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Not knocking the electric power by any stretch..... But rolling chassis wise, this is what the YZinger should have morphed into 25 years ago. I get that Yamaha milked the little sucker for generations making God knows how much, but that chassis with the PW engine would be cool. Even still, hopefully one day, I'll have a grandkid I can spoil.....
We started out first b day with a Strider with the sea saw attached to it. Got her to like sitting on it and used to it. Then at like 18 months she was scooting around with our help so for her second b day I got the stacyc and she’s been back and forth between both bikes. Her third b day is next month and I’m either gonna find a used PW or get this ktm/husky. She zips on the Strider with her feet up and can ride the stacyc on the lowest power mode. She’s not ready for the pw/E2 yet but she will be by this summer. I’m a little over ambitious but she loves riding on my bike with me and riding hers now. The gas doesn’t scare her or the noise only thing I worry about is her burning herself on the pw but we’ve been over not to touch hot things haha.
In the US, an E5 is only about 1,000 more than a 50sx and that cost is easily covered in the first year of gas maintenance
That’s awesome and I could do all day but like the stark varg here in Australia at between $18 & $19.5 k these electric bikes are seriously expensive compared to the old ICE bikes.
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I had a Stacyc for my grandson, but when Kawasaki came out with the Electrode I got him one of those. Very cool bike. He loves it and can ride it in his neghborhood. This new KTM may be a perfect next step for him.
I'll definitely get my son one when he's big enough (just turned 2). He can't even ride the Stacyc 12 yet. The PW is nostalgic but this is the ticket when you can ride anywhere anytime. The different modes and tether are a nice touch as well.
My son started on the PW and now his daughter has one. Plenty of Pas at the GNC at Oak Hill this weekend.
Pw 50 is not dead! My 4 year old is having a blast on it. I’ve had my 2 previous kids learn and love it. I have the Pw 80 as well
A little pricey
1982'ish me thinks. Indian Dunes Friday night practice. I am looking for one for my granddaughter to ride here soon...
All 3 of my boys learned on a PW.
I will not miss that fuggin float needle valve. What a pain in the ass.
if I had young ones again, they’d be on electric, no doubt.
honestly i give a Sh**!
Wasn’t Yamaha working on its own version of this sometime ago? 🤔
I wish we held onto this thing. I remember saving up all the pennies and nickels I had and whenever I would get a little more pocket change I would ask my parents if I had enough for one lol.
Yes they released it in Antarctica only though.
Yeah my kid just turned 3, he'll definitely be on a PW50. What's more American than mixing gas/oil and riding a 2 stroke?
I see the benefits of the SX E2, but there is absolutely no way the PW is dead. Its just one of those bikes that will be around forever, like the Z50. Families and generations will ride them and pass them around. You can sell them for almost what you paid, low maintenance, and tough as nails.
Pit Row
Piss poor business decision on their part.
The Z50 is gone tho?
I will buy my kids a PW50 any and every day!!
In name only.
The z50 engine lives on as a crf50.
i don’t wish the death of the pw50, but it’s choke hold on the 4yr old market is over. Prices need to come down both used and new. I’ve got a coworker that went into a local dealer to him and the out the door price they wanted was @2600. A-hole dealership, but the community lost a future family because of that. The guy bought his kids a used Zuki quad instead.
Wow, I had a old-school joke typed out, but not sure of the temperature around here.....
Moving on.
Once you’ve had a kid on a gas bike and then switched them to an electric bike. You will never want ICE bikes for them again. Dad/son life gets to focus on the fun parts of riding and building memories. Not dealing with all the mechanical and maintenance issues of riding ICE and losing time elsewhere because of it. My son did three seasons on his sx-e5 ktm and all we ever did was lube the chain, grease bearings, and tires. To me it’s about smiles per hour, similar to when people buy a cheap Chinese bike versus a nice jap or Austrian bike for their kid. The kid and dad just don’t have as much fun.
I don't get the argument of electric = no mechanical issues. We have a Stacyc and fuses blow, tires go flat, chain comes off, brake arm loses a bolt, plastic cover threads strip, and more. So guardians will still have to do maintenance on Jr's bike. Is electric a good choice for some sure, but it's not because no work is ever required.
That's the beauty of these hub motor bikes, there's no chain and chain guard. Hydraulic brakes may require more maintenance than a cable drum or disc, or not. For a 4-6 year old kid a standard preride check of tire pressure, safe braking and suspension function and a visual inspection of fasteners is an appropriate mechanical introduction, taking chain adjustment out of that is fine, which is why the pw has a shaft drive.
My son loved tinkering with the tools and helping out with the maintenance on his bike, and fortunately kept it up and now can do most of the work on his own cars. When it comes to brake jobs, oil changes, suspension work, plugs etc. he is definitely hands on.
The way some of these electric enthusiasts talk, you would think the PW50 had a highly stressed racing engine that does 15000rpm and needs to be rebuilt regularly.
The reality is the most regular maintenance a PW50 will need is cleaning every time you ride, just like an electric bike (or are these electric bikes self cleaning?)
I know people who have had PW50s for 20 years, and the bike has been passed around to various friends & relatives for the kids to learn on.
These bikes have never had to have the engine touched, just the odd spark plug & filter.
Kids won't wait hours for a battery to charge, they want that 1 minute recharge you get from a fuel can
The venerable PDub will probably be around for some time to come, but it is long past time that somebody came up with a decent competitor. Honestly, this looks like a fantastic option.
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