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It's the tone of all the "I told you so's." Not you but some seem to revel in the fact he crashed and again because it makes them right about him. Also I've heard this a couple time but he didn't look sketchy at all to me Saturday. Definitely didn't look like he was pushing. ML said the same thing on Pulp last night
Same thing I was going to say. If nine previous season-ending crashes haven't deterred him, why would he stop now?
YouTube vid posted last night said he may retire now due to this injury.
I watched all of the motos again last night, and naturally you pay close attention to the section he crashed. There was a LOT of folks that were stumbling coming up short or long in the exact same spot Forkner did, it was obviously a massively technical section. What I took away after watching it all again, every rider that choked in that spot, checked up and doubled the next jump, both in the 250s and 450s and went on with their night. There was two notable crashes there, Forkner and Swoll, and Swoll's crash was due to tangling with another rider at the entry.
Hopefully this becomes another learning moment, and we get to see him give it a go again. He was a couple of races in and had the red plate. Injuries he will recover from, hard to step away when you had the red plate on your bike when you crashed.
I understand it was a split-second decision, and as another post here mentioned DVs analysis showing Forkner was committed no matter what, but from my seat, and seeing a lot of other riders realize the same mistake and check-up, Forkner made a really bad decision. This year he has seemed so different.. Riding smooth, more mature, bike looked good, I thought he had it this year
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Nah, he will be back. Maybe not for SX but he will be back for outdoors
matter of time before the government comes in and shuts down this whole circus, clearly human beings werent designed to get ejected to concrete like that.
if austin can't do it safely, no one really can. some get luckier than others and go on for a while.
sad look for society when a circus like this passes for entertainment, when we all know 80% of the fans in arlington just showed up hoping to see a crash. have to wonder just how many people in that arena enjoyed seeing him down.
I bet you get invited to a lot of parties
That is the type of crash that even if you don't like the guy it's a gut check and you pull back.
Yet, here we are...
We have multiple sports where the main objective is simply punching each other in the head and/or injuring the other party. The gov doesn't give a shit about SX, thankfully
Been going on since the Roman's. There were no empty seats in the colluseum to watch this spectacle...
"Damnatio ad bestias (Latin for "condemnation to beasts") was a form of Roman capital punishment where the condemned person was killed by wild animals, usually lions or other big cats."
Can we do this with looters 🤔
What YouTube video? He posted it or some random Joe.
Random channel.
something like that. back in those days you didn't have social media to harass and belittle the guy for three weeks after he made a slight mistake and got mauled.
I posted a video of a dual sport rider who had his deploy. You can still ride, and I imagine that They could also make a quick way to deflate it.
They are having issues with the sensors working for Moto. They keep getting false crash detections. That was the only reason I was saying that maybe a manually operated one would be an option until they get the sensors to work. And it would be up to the rider and spotter for the threshold of when to deploy or not. If that would make it a viable option to use sooner and possible help stop injuries ,than why not?
When if goes off, You can still ride, it might make it harder to move around in while inflated. But the types of racing they are using it in now are the type that a crash ends Your day or will take a good amount of time to get back going from. For a moto specific device they could add on a quick deflate system. They are only good for a single crash anyway. I'm not sure if there is a replaceable part or if the entire thing needs to be replaced. There have been times they go off on people without crashing . It looks like wearing a couple really thick winter jackets. The image below is with it inflated. And than some examples of the other models they have. Its not like one of those big bubbles that Youtubers get inside and have their buddies hit them with cars.
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I really hope he is able to come back and get on a good streak. I can not imagine what that must feel like to have so much skill, and get so close to doing what so many can only dream of. He has already done a lot of things that very few are able to do. I was hoping that this would be a good year for him.
After he avoided the first turn disaster of the first round. I thought he had finally got some luck on his side. As bad as the injuries are, he got lucky with them not being worse. He was able to kinda walk off the track. And amazingly not have a head injury. I hope he is able to come back out for outdoors. I'll be rooting for him.
aren't you a ray of fucking sunshine....
Either retirement or this for Forkner..
Give it a fucking rest, it's played out.
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It's a good idea in theory. But mx /sx is a different beast.
It would need to only deploy in bigger crashes.
How many small crashes do riders have that don't result in injury.
And look at the protection area.
When a rider does crash what do they injure? Hands, wrists, concussions, feet, ankles, legs,
It would help with shoulder injuries which is a highly injured area. But torso injuries although can be some of the most severe injurys are the least common.
Lots of things Human Beings weren't designed for, like Scuba Diving, Flying on Airplanes, driving a car faster than you can run, going into Outer Space, Sky Diving and a host of other activities that people die from every year.
Exactly why they are still working on it..... And why they do not have a production off road version. because of how difficult it is to get it to sense a crash. Just like how a helmet only protects Your head, and like every piece of gear its not going to help in every crash. Its meant to work together with other gear.
My only contribution to the concept was perhaps they use a spotter to set it off until they get the sensors to work. It would at that point be up to the rider to trust the spoter and decide. It's probable not worth the time and investment for the few types of crashes that would happen slow enough that a spotter could react, that would also be the type that the airbags would help with.
I imagine that they have different shaped , different coverage,etc. on the prototype MX versions. Like how the street, road race and Rally versions are all different.
Alpinestars must think that it will do something, otherwise they would have just said they are not even considering an off road version.
I know its not going to help in every crash. It might not have made a difference in Forkners crash. I wonder if the way he was bent up, was what caused his vertebrae injuries. That was more of my point. That padding on the concrete may not be a big help , if the injury is coming more from the bending part of the impact than what was doing the impacting.
Thanks for your concern. He’ll more than likely do what he thinks is best for him and his career. Do you ride?
I would be getting eye surgery asap if I was him. I don’t really understand why it’s not on the to-do list of every person who wears contacts or glasses. And even more so if you are someone who enjoys sport a lot or an athlete.
The sensor issue is going to be a big problem for mx, but the other issue is if guys were interested in more protection, there's already body armor they could wear now that isn't much more bulky than these. Guys refuse to wear it.
Yah the top pro guys might not want to wear them no matter what. But if they are able to get the sensor issue figured out it might make some even more protective options possible. I'm glad that there are efforts being made to make more protective , protective gear. And everything is not all heading towards the most minimal versions possible.
I wonder what the MX version looks like. How different it is from the Dakar/Off road version they have.
I would think that if and when the sensor thing gets figured out it could be used in some sort of warning system that would alert other riders of a crash in the next corner or blind jump , could alert medics sooner and do a lot of things even if its just the sensors being used without the bag system.
They should make goggle lenses where the WHOLE lens is magnified like glass/contacts.
They are prescription lenses out there, I just don't know who makes them When I use my goggles, I have over the glasses ones.
Risk and $$$ are 2 reasons. It also doesn't last forever and it's not recommended to do it twice, although I don't know if the guidance on that has changed. I had mine done (Lasik) at 25, and by 35 or so I was back to contacts/glasses. Your body keeps aging and changing so it's somewhat inevitable. While it worked, it was sure life changing and made a huge difference in all the sports I did.
Possibly your comment was sarcasm but these have been around for many years.
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It's not the actual crash. It's got to do with the wheelbarrow full of cash that he prefers to push around on concrete when he bombs whomever it is doing pre-show stuff. Pay contention boy! You'll learn a learning lesson....
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