 

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross...

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross might be an opportunity for him to retire knowing he gave JL a battle to the finish.  We've never seen the two of them race each other at the AMA Nationals aboard 450's.  I think after the Supercross series and by the first National, he'd have rode himself back into shape and be ready for a fight. 

Jet Lawrence is insignificant in the legacy of Eli Tomac. Eli has nothing to prove against Jett. Eli is clearly not his old self this year...

Jet Lawrence is insignificant in the legacy of Eli Tomac. Eli has nothing to prove against Jett. Eli is clearly not his old self this year. He has proven all he needs to prove.

Well I'd argue that Jett is to Eli, that RC was to McGrath and James was to RC, they're the riders that made great legends in SX and MX realize that it's probably time to retire, so Jett is significant in the legacy of Eli Tomac, because he's as talented, faster and also more willing to take the risks to win. Let's just say Jett is more Hungry like RC and Stewart once were. 

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3/20/2024 9:24am Edited Date/Time 3/20/2024 9:30am
kpiper wrote:

Tomac missed Southwick last year. He needs to ride it this year.

davistld01 wrote:

Why?

Eli Tomac owes us nothing, nada, zilch! He’s won his championships and will always be considered a phenomenal rider and international champion. I personally think he came back not 100% healthy…but that he did come back & is riding at the level that he is, is proof of his drive & athleticism! 
 

if he decides to walk away at the end of the 2024’s SX season…even without a single win, he’s done enough. Why risk another injury?

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Can’t go out like this? Like what? Four 450 MX championships. Two 450 Supercross championships second on the all-time Supercross win list, plus much more. No...

Can’t go out like this? Like what? Four 450 MX championships. Two 450 Supercross championships second on the all-time Supercross win list, plus much more. No matter when he goes out, he’ll be going out like that. 

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross...

He's 36 points behind Jett and 5th place in the standings, maybe this Beast mode Eli Tomac is truly gone, but I think AMA National Motocross might be an opportunity for him to retire knowing he gave JL a battle to the finish.  We've never seen the two of them race each other at the AMA Nationals aboard 450's.  I think after the Supercross series and by the first National, he'd have rode himself back into shape and be ready for a fight. 

Jet Lawrence is insignificant in the legacy of Eli Tomac. Eli has nothing to prove against Jett. Eli is clearly not his old self this year...

Jet Lawrence is insignificant in the legacy of Eli Tomac. Eli has nothing to prove against Jett. Eli is clearly not his old self this year. He has proven all he needs to prove.

Unfortunately it is Jett that will cause Eli to retire.

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3/20/2024 9:44am
jjavaman wrote:

Unfortunately it is Jett that will cause Eli to retire.

So Jett is going to tell Coker when Eli is done? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

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jjavaman wrote:

Unfortunately it is Jett that will cause Eli to retire.

HonDawg17 wrote:

So Jett is going to tell Coker when Eli is done? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Ummm, that's not what he said, or meant.

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jjavaman wrote:

Unfortunately it is Jett that will cause Eli to retire.

HonDawg17 wrote:

So Jett is going to tell Coker when Eli is done? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Says the Eli nut hugger😂 I don’t sound half as stupid as you with the constant excuses, Eli has been an elite rider for 12+ years, it’s coming to an end and you just can’t accept it. 

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It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably a difficult choice for him last year - retire without the one last title or make one last effort (probably beyond what he originally planned).

Right now his title hopes are effectively zero.  I think that if he finished a battling second to Jett he might feel justified that he beat the guys he should have beaten last year and it would be a fitting passing of the baton.  That’s not going to be the case; he’s sitting fifth behind guys that last year he was comfortably ahead of.

In the long run his legacy isn’t going to be judged by how he finishes this year.

Is he the type of guy who will continue on even though he won’t realistically be a title contender any more?

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3/20/2024 10:53am Edited Date/Time 3/20/2024 10:54am

IMO He will race a couple nationals for the points and the playoffs. Chasing a good playoff bonus $$$$

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ando wrote:
It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably...

It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably a difficult choice for him last year - retire without the one last title or make one last effort (probably beyond what he originally planned).

Right now his title hopes are effectively zero.  I think that if he finished a battling second to Jett he might feel justified that he beat the guys he should have beaten last year and it would be a fitting passing of the baton.  That’s not going to be the case; he’s sitting fifth behind guys that last year he was comfortably ahead of.

In the long run his legacy isn’t going to be judged by how he finishes this year.

Is he the type of guy who will continue on even though he won’t realistically be a title contender any more?

 Eli won’t drone around qualifying from lcq’s, unlike reed he has nothing to prove.

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ando wrote:
It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably...

It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably a difficult choice for him last year - retire without the one last title or make one last effort (probably beyond what he originally planned).

Right now his title hopes are effectively zero.  I think that if he finished a battling second to Jett he might feel justified that he beat the guys he should have beaten last year and it would be a fitting passing of the baton.  That’s not going to be the case; he’s sitting fifth behind guys that last year he was comfortably ahead of.

In the long run his legacy isn’t going to be judged by how he finishes this year.

Is he the type of guy who will continue on even though he won’t realistically be a title contender any more?

jjavaman wrote:

 Eli won’t drone around qualifying from lcq’s, unlike reed he has nothing to prove.

What did Reed have to prove?

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ando wrote:
It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably...

It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably a difficult choice for him last year - retire without the one last title or make one last effort (probably beyond what he originally planned).

Right now his title hopes are effectively zero.  I think that if he finished a battling second to Jett he might feel justified that he beat the guys he should have beaten last year and it would be a fitting passing of the baton.  That’s not going to be the case; he’s sitting fifth behind guys that last year he was comfortably ahead of.

In the long run his legacy isn’t going to be judged by how he finishes this year.

Is he the type of guy who will continue on even though he won’t realistically be a title contender any more?

jjavaman wrote:

 Eli won’t drone around qualifying from lcq’s, unlike reed he has nothing to prove.

ando wrote:

What did Reed have to prove?

He was after the most starts record which he got

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3/20/2024 11:47am
ando wrote:
It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably...

It seems the angst around Eli is that an unfortunate and unusual injury robbed him of a chance to go out on top.  It was probably a difficult choice for him last year - retire without the one last title or make one last effort (probably beyond what he originally planned).

Right now his title hopes are effectively zero.  I think that if he finished a battling second to Jett he might feel justified that he beat the guys he should have beaten last year and it would be a fitting passing of the baton.  That’s not going to be the case; he’s sitting fifth behind guys that last year he was comfortably ahead of.

In the long run his legacy isn’t going to be judged by how he finishes this year.

Is he the type of guy who will continue on even though he won’t realistically be a title contender any more?

Passing the baton? Jett came and took it...

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3/20/2024 11:48am
Unreal we're talking about the possible end of Eli's career. The never ending cycle of watching these guys debut, race, and retire flies by. When Jett...

Unreal we're talking about the possible end of Eli's career. The never ending cycle of watching these guys debut, race, and retire flies by. When Jett retires I'm going to be old as fuck

Dam I remember Eli's debut winning the 250 class at Hangtown (forget the year) but time flies. Feels like yesterday. 

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lumpy790 wrote:

IMO He will race a couple nationals for the points and the playoffs. Chasing a good playoff bonus $$$$

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner!

Smart money sez that he races enough nats to make it into the play offs. That is my take.

Now if I was a betting man, I would not be surprised to hear he pulls the plug after SX. After all he really does not need the money!

On a slightly different subject, I have picked Eli every time to place high on my fantasy team. Its been pretty disappointing, so far.  I just do not know If I can continue...

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